The Entitlement Generation

#26
#26
We're just having a semantic battle, essentially. The point is that bowl games have become a joke because we are willing to celebrate bad football.

yeah its called being a University of Tennessee fan. we "celebrate" bad football during the regular season too.
 
#27
#27
****, some 5-7 teams make bowl games in years when there aren't enough 6-6 or better teams eligible.

Eliminate conference tie-ins and expand bowl eligibility to all NCAA school divisions. They just have to have a winning record.

OVC vs. Pac 10? yep
Sunbelt vs. ACC? yep
Div. III vs. SEC? yep
 
#28
#28
yeah its called being a University of Tennessee fan. we "celebrate" bad football during the regular season too.

wtf. You have to have a regular season otherwise there is no sport. A post season is optional and is supposed to be a reward for a good season.
 
#29
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We're just having a semantic battle, essentially. The point is that bowl games have become a joke because we are willing to celebrate bad football.

If you think about, outside of a handful, they were always a joke. They just increased the size of the joke. No one cares outside of the fans that you are the Liberty Bowl champion whether at 6-5 or 9-3.
 
#30
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Eliminate conference tie-ins and expand bowl eligibility to all NCAA school divisions. They just have to have a winning record.

OVC vs. Pac 10? yep
Sunbelt vs. ACC? yep
Div. III vs. SEC? yep

Aside from the Sun Belt, which is already FBS, how would that work? If a team is eliminated from the FCS, Div. II, or Div. III playoffs then they can get picked up by a bowl game? I would have enjoyed seeing some of the North Dakota St. teams go up against a mid-range SEC team.
 
#31
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If you think about, outside of a handful, they were always a joke. They just increased the size of the joke. No one cares outside of the fans that you are the Liberty Bowl champion whether at 6-5 or 9-3.

Exactly. 9-3 is a good season and a bowl is a reasonable reward. Whether or not the bowl actually means anything depends on the program and/or bowl. If Rice beats an SEC team in the Liberty Bowl after a 9-3 season, those players will be telling their grandkids about it.
 
#32
#32
Mediocrity merits a bowl? Everybody gets a trophy! A bowl appearance used to mean you had a good season.

It’s about money. New bowl games are created to generate revenue, not because an older generation feels other people are “Entitled” to another football game.
 
#33
#33
Mediocrity merits a bowl? Everybody gets a trophy! A bowl appearance used to mean you had a good season.

It’s about money. New bowl games are created to generate revenue for the sponsor, not because an older generation feels other people are “Entitled” to another football game.
 
#34
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Aside from the Sun Belt, which is already FBS, how would that work? If a team is eliminated from the FCS, Div. II, or Div. III playoffs then they can get picked up by a bowl game? I would have enjoyed seeing some of the North Dakota St. teams go up against a mid-range SEC team.

Pretty much. Although you could have division 2 or 3 champs playing the 4th or 5th place teams from the P5 schools on New Year’s Eve.
 
#35
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It’s about money. New bowl games are created to generate revenue, not because an older generation feels other people are “Entitled” to another football game.

What are you talking about?

It exists because there is money. The money exists because we celebrate mediocrity.
 
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#38
#38
What are you talking about?

It exists because there is money. The money exists because we celebrate mediocrity.

The money exists because people are willing to watch most any football game over the crap on tv in December. It has little to do with the quality of the game and more to do with the quality of programming in general.
 
#39
#39
The money exists because people are willing to watch most any football game over the crap on tv in December. It has little to do with the quality of the game and more to do with the quality of programming in general.

It's as if you live in a world where your only two options for entertainment are (1) watch football or (2) watch something else on live TV.
 
#41
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It's as if you live in a world where your only two options for entertainment are (1) watch football or (2) watch something else on live TV.

As ratings decline due to those other options, those marginal bowl games will go away due to dropping profitability. It's just about money, that's it.
 
#42
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not in basketball

The NBA has too many playoff teams, I agree, but at least there is competitive balance in the league. A P5 school can be bowl eligible by beating 2 bad conference opponents, 3 mid-majors, and an FCS school.

In the NCAA, you have to win your conference tourney or have a solid record. Both are nice achievements.
 
#43
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The NBA has too many playoff teams, I agree, but at least there is competitive balance in the league. A P5 school can be bowl eligible by beating 2 bad conference opponents, 3 mid-majors, and an FCS school.

In the NCAA, you have to win your conference tourney or have a solid record. Both are nice achievements.

But sometimes those with a good record get left out because they dont win the conf tournament -- usually mid majors but some P5s have been also.
 
#45
#45
For a millennial, you are awfully sensitive about old people. I didn't even blame a generation, let alone the "older generation".

...and you love to bash millennials.

:question:

I believe you’re one of the little group of people constantly going off on old people every time millennials are blamed for something in the PF.


Regardless, bowls aren’t created for entitlement reasons. You said something stupid and now it’s time you accept it.


Now, for the OP, that’s entitlement.
 
#46
#46
Millennials are entitled...but so is everyone else. The Millennial Generation gets a lot of crap, some of it deserved, but a sense of entitlement is not unique to them. Millennials are certainly no more entitled than Baby Boomers. Some of the most entitled people in the workplace aren't Millennials but rather people who have been there a long time and are 5-10 years away from retirement.

A trait more unique to Millennials than other generations is that they don't handle adversity well.
 
#47
#47
I believe you’re one of the little group of people constantly going off on old people every time millennials are blamed for something in the PF.

And? I respond to attacks on a generation by pointing out flaws in other generations. Does that somehow seem unreasonable in your mind?

You are a fraud, right? Are you 72's alter?
 
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#48
#48
Millennials are entitled...but so is everyone else. The Millennial Generation gets a lot of crap, some of it deserved, but a sense of entitlement is not unique to them. Millennials are certainly no more entitled than Baby Boomers. Some of the most entitled people in the workplace aren't Millennials but rather people who have been there a long time and are 5-10 years away from retirement.

A trait more unique to Millennials than other generations is that they don't handle adversity well.

They're the only generation I know of that needs safe spaces whenever something triggers a particular anxiety.
 
#49
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And? I respond to attacks on a generation by pointing out flaws in other generations. Does that somehow seem unreasonable in your mind?

You are a fraud, right? Are you 72's alter?

And I point out the flaws within your attacks.

I’m your QC. You’ll thank me one day.
 
#50
#50
They're the only generation I know of that needs safe spaces whenever something triggers a particular anxiety.

There is a very fascist and intolerant group on the left, however millennials aren't the only ones unable to tolerate others' views/beliefs.

For instance, I can't buy alcohol on Sunday morning. Also, there was a mosque being built in Murfreesboro several years ago that people lost their minds over. We've only recently allowed people to marry who they wish. I can't remember--was it millennials who needed a safe space from red Starbucks cups? Who demands their religion be re-inserted into school curriculum?
 

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