The black hole of history.

[gsvol]

Political Islam // Articles // The Black Hole of History

Everybody knows that Turkey, Egypt, North Africa,
Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and other
Islamic nations (there are 57 in all) are nearly 100%
Muslim. Those countries were Christian, Buddhist and
Hindu. Exactly how did this change to Muslim happen?

When you read history it seems that Islam came, and,
magically, the countries are Islamic. But of course an
event of this magnitude did not simply happen. But our
schools insist that Islam “just happens.” In fact, the
entire history of the rise of Islamic imperialism is denied
in the curriculum of our private, state and religious
schools. Our schools don’t teach how Islam transforms
each and every nation it invades to pure Islam, how it
happens and what the consequences are. This is the
law of Islamic saturation.

Our history denies the truth of the Islamification of
civilizations. Actually, our history denies that Islam is
even involved. It was the Turks, the Arabs, the Moors
and so on. There is no Islam, just some ethnic group.

Look even closer at the history and ask this question:
how many Kafirs (non-Muslims) died in Islamic conquest?
You may find a number of dead here and there at a
particular battle, but the establishment answer of the
number murdered by jihad is zero, zip, none. In fact,
there was not even a category called “jihad deaths.”
You see, Islam just happens.
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This is a civilizational problem, not an accounting
problem. It is not that we deny that 270 million have
been killed by jihad; we deny that Islam is even at war
with all Kafirs and Kafir civilization. A better kill number
won’t erase the cowardice that blinds us today to an
acknowledgment that Islam has a history of annihilating
all civilization—the law of Islamic saturation.
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Facts and numbers are important but the real tragedy
here is that our schools don’t teach the history that is
the source the world’s greatest suffering caused by
Islamic jihad imperialism.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

huh?

 

[lawgator1]

Was 7 to 1 this was anti-Muslim, just based on the title.

Pay the chalk bettors.

 

[zjcvols]

Oh look, gsvol is being a bigot again.

 

[trevols81]

Beware!!! The moslems are coming!!!

 

[gsvol]

huh?

huh what?

Was 7 to 1 this was anti-Muslim, just based on the title.

Pay the chalk bettors.

Right, people are going to make their bets on the advice
of a loser like you?

 

[zjcvols]

huh what?






Right, people are going to make their bets on the advice
of a loser like you?

Sure as hell won't for you either.

 

[gsvol]

Oh look, gsvol is being a bigot again.

Let's look at some historical facts about islam;

Around 300 million human beings slaughtered to establish
islam in certain areas of the world.

Probably over twice that number taken into slavery.

Billions oppressed by islamic sharia law and all women
are treated as some man's property from cradle to
grave.

You need to look up the word 'bigot' in the dictionary
to understand just what that word means before
throwing it around irresponsibly.

Beware!!! The moslems are coming!!!

In the first century of moslem military expansion as they
swept accross North Africa, accross the Tigris Euphrates
valleys and into Persia, if they had not been so brutal in
slaughtering vast numbers, those ahead of the expansion
would have been forwarned of the coming scourge and
better able to prepare to defend themselves.

A word to the wise is sufficient, a thousand words to a
fool is a complete waste.

How many western students have the first clue about
islamic jihad in Pakistan and India throughout history
of just even the 20th century?

History of Jihad against the Hindus of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (638 - Ongoing)

Unlike the complete Islamization of Persia, Egypt, Mesopotamia, Turkey, North Africa, the Islamization of India was never complete. After more than one millennium of Muslim Tyranny from 715 up to 1761, more than 70 percent of the population of India remained Hindu. This was NOT due to any Muslim charity or benevolence, since the murderous and savage beastlike Muslims have none of these characteristics.

The Muslim tyranny in India was as blood-thirsty and insidious as it was in all parts of the globe that were unfortunate to be trampled by the Jihadis. The Hindus suffered initial setbacks due to the innocuous but ill-founded belief amongst them, as amongst all other non-Muslims, that the Muslims too were normal human beings, who would after a victory, settle down to govern the defeated population.
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Hence only the Crusaders, the Franks and the Mongols could prevail over the Muslims and that too only as long as they nurtured and effectively used against the Muslims a mentality of being more compulsively paranoid mass murderers of the Muslims than the Muslim themselves are against all non-Muslims.

Unfortunately the Muslims till today are compulsively paranoid mass murderers, as their ancestors have been for fourteen centuries ever since that lecherous and heinous heathen Mohammed-ibn-abdallah founded the murderous cult of Islam in the year 622 C.E.
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But in India, the only difference there was that once the nightmare of Muslim tyranny began, the Hindus grew wiser relatively faster than most of the other unfortunate victims of the Islamic Jihad and started paying back the Muslims in their own coin, although belatedly and only intermittently.

Sure as hell won't for you either.

How could you possibly know the first thing about
booking a winner?

Consider the words of Brigitte Gabriel

About Ms. Gabriel


Her words are heeded in many very influential venues
even though you would no doubt mock her as you do
me.



Or consider the words of Ayaan Hirsi Ali:

Ex-Muslim: Proposal that Islam is Tolerant is Fallacious, Dangerous, Christian News

Hirsi Ali has been living under a fatwa, a religious
ruling or in this case an order to kill, for years.
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"I'm frustrated with the continuous belief and, I think,
self-delusion that Islam is only a religion," she
said. "Islam is more than a religion. It does have a
spiritual dimension ... but there is another dimension
to Islam – a political dimension."
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The Prophet Muhammad defined the state of peace
and tolerance as a moment when the entire world
submits to Allah and embraces Islam, said Hirsi Ali,
who fled from her Muslim family and an arranged
marriage in her early twenties and sought asylum
in the Netherlands.

"That word 'peace,' 'tolerant' is not defined in Islam
as you define it in the West," she clarified. "It doesn't
mean ceasefire or compromise. That's temporary.

In Islam, the way to achieve peace is through
settlement, jihad, and the institution of sharia
(Islamic law), she explained.

And before the state of universal Islamization, "it is
the duty of every Muslim male to wage war" – not
just by carrying weapons but by preaching and
persuading, she added.

"The proposition that Islam is tolerant is not
only fallacious but it's also dangerous,"
Hirsi Ali underscored.
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While U.S. policymakers focus their attention on armed
militias such as Al-Qaeda and Hamas, other groups such
as the Muslim Brotherhood and nongovernmental
organizations – which have "postponed" violence and
chosen a method of preaching, settling and slowly
infiltrating – are being overlooked, she noted.

 

[zjcvols]

Let's look at some historical facts about islam;

Around 300 million human beings slaughtered to establish
islam in certain areas of the world.

Probably over twice that number taken into slavery.

Billions oppressed by islamic sharia law and all women
are treated as some man's property from cradle to
grave.

You need to look up the word 'bigot' in the dictionary
to understand just what that word means before
throwing it around irresponsibly.








In the first century of moslem military expansion as they
swept accross North Africa, accross the Tigris Euphrates
valleys and into Persia, if they had not been so brutal in
slaughtering vast numbers, those ahead of the expansion
would have been forwarned of the coming scourge and
better able to prepare to defend themselves.

A word to the wise is sufficient, a thousand words to a
fool is a complete waste.

How many western students have the first clue about
islamic jihad in Pakistan and India throughout history
of just even the 20th century?

History of Jihad against the Hindus of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (638 - Ongoing)








How could you possibly know the first thing about
booking a winner?

Consider the words of Brigitte Gabriel

About Ms. Gabriel


Her words are heeded in many very influential venues
even though you would no doubt mock her as you do
me.



Or consider the words of Ayaan Hirsi Ali:

Ex-Muslim: Proposal that Islam is Tolerant is Fallacious, Dangerous, Christian News

You're right. Christians have never been violent, and all Muslims want everyone dead. You're such an idiot.

 

[zjcvols]

Bigot:

a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Sounds exactly like you.

 

[lumberjack4]

Why does the hole have to be black?

 

[VOLatile]

Why does the hole have to be black?

It's actually brown.

 

[gsvol]

You're right. Christians have never been violent, and all Muslims want everyone dead. You're such an idiot.

Great points.

Ten to one you we dismissed from your high school debating team for being totally incompetent?

Bigot:

a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Sounds exactly like you.

No actually it sounds like islamic leaders, both of history and of today.

Why does the hole have to be black?

Because no light escapes?


Review | White Gold by Giles Milton

Aside from the odd trashy movie with an escape from the harem theme, the idea of white slavery is not on the radar of Western culture. The fact that through over 300 years, from the early 16th to the early 19th centuries, more than one million Europeans were captured and sold into slavery in North Africa, has been wiped from our collective memory.
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Along with Pellow's tale, Milton includes the broad story of the 17th century white slave trade. The corsairs conducted regular raids on not just nearby Spain but also as far as the coasts of Cornwall and Wales, Scandinavia and Iceland. They attacked seaside towns with the sole intention of snatching men, women and children and taking them back as slaves, the profit from white slaves being much greater than anything else they could steal. They also seized ships in the Atlantic, including vessels from Newfoundland and New England.
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The tragedy for those who converted simply to survive was that their home countries decreed that converts had forfeited their nationality. Referred to as "renegades" the converts were never included in any rescue or ransom attempts for the Christian slaves.

When those who retained their Christian faith suffered constantly for it, the temptation to convert to Islam to avoid further torture or death from starvation would have been overwhelming.

The role of the slave industry as the theater of conflict between Christianity and Islam create the most interesting discussions in White Gold. The Moroccan slave markets also dealt in African slaves. The main element in the suitability of individuals for enslavement was not their race but their faith. Just as the trade in white slaves was tapering off, the trade in black slaves was stepping up, ........

We have Thomas jefferson tho thank for ending that era and today moslems and progressives try to claim that he was a closet moslem himself.

White Gold - Giles Milton

Thousands of Europeans had been snatched from their homes and taken in chains to the great slave markets of Algiers, Tunis and Sale in Morocco. Poked, prodded and put through their paces, they were sold at auction to the highest bidder.

Pellow and his ship-mates were bought by the tyrannical sultan of Morocco, Moulay Ismail. He was constructing the largest imperial pleasure palace in the world. It was being built entirely by Christian slave labour.

Thomas Pellow was to find himself a personal slave of the sultan. He would witness first-hand the barbaric splendour of the imperial court, as well as experience daily terror. For twenty-three years, he would dream of his home, his family and freedom. He was one of the fortunate few who survived to tell his tale.

In many cases in areas of Europe not targeted for occupation the moslems extracted a tribute, even the Vatican paid up a sizable sum annually.

One Italian city refused to pay one year and closed their city gates but the moslems rounded up 20,000 peasants in the area and beheaded them before the gates of the city, the next year that city didn't fail to pay it's tribute.

 

[trevols81]

Hey, gs that is a wonderful point about the slavery of europeans(if the numbers are even true).

Just curious, but what is your take on all of the Christians who gladly excepted Africans who were displaced from their home continent to work for nothing?

Let me guess:

You probably believe that slavery never existed in this country or that we were doing all those people a favor by taking from their homes.

 

[VOLatile]

Hey, gs that is a wonderful point about the slavery of europeans(if the numbers are even true).

Just curious, but what is your take on all of the Christians who gladly excepted Africans who were displaced from their home continent to work for nothing?

Let me guess:

You probably believe that slavery never existed in this country or that we were doing all those people a favor by taking from their homes.

Slavery was justified in the Bible.

 

[trevols81]

Slavery was justified in the Bible.

Which means nothing to me.

 

[gsvol]

Hey, gs that is a wonderful point about the slavery of europeans(if the numbers are even true).

Just curious, but what is your take on all of the Christians who gladly excepted Africans who were displaced from their home continent to work for nothing?

Let me guess:

You probably believe that slavery never existed in this country or that we were doing all those people a favor by taking from their homes.

The numbers are far less that the real number if you count those taken in the Balkans and in Spain and Portugal before the time in question.

The real number is more like four to five million which pales in comaprison to those taken from North Africa, and what is now Iraq, Persia, India (inclicluding Pakistan what was back then part of India for forced conversion as also was Afghanistan) and the moslems took ten times as many slaves from Africa than were brought to the western hemisphere and even then those brought to the west were often obtained from moslem slave traders.

Of the African slaves who were brought to the America, 95% went to areas controled by the European colonialists and only 5% came to America which outlawed any more importation of slaves in about 1840.

One can look to Christian activists and the western powers for ending the African slave trade.

You can find no prominent islamic scholar who will condemn the owning of slaves even today and it does still exist in islamic controled areas, Mauritania has close to a million black Africans who still exist as slaves in that country.

One of our local high school students just had a big write up in the local paper about child slavery in Pakistan, including pictures of children working in appalling conditions in stone quarries that he had made himself on a trip there and a foundation has been established to try to buy these orphans (or kidnapped children) and set them free.

I have a suggestion, you might study the facts and try to put things in perspective before slinging crap at anyone who is trying to enlighten you on the real factoids.

Just a thought.

FWIW, I find the idea of one human being owning another to be extremely repugnant and always have.

Are you familiar at all with Thomas Jefferson's action against the barbary pirates?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Gs, I've always wondered, what's your aim? What would you have done to Muslims if given the power to make any decision you'd like?

 

[trevols81]

Since you love photoshopped images, this is for you, gs:

 

[gsvol]

Gs, I've always wondered, what's your aim? What would you have done to Muslims if given the power to make any decision you'd like?

My aim is to make people aware, both of history and of current events.

I won't go into what dicisions I would make but will make two observations.

To give known islamists access to the highest levels of our national intelligence community is idiotic of not treasonous.

As far as immigration goes, I believe we need to cut way back on the number of moslems we allow into the country legally and find room for far more of the people of the world who are persecuted and displaced by the islamic oppression, in particular Christian minorities.

Since you love photoshopped images, this is for you, gs:

View attachment 42031

Here is one for you that isn't photoshopped:

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Who would be more fortunate... detained Japanese-Americans during WWII or American Muslims under your regime?

 

[gsvol]

Who would be more fortunate... detained Japanese-Americans during WWII or American Muslims under your regime?

That reminds me of a line from the movie; 'the sun also rises.'

The Japanese student at UCLA was called home just before Pearl Harbor and was quite upset with his dad and went on and on about the sort of things you yourself continually harp upon and his dad replied to him; "son it is not about all that, it is about who will be the master and who will be the slave."

I suppose that is why so many of my relatives and neighbors now line up to apply for jobs in German and Japanese auto manufacturing jobs here in Tennessee.

Confronting your own false beliefs can be a daunting task, even more so when coupled with an overwhelming level of corruption in the world around you, steering you the wrong way. Coming to grips with the latter can end your days of innocence about mass media and politics.

When people are confronted with real facts, it transforms their opinions and opens their beliefs that were once marketed and manufactured by un-relative brainwashing!

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.

"I summon my blue-eyed slaves anytime it pleases me. I command the Americans to send me their bravest soldiers to die for me. Anytime I clap my hands a stupid genie called the American ambassador appears to do my bidding. When the Americans die in my service their bodies are frozen in metal boxes by the US Embassy and American airplanes carry them away, as if they never existed. Truly, America is my favorite slave.
King Fahd Bin Abdul-Aziz, Jeddeh 1993

Rather than either way you suggest my way would be far far more fortunate than your way of dhimmitude!!! :finger3:

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I only ask because you're a raging bigot with the tolerance of a Cotton-Eyed Joe's bouncer. It matters not, as you avoided the question just as I figured you would.

 

[zjcvols]

Great points.

Ten to one you we dismissed from your high school debating team for being totally incompetent?





No actually it sounds like islamic leaders, both of history and of today.








Because no light escapes?


Review | White Gold by Giles Milton



We have Thomas jefferson tho thank for ending that era and today moslems and progressives try to claim that he was a closet moslem himself.

White Gold - Giles Milton



In many cases in areas of Europe not targeted for occupation the moslems extracted a tribute, even the Vatican paid up a sizable sum annually.

One Italian city refused to pay one year and closed their city gates but the moslems rounded up 20,000 peasants in the area and beheaded them before the gates of the city, the next year that city didn't fail to pay it's tribute.

So you are saying Christians have never, ever been violent in their religion's history?

 

[gsvol]

It's actually brown.

I think you may be thinking of a different hole.

I only ask because you're a raging bigot with the tolerance of a Cotton-Eyed Joe's bouncer. It matters not, as you avoided the question just as I figured you would.

For starters your question is too stupid for serious consideration.

When and where have I advocated for the internment on anyone?

Here is a return question, was it better for the interned Japanese during WWII or for those in Nazi concentration death camps or even for American soldiers captured by the Japanese or even civilians held by the Japanese, both women and children and merchant marine Americans who were used as slave labor.

And since I mentioned slavery, which had better condidtions, slaves of the west of slaves of the moslems?

Note, male slaves held by the moslems had a high degree of probability of being castrated to make them more docile and if they should happen to complain then there tongues would be cut out so they couldn't articulate their complaints.

So you are saying Christians have never, ever been violent in their religion's history?

No.