The best college football player to ever wear.........

#28
#28
(hatvol96 @ Jun 29 said:
Two completely different issues. The issue about Overrrated was related to his heart in comparison to Albert Haynesworth. You have heart or you don't. It doesn't matter if it's in NFL or College. It just took an NFL check for Overrated's goldbrick streak to take over. The Wuerffel/Manning debate was purely about their collegiate numbers and whether or not they were the best to wear them.
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I don't agree, but that's ok. If you either have heart or you don't, then he had it because he showed it at UT.
 
#31
#31
(voldaddy77 @ Jun 29 said:
Id say It would be between Manning, and uh......no-one.
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Beban, Plunkett, and Weinke-Heisman winners.
Manning-Not a Heisman winner.
 
#32
#32
(hatvol96 @ Jun 29 said:
Beban, Plunkett, and Weinke-Heisman winners.
Manning-Not a Heisman winner.
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The Heisman is a media award and popularity contest. If you want to use championships as a judge, that's one thing, but the heisman?
 
#33
#33
(vol_freak @ Jun 29 said:
The Heisman is a media award and popularity contest. If you want to use championships as a judge, that's one thing, but the heisman?
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Just making an observation.
 
#42
#42
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#43
#43
"The Heisman is a media award and popularity contest. If you want to use championships as a judge, that's one thing, but the heisman?"

Until there is a playoff, the national championship will also continue to be a popularity contest among voters who never played the game.
 
#44
#44
(brg72 @ Jun 29 said:
"The Heisman is a media award and popularity contest. If you want to use championships as a judge, that's one thing, but the heisman?"

Until there is a playoff, the national championship will also continue to be a popularity contest among voters who never played the game.
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that's a good point.
 
#45
#45
(brg72 @ Jun 29 said:
"The Heisman is a media award and popularity contest. If you want to use championships as a judge, that's one thing, but the heisman?"

Until there is a playoff, the national championship will also continue to be a popularity contest among voters who never played the game.
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None of the coaches ever played? That's strange.
 
#46
#46
As far as media bias goes, there are more people living in Texas and California than all states combined representing the SEC.
 
#47
#47
....among voters who never played the game"


Did i say coaches did not vote? You love to spin things. Here are the 2005 AP voters.

Who votes in the 2005 AP College Football Poll?
Here's the complete list of Associated Press (AP) college football poll votors for 2005:

Paul Arnett, Honolulu Star-Buletin
Steve Batterson, Quad City (Iowa) Times
Beau Bishop, WCTV-TV, Tallahassee, Fla.
John Blanchette, The Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Wash.
Jack Bogaczyk, Charleston (W.Va.) Daily Mail
Kirk Bohls, Austin (Texas) American Statesman
Rick Bozich, The Courier-Journal, Louisville, Ky.
B.G. Brooks, Rocky Mountain News, Denver
Jimmy Burch, Fort Worth (Texas) Star-Telegram
Jim Carty, The Ann Arbor (Mich.) News
Barker Davis, The Washington Times
Mike DiRocco, Florida Times Union
Joseph Duarte, Houston Chronicle
Gregg Ellis, Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal, Tupelo, Miss.
Aaron Fentress, The Oregonian, Portland
Ray Fittipaldo, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Chris Fowler, ESPN
Joe Giglio, The News & Observer, Raleigh, N.C.
Joey Goodman, The Lawton (Okla.) Constitution
Herb Gould, Chicago Sun-Times
Jeff Gravely, WRAL-TV, Raleigh, N.C.
Tim Griffin, San Antonio Express-News
Bob Hammond, Laramie (Wyo.) Boomerang
Todd Harmonson, The Orange County Register, Santa Ana, Calif.
Doug Harris, Dayton (Ohio) Daily News
Shawn Harrison, Logan (Utah) Herald Tribune
Joseph Hawk, Las Vegas Review-Journal
Kirk Herbstreit, WBNS-AM Columbus, Ohio & ESPN
Bob Holt, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Little Rock
Jimmy Hyams, WNML AM-FM, Knoxville, Tenn.
Craig James, ABC
Rich Kaipust, Omaha (Neb.) World-Record
Aditi Kinkhabwala, The Record, Bergen County, N.J.
George Lehner, WTVN-AM, Columbus, Ohio
Iliana Limon, Albuquerque (N.M.) Journal
Stewart Mandel, SI.com
Dan McDonald, Lafayette (La.) Advertiser
Susan Miller Degnan, Miami Herald
John Moredich, Tucson (Ariz.) Citizen
Tom Mulhern, Wisconsin State Journal, Madison
John Niyo, Detroit News
Neill Ostrout, Connecticut Post, Bridgeport
Jeff Parson, Wichita (Kan.) Eagle
David Paschall, Chattanooga (Tenn.) Times Free Press
Joe Person, The State, Columbia, S.C.
Michael Pointer, The Indianapolis Star
Mike Prater, The Idaho Statesman, Boise
Scott Rabalais, The Advocate, Baton Rouge, La.
Mike Radano, Courier-Post, Cherry Hill, N.J.
Dave Rahme, The Post-Standard, Syracuse, N.Y.
Ray Ratto, San Francisco Chronicle
Doug Segrest, The Birmingham (Ala.) News
John Shipley, St. Paul (Minn.) Pioneer Press
Jay Tate, Montgomery (Ala.) Advertiser
John Tautges, Westwood One Radio
David Teel, Daily Press, Newport News, Va.
Jimmy Tramel, Tulsa (Okla.) World
Mark Tupper, Decatur (Ill.) Herald & Review Bee
Ken Tysiac, Charlotte (N.C.) Observer
Adan Van Brimmer, Savannah (Ga.) Morning News-Augusta
Mike Vega, The Boston Globe
Graham Watson, St. Louis Post-Dispatch
Jon Wilner, San Jose (Calif.) Mercury News
Doug Wilson, Bloomington (Ind.) Herald-Times
Scott Wolf, Los Angeles Daily News



 
#48
#48
(brg72 @ Jun 29 said:
....among voters who never played the game"
Did i say coaches did not vote? You love to spin things. Here are the 2005 AP voters.

Who votes in the 2005 AP College Football Poll?
Here's the complete list of Associated Press (AP) college football poll votors for 2005:

Paul Arnett, Honolulu Star-Buletin
Steve Batterson, Quad City (Iowa) Times
Beau Bishop, WCTV-TV, Tallahassee, Fla.
John Blanchette, The Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Wash.
Jack Bogaczyk, Charleston (W.Va.) Daily Mail
Kirk Bohls, Austin (Texas) American Statesman
Rick Bozich, The Courier-Journal, Louisville, Ky.
B.G. Brooks, Rocky Mountain News, Denver
Jimmy Burch, Fort Worth (Texas) Star-Telegram
Jim Carty, The Ann Arbor (Mich.) News
Barker Davis, The Washington Times
Mike DiRocco, Florida Times Union
Joseph Duarte, Houston Chronicle
Gregg Ellis, Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal, Tupelo, Miss.
Aaron Fentress, The Oregonian, Portland
Ray Fittipaldo, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Chris Fowler, ESPN
Joe Giglio, The News & Observer, Raleigh, N.C.
Joey Goodman, The Lawton (Okla.) Constitution
Herb Gould, Chicago Sun-Times
Jeff Gravely, WRAL-TV, Raleigh, N.C.
Tim Griffin, San Antonio Express-News
Bob Hammond, Laramie (Wyo.) Boomerang
Todd Harmonson, The Orange County Register, Santa Ana, Calif.
Doug Harris, Dayton (Ohio) Daily News
Shawn Harrison, Logan (Utah) Herald Tribune
Joseph Hawk, Las Vegas Review-Journal
Kirk Herbstreit, WBNS-AM Columbus, Ohio & ESPN
Bob Holt, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Little Rock
Jimmy Hyams, WNML AM-FM, Knoxville, Tenn.
Craig James, ABC
Rich Kaipust, Omaha (Neb.) World-Record
Aditi Kinkhabwala, The Record, Bergen County, N.J.
George Lehner, WTVN-AM, Columbus, Ohio
Iliana Limon, Albuquerque (N.M.) Journal
Stewart Mandel, SI.com
Dan McDonald, Lafayette (La.) Advertiser
Susan Miller Degnan, Miami Herald
John Moredich, Tucson (Ariz.) Citizen
Tom Mulhern, Wisconsin State Journal, Madison
John Niyo, Detroit News
Neill Ostrout, Connecticut Post, Bridgeport
Jeff Parson, Wichita (Kan.) Eagle
David Paschall, Chattanooga (Tenn.) Times Free Press
Joe Person, The State, Columbia, S.C.
Michael Pointer, The Indianapolis Star
Mike Prater, The Idaho Statesman, Boise
Scott Rabalais, The Advocate, Baton Rouge, La.
Mike Radano, Courier-Post, Cherry Hill, N.J.
Dave Rahme, The Post-Standard, Syracuse, N.Y.
Ray Ratto, San Francisco Chronicle
Doug Segrest, The Birmingham (Ala.) News
John Shipley, St. Paul (Minn.) Pioneer Press
Jay Tate, Montgomery (Ala.) Advertiser
John Tautges, Westwood One Radio
David Teel, Daily Press, Newport News, Va.
Jimmy Tramel, Tulsa (Okla.) World
Mark Tupper, Decatur (Ill.) Herald & Review Bee
Ken Tysiac, Charlotte (N.C.) Observer
Adan Van Brimmer, Savannah (Ga.) Morning News-Augusta
Mike Vega, The Boston Globe
Graham Watson, St. Louis Post-Dispatch
Jon Wilner, San Jose (Calif.) Mercury News
Doug Wilson, Bloomington (Ind.) Herald-Times
Scott Wolf, Los Angeles Daily News
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From a quick review, I'm certain Herbstreit and Craig James played.
 
#49
#49
Jesus christ you love to nitpick dont you. I said AMONG THE VOTERS they never played the game. DID I SAY ONE TIME THAT NONE HAVE PLAYED? Sure good amount have played but there are alot that have not and have an equal vote to those former players to voice an opinion for the mythical national championship. I have agreed with you on alot of things here but being that nitpicky is rediculous.
 
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