The clown!

#27
#27
Forde has allowed his personal dislike for Phil Fulmer and the Tennessee fan base, to influence his analysis of the current Tennessee football team and the overall state of the program under Josh Heupel. That is unprofessional.

Tennessee is a "B" program which just finished 11-2, won the Orange Bowl, and had wins over Alabama, Clemson and LSU? Sure thing, Pat!
 
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Worst sports writer I’ve ever encountered please don’t click on anything this guy spews (as opposed to writes). Has deepened my understanding of the word “hack”.
 
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We have been a B team until last season. From 2008-2021 our SEC record hasn’t been much better than Kentucky or South Carolina and Ole Miss but we are trending in the right direction now no doubt into the A team group.
 
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Ya'll really should read Forde's article before you act like crazy-ex girlfriends about what he wrote about UT. AtoZ /Zach Ragan 110% misrepresented what he wrote and you guys went off completely without any good reason.
YOU. GOT. PLAYED.

Ten Takeaways From the New-Look 2024 SEC Football Schedule
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2. The A-B schedule fulcrum tips considerably if Tennessee continues its resurgence.

Do the math over the past decade and the Volunteers deserve their “B” status. But the return to the program’s traditional stature has begun in earnest, with Tennessee going 11–2 and finishing the 2022 season No. 6 in Josh Heupel’s second year on the job. Keep that up, and by ’24 that could upset the balance of schedules.
Examples: Alabama is playing “A” games at home against Georgia and Auburn, and “A” games on the road against Oklahoma and Texas A&M. Throw in a road game against the Vols (who beat the Crimson Tide last season) and that looks like five “As.”
Of course, this is a zero-sum game and someone from the “A” list probably will be a “B” by then. Among the candidates: Auburn is 11–14 over the last two seasons, Florida is 12–14, Texas A&M is 13–11. It probably will all work out fairly equitably, but for the moment Tennessee looms as one hell of a tough “B” in ’24.
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I do hold a grudge about Forde's comments during Schiano Sunday, he made it personal.

But Zach Ragan wrote a hit piece to enrage the fanbase. I am actually very angry (the polite word) at Ragan.

Forde is complimenting the program in its current state, and the news that Group A and Group B were chosen based on conference records over the past 10 seasons was reported elsewhere, and yes, UT is a Group B program based on the criteria.
And it sucks for everyone we play that they get shafted by a Top10 Group B opponent.

It still pays to actually check your sources before you get bent about it.
This was one time it would have been smart to give Pat Forde the clicks, and let Zach Ragan's lies go unclicked.

This is making me not want to read Zach for a while. I'm usually a fan.
 
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SpookyAction said:
Ya'll really should read Forde's article before you act like crazy-ex girlfriends about what he wrote about UT. AtoZ /Zach Ragan 110% misrepresented what he wrote and you guys went off completely without any good reason.
YOU. GOT. PLAYED.

Ten Takeaways From the New-Look 2024 SEC Football Schedule
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2. The A-B schedule fulcrum tips considerably if Tennessee continues its resurgence.

Do the math over the past decade and the Volunteers deserve their “B” status. But the return to the program’s traditional stature has begun in earnest, with Tennessee going 11–2 and finishing the 2022 season No. 6 in Josh Heupel’s second year on the job. Keep that up, and by ’24 that could upset the balance of schedules.
Examples: Alabama is playing “A” games at home against Georgia and Auburn, and “A” games on the road against Oklahoma and Texas A&M. Throw in a road game against the Vols (who beat the Crimson Tide last season) and that looks like five “As.”
Of course, this is a zero-sum game and someone from the “A” list probably will be a “B” by then. Among the candidates: Auburn is 11–14 over the last two seasons, Florida is 12–14, Texas A&M is 13–11. It probably will all work out fairly equitably, but for the moment Tennessee looms as one hell of a tough “B” in ’24.
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Thanks for the facts. AToZ is really bad for generating shallow clickbait, to the point that I won’t read their articles.
 
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FlyFishnVol said:
Pat Ford is trying to lure UT fans into a click battle to get his tired style of writing some kind of adreline shot. It's sad to see this type of behavior from an aging dry piece of toast. I feel sorry for Pat, he is really desperate for ratings.
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This.

I mean by now everyone should be used to his crap. You want to get revenge? Best way is by ignoring him. He’s a two year old screaming for attention.
 
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SpookyAction said:
I thought the Group A and Group B teams were determined by conference win-loss records over the previous 10 years.
That fact makes the AtoZ article stupid and moot.
Forde is a hack, but call him out when he hacks, and not when he is accurate.

Ten year conference record makes UT a Group B. It sucks for the teams that draw UT as a Group B opponent.
And good news for teams drawing UF and Auburn as Group A opponents. Looking at our schedule knowing this makes me feel better about it.

I dislike Forde, but I see the AtoZ article is clickbait of the worst sort. Manufacturing outrage is boring and weak. It makes our fanbase look worse than Forde ever could, because we are attacking him irrationally. Being angry based on the rationale of this article makes Forde's Schiano-based attack look substantiated.
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Wait a minute ... Do we even know for sure that this is the template that the SEC is using to establish future scheduling? You are calling it a fact, but this appears to still be speculation. Forde doesn't cite any sources or even say that he has a source within the SEC league office.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Wait a minute ... Do we even know for sure that this is the template that the SEC is using to establish future scheduling? You are calling it a fact, but this appears to still be speculation. Forde doesn't cite any sources or even say that he has a source within the SEC league office.
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How about the SEC website as the source. It has been on the Conference website since Wednesday.
SEC reveals 2024 football opponents and locations
It is only for the one-off 2024 schedule. 2025 will have a permanent scheduling method yet to be announced. The Conference has already warned that the 2025 schedule might have some matchups at the same stadium in both 2024 and 2025.

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The 2024 SEC opponents were determined based on two primary factors: traditional opponents and balance of schedule strength.

Balance of schedule strength was based on each school's conference winning percentage since the last expansion of the SEC in 2012. The winning percentages for the performance of Oklahoma and Texas in the Big 12 since 2012 were included in determining 16 positions ranked by winning percentage.

Each school's schedule in 2024 will include four opponents - two home and two away -- (Group A, my note)whose winning percentage ranked among the top eight conference winning percentages since 2012. Also, each school's 2024 schedule will include four opponents - two home and two away -- whose winning percentages ranked among the second eight conference winning percentages since 2012 (Group B).

While no school will travel to the same location to which it traveled in 2023, it should be noted that when a long-term schedule format is determined, it may not be possible to structure a schedule that does not include some schools playing at the same location in back-to-back years in the first year of a new format.
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And that is why Zach Ragan's report that Pat Forde disrespected UT, which was based on reporting on news from the SEC office in Birmingham, was dishonest, or based on information Zach Ragan didn't know, but should know.
It seems obvious Zach Ragan knew his article was built on a lie of numerous omissions.

He failed to mention that the 2nd takeaway (the article was 10 takeaways from SEC 2024 schedule) Pat Forde notes the teams who get UT as one of their Group B teams got hosed.
 
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SpookyAction said:
How about the SEC website as the source. It has been on the Conference website since Wednesday.
SEC reveals 2024 football opponents and locations
It is only for the one-off 2024 schedule. 2025 will have a permanent scheduling method yet to be announced. The Conference has already warned that the 2025 schedule might have some matchups at the same stadium in both 2024 and 2025.

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The 2024 SEC opponents were determined based on two primary factors: traditional opponents and balance of schedule strength.

Balance of schedule strength was based on each school's conference winning percentage since the last expansion of the SEC in 2012. The winning percentages for the performance of Oklahoma and Texas in the Big 12 since 2012 were included in determining 16 positions ranked by winning percentage.

Each school's schedule in 2024 will include four opponents - two home and two away -- (Group A, my note)whose winning percentage ranked among the top eight conference winning percentages since 2012. Also, each school's 2024 schedule will include four opponents - two home and two away -- whose winning percentages ranked among the second eight conference winning percentages since 2012 (Group B).

While no school will travel to the same location to which it traveled in 2023, it should be noted that when a long-term schedule format is determined, it may not be possible to structure a schedule that does not include some schools playing at the same location in back-to-back years in the first year of a new format.
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And that is why Zach Ragan's report that Pat Forde disrespected UT, which was based on reporting on news from the SEC office in Birmingham, was dishonest, or based on information Zach Ragan didn't know, but should know.
It seems obvious Zach Ragan knew his article was built on a lie of numerous omissions.

He failed to mention that the 2nd takeaway (the article was 10 takeaways from SEC 2024 schedule) Pat Forde notes the teams who get UT as one of their Group B teams got hosed.
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Thanks for posting. I had not seen this ... and if it is a template for just one season, rather than being an indefinite plan, then this debate is over nothing.
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
I will give my opinion in this: I believe he must be a Schiano fan who is angry over that deal. Being linked with Sandusky is not a good look, and we all know the media can spin whatever narrative they choose. Did he know about it, did he not know? we may never know the real answer to that question. The fans are the ones who pay for tickets, concessions, contribute to the Vol funds, make large donations to the university. I don't believe it had anything to do with whether or not he could win in the SEC. It was all related to the Sandusky problem.
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Well, I agree. But, to be truthful only the national disconnected media put it all at the feet of the Sandusky connection.

The reality was that we did NOT want Shiatno from a coaching standpoint. Our tone deaf AD (maybe controlled?) sat silent on the search for an extended amount of time. Even taking the week to frolic w the fam at the Atlantis Resort during a early season basketball tourney of all things. Several "home run" types of candidates were on the market when we canned Butch. And landing one is miles ahead of the 2nd place responsibility as a UT AD.
Our AD was in cruise control and rumors were floating that he "had his guy". When it came out who it was, it was if the air was sucked out of the State of Tennessee. The guys rep was horrible coming out of the NFL fiasco. More than a few past players came out completely despising this @$$whole. Few believed he was even culturally a good fit.

He was honestly 3rd tier as a candidate in all but the minds of Haslam, Herbie, Pat Ford, and our AD apparently. The mattresses v2.0 came out string the day it was announced. Very quickly the Penn State child rape connection began to be voiced, and it went viral. The AD was doomed right then and there bc all the top tiers were basically landed at that point. He thrashed in death throws for a few days, but was fired for related direct sedition against the wishes of superiors.

Penn State's child rape coverup BECAME the story line. But, truthfully that was not the core issue against Shiatno to the Hill. National media does not care for the truth, so none should be ever be expected.
 
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Pat Ford = Permanent resident
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bigorangepoppa said:
I will give my opinion in this: I believe he must be a Schiano fan who is angry over that deal. Being linked with Sandusky is not a good look, and we all know the media can spin whatever narrative they choose. Did he know about it, did he not know? we may never know the real answer to that question. The fans are the ones who pay for tickets, concessions, contribute to the Vol funds, make large donations to the university. I don't believe it had anything to do with whether or not he could win in the SEC. It was all related to the Sandusky problem.
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I’m pretty sure it’s because he was, and continues to be, a mediocre HC.
 
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He was probably ranking this based off of Blue Chip Recruits. Idk honestly, and dont care enough to dive deep into what this bafoon has to say. Moving on!
 
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