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chuckiepoo said:
I’m guessing years in position. He didn’t last long. But he got his moneys worth!
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Yeah he had some of the most memorable ejections but he is far from the biggest hot head. If you look at it percentage-wise, he only got ejected in 2.1% of his games. Bobby Cox was ejected in in 3.6% of his games. Paul Richards may be the most impressive. He was ejected in 4.5% of his games and he only managed 1837 games.
 
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VolPack22 said:
Yeah he had some of the most memorable ejections but he is far from the biggest hit head. If you look at it percentage-wise, he only got ejected in 2.1% of his games. Bobby Cox was ejected in in 3.6% of his games. Paul Richards may be the most impressive. He was ejected in 4.5% of his games and he only managed 1837 games.
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chuckiepoo said:
Astros getting to the “need to make hay” stage here.. B7, one out, Gamel at plate. 2-0
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Singleton with an RBI Triple! His first! 2-1, A’s. Altuve at bat, one out, man on third, B7.

Bloop! 2-2!! Tied up on a Texas Leaguer! Yordan after a pitching change.
 
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fryeguy93 said:
These are all modern (1900-current) records.
To show the epic natures of the White Sox suckage. Let's add in pre-1900 teams

Losses:
Current Modern Record: 120.......1962......New York Mets
Overall Record:........................134......1899......Cleveland Spiders
The Sox with only 21 games remaining could not break the Spiders' record. Of course, the Spiders' owners were shipping any player with a pulse to their other team (The Browns) and played most of the season on road

Winning Percentage:
Current Modern Record: .235.......1916......Philadelphia Athletics 36-117
Overall Record:.........................130......1899......Cleveland Spiders 20-134

In fact, there are five teams from 1886-1900 that had worse winning percentage than the Connie Mack Athletics. The 2024 White Sox could get as high as a 4th on the 1886-1900 list

Run Differential:
Current Modern Record:.....-345.......1932......Boston Red Sox (566 RS vs 1,330 RS)
Overall Record:........................-723.......1899......Cleveland Spiders (529 RS vs 1333 RA)

The Sox are getting nowhere near the 1899 Spiders playing in their last season. The Sox could finish no higher than 10th or 11th in the pre-1900 record books


More info on the team that could be the only team statistically worse than the White Sox

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Cleveland Spiders - Wikipedia

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The Spiders were one of four national league teams to fold after 1899. The Spiders/Browns controversy caused the league to ban ownership of more than one team. However, The Yankees 1950-60s empire was built on the back of a de facto dual ownership of the Kansas City Athletics that ended when Arnold Johnson died and Charles O. Finley assumed control of the As
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As of 9/10/2024
Chicago White Sox 33 - 113 .226 50-1/2 games behind Guardians 44.5 behind WC. -309 Run Differential
Sox become the 22nd team to have at least 110 losses in modern era. First since 2021 when Baltimore and Arizona finished with 110 (hey! that's a good omen) Watch out for the Sox in 2 seasons.
The White Sox are 27-1/2 games behind next to last place Angels.
At 447 total runs, the White Sox are the only team with less than 500 runs scored. In fact the Marlins are the closest at 555 runs. The MLB modern record for fewest runs scored is 372 by 1908 Cardinals
The Sox have scored double digit runs in a game only once in 2024. They've given up double digit runs 16 times. They've been shutout 13 times and shutout an opponent 3 times. (None since 6/18 and did go back-to-back 5/14-5/15 against the Nats)

LOSSES
White Sox on pace to have 125 losses based on full season results. However, based on record since All Star Break they reach 127 losses. (Record is 120 by 1962 Mets)
They will need to finished 10-6 to avoid tying the Mets. Not happening

WINNING PERCENTAGE:
White Sox win % sits at .226. The record is .235 by Philadelphia Athletics. Based on winning % since All Star Break. The Sox are on pace to finish at .216
Sox will need to finish 6-10 or higher to avoid the record

RUN DIFFERENTIAL:
White sox current run differential is -309 with 16 games to go. The 1932 Red Sox record is -345. Based on season long stats, Chicago will get to -343. Based on Post All-Star Break results, they get to -353.
Losing by less than 2.25 runs per the final 16 games will keep them from reaching the record.

the Sox have 1 more game at #1 Cleveland
3 games against #13 Oakland
6 total games at #14 Angels (3 away and 3 home)
3 games at #4 Padres
3 games at #7 Tigers fighting for the last playoff spot

I think they can now avoid the run differential record as their recent average is losses by less than 2 per game. They play 9 games against the 2 AL games just ahead of them in the AL Standings. (6 on road)
Can they win 3 of those games and put the worst winning percentage in doubt. I don't see how they don't beat the expansion 1962 Mets' loss record.

Breaking all three records would make the 2024 Chicago White Sox the consensus worst team in modern baseball era.

But Hey, what about the future, where does the White Sox Farm System rank? They are normally pretty high after all.
The Southsiders are actually ranked #11 in the lates rankings. Up from #20 in preseason ranking and #267 last year. However, they rank last in their international signings. The Cubs are 8th and the Smokies and Barons play this week in final week off Southern League play and then play 3 game division series next week.

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Here's our ranking of every farm system, from 1-30

Evaluating the relative talents of more than 5,000 prospects in various stages of development across 30 organizations is difficult to do with precision. Yet since MLB Pipeline started its biannual farm system rankings before the 2015 season, the clubs that have earned the No. 1 spot have enjoyed...
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