The Chosen One

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TennesseeFan07

TennesseeFan07

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Needs Tommy John surgery. He's such a great talent. I hope it's not derailed by continous injuries.
 
#2
#2
Hate it for him.

I made the comment after he was shelved with the shoulder stiffness that the elbow would be next.
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#3
What a lousy break for the kid, I wonder how old he was when he started throwing breaking balls?
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#4
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It's his throwing mechanics. Looks like he's taking the same path as Prior and Wood.
 
#6
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They said the same about Prior. I was reading one scouting site who thought his mechanics would cause him problems in the future. Of course i don't know if that's the reason.
 
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NYYVol said:
His mechanics are actually pretty solid.
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I've heard the same in comparison to Prior. His arms form an upside down W when he throws which isn't something alot of guys do.

Hate it for the kid and the Nationals. See ya in 2012 Stephen.
 
#8
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The W is supposed to be a bad thing. Another player that throws like that is Zumaya. It's still a small sample size though.
 
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#9
Once the shoulder stiffened up, I knew it was a matter of time. Guys start doing subtle changes to baby the shoulder and the elbow/forearm area always is the first to suffer.

Also, I'd love to see what kind of throwing routine the Nationals had him on.
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JTrainDavis said:
What a lousy break for the kid, I wonder how old he was when he started throwing breaking balls?
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He was about 19 years old when he gained all his velocity. A late growth spurt, followed by exerting that amount of force on his shoulder and elbow, could possibly be the culprit.
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NYYVol said:
Once the shoulder stiffened up, I knew it was a matter of time. Guys start doing subtle changes to baby the shoulder and the elbow/forearm area always is the first to suffer.

Also, I'd love to see what kind of throwing routine the Nationals had him on.
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Instead of chalking it up to bad luck, someone will find a way to blame the pitching coach.
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Hobock said:
He was about 19 years old when he gained all his velocity. A late growth spurt, followed by exerting that amount of force on his shoulder and elbow, could possibly be the culprit.
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If curveballs are taught correctly, they should never be an issue.
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Hobock said:
Instead of chalking it up to bad luck, someone will find a way to blame the pitching coach.
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They will.

My thing is how did the farm system handle it. I'm a faithful believer in throwing everyday while controlling effort.
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NYYVol said:
They will.

My thing is how did the farm system handle it. I'm a faithful believer in throwing everyday while controlling effort.
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I can guarantee you that the farm team's coaches didn't control his pitching regiment. That came straight from the top in D.C.
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Hobock said:
I can guarantee you that the farm team's coaches didn't control his pitching regiment. That came straight from the top in D.C.
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Which is what I meant. Not sure on the throwing program he was on.

The jump from college to the pro game is a big leap for a starting pitcher. The path he took was astronomical.
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#19
#19
Yet another example that There's No Such Thing As A Pitching Prospect. Most of the great ones never turn out to be as good as they're supposed to be, and of the ones who are, probably half of them get hurt pretty quickly, and of those, probably half of them are never close to as good again. Even a prospect as great as Strasburg is just a lottery ticket.

Best of luck to him. Sucks for the Natinals.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Yet another example that There's No Such Thing As A Pitching Prospect. Most of the great ones never turn out to be as good as they're supposed to be, and of the ones who are, probably half of them get hurt pretty quickly, and of those, probably half of them are never close to as good again. Even a prospect as great as Strasburg is just a lottery ticket.

Best of luck to him. Sucks for the Natinals.
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Good post.
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NYYVol said:
Many pitchers come back from Tommy John with greater velocity.
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Many pitchers come back from Tommy John with tweaked mechanics which leads to lesser "stuff" and decreased command. There is no telling how he will do coming back from this.
 
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vols kick balls said:
Many pitchers come back from Tommy John with tweaked mechanics which leads to lesser "stuff" and decreased command. There is no telling how he will do coming back from this.
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True. Really could go either way at this point.
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