The clown doesn't have a clue how to lead.....UPDATE 1-Obama attacks Bush policies in

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BeecherVol said:
Hope and Change!
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lawgator1 said:
I don't see how the Republicans can on the one hand run on budget deficits and then on the other successfully defend the Bush tax cuts, especially since the Dems can so easily argue that the cuts are going to those who have been getting the big Wall Street bonuses.
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Well done LG.

You have just jumped into the boat Obama is in. What I passed hasn't worked, in fact for many areas it got worse, so..........Bush's tax cuts/and or his mere existence has caused the 2nd Great Depression talk. Maybe everybody will think of him instead of me gibberish.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think the reason for that is that an overwhelming majority of the country pretty much abhors Bush and like Obama correctly blames he and his adminsitration's malfeasance for quite a bit.
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The times they are a changin'

48% Blame Obama for Bad Economy, 47% Blame Bush - Rasmussen Reports

For the first time since President Obama took office, voters see his policies as equally to blame with those of President George W. Bush for the country’s current economic problems.
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IIRC, didn't Reagan rail on Jimmy Carter and the Democrats in his 1984 Republican nomination speech? That was 4 full years removed from Carter and he was still blaming him for stuff.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Might want to check that....

Republican National Convention (August 23, 1984) - Miller Center of Public Affairs

The reference is how democrats blame america first........ nothing new.....
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Hmm who's he talking about?

Well, let's take them on a little stroll down memory lane. Let's remind them of how a 4.8-percent inflation rate in 1976 became back-to-back years of double-digit inflation—the worst since World War I—punishing the poor and the elderly, young couples striving to start their new lives, and working people struggling to make ends meet.

Inflation was not some plague borne on the wind; it was a deliberate part of their official economic policy, needed, they said, to maintain prosperity. They didn't tell us that with it would come the highest interest rates since the Civil War. As average monthly mortgage payments more than doubled, home building nearly ground to a halt; tens of thousands of carpenters and others were thrown out of work. And who controlled both Houses of the Congress and the executive branch at that time? Not us, not us.
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He's blaming Carter 4 years after he's been in office.
 
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Chattaben said:
Hmm who's he talking about?



He's blaming Carter 4 years after he's been in office.
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The difference is, what "failed economic policies" put in place by Bush would this regime not supported? The only policy is the tax cuts for just about everyone, Barry would not have supported that but they would have spent way more than Bush.

Don't forget tge libs had control of Congress beginning in 2007.
 
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Chattaben said:
Hmm who's he talking about?



He's blaming Carter 4 years after he's been in office.
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the difference being is that Reagan and his administration, along with a compliant media didn't engage in a 24/7 effort to blame Carter.

surely you can see the difference
 
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Chattaben said:
Hmm who's he talking about?



He's blaming Carter 4 years after he's been in office.
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Carter, who constantly used the blame america montra.....the party was still running on the platform. Reagan responded in kind.

Not quite sure where you are going with this.

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its kinda funny, Texas is one of the states that hasnt been hit by the recession as hard, if im not mistaken Houston has shown a lot of growth the past several years, Texas is a state that is ran fiscally conservative as compared to California which is a prime Democrat type spending state and look at the hole it is in.
 
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The way Chattaben types, one would be led to believe he loves the Detroit model for our gov't.

Gov't, gov't and more gov't!
 
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well if we are goin on the detroit model, lets go ahead and start building shanty towns, tent cities, and designate a suicide cliff
 
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unionize everything! get paid way more then the company makes!!! I pick up trash out of an office, i deserve $30 an hour!
 
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volfanjustin said:
The difference is, what "failed economic policies" put in place by Bush would this regime not supported? The only policy is the tax cuts for just about everyone, Barry would not have supported that but they would have spent way more than Bush.

Don't forget tge libs had control of Congress beginning in 2007.
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I think it is also the combination of deregulation and silently "looking the other way" as the banking and finance industry lost their minds trading derivatives of derivatives of derivatives of subprime crap.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think it is also the combination of deregulation and silently "looking the other way" as the banking and finance industry lost their minds trading derivatives of derivatives of derivatives of subprime crap.
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Don't pretend the left didn't look the other way as well. Both parties ignored the problem.
 
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KB5252 said:
Don't pretend the left didn't look the other way as well. Both parties ignored the problem.
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but how much of the problem was this "deregulation" that Bush-haters like LG speak of, and how much was the awarding of mortgages under the CRA to people who had no business buying a home in the first place? Both parties ignored the problem, but only one party repeatedly deflected efforts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
 
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MG1968 said:
but how much of the problem was this "deregulation" that Bush-haters like LG speak of, and how much was the awarding of mortgages under the CRA to people who had no business buying a home in the first place? Both parties ignored the problem, but only one party repeatedly deflected efforts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
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I'm not sure how to parcel out blame but both were heavy factors in the collapse. You are correct, the left stalled any attempt and talk of addressing Fannie and Freddie and had their hands in the pie along with republicans when it came to Wall Street. The idea that Wall Street is a republican animal and the left isn't up to their neck in the pie as well is lie only the feeble minded could possibly believe.
 
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Looking at most of the heads of these companies that sunk, you'd see a big blue D by their voting records, party registration, and donor history. While the generalization that the GOP was in bed with Wall Street, one could equally argue those running the Street were not just in bed with the Dems but very Dem themselves.
 
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Chattaben said:
He's blaming Carter 4 years after he's been in office.
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Sounds like he's discussing economic troubles in the middle of Carter's term, not during the first half of his own term. And it seems like he was warning against what could happen if the Democrats controlled Senate, House, and Presidency, something that I believe was a good possibility at the time.
 
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Employment is a lagging economic indicator though, so I don't see how it's really relevant right now.

Companies that laid people off aren't going to hire again until they desperately need the help.

I don't see how Obama has a shot at reelection.
 
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Vols520 said:
Employment is a lagging economic indicator though, so I don't see how it's really relevant right now.

Companies that laid people off aren't going to hire again until they desperately need the help.

I don't see how Obama has a shot at reelection.
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Exactly. Why hire if products aren't moving off the shelves? Some companies are now in the black because they have trimmed up and become more efficient to survive. The same thing happened around 2000. Dems just want to send 55 year old former auto workers to college to get a degree in 4 years to get a non existent job.
 
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