The Great USC defense?

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#26
a simple look at the number of draft picks from last years defense tells you all you need to know.

and let's face it pac-10 offenses are vastly superior to the garbage the sec pumps out.
 
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droski said:
a simple look at the number of draft picks from last years defense tells you all you need to know.

and let's face it pac-10 offenses are vastly superior to the garbage the sec pumps out.
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I think Pac-10 offenses are inflated because of a lack of solid defense played in the conference as a whole. It has gotten better over the past 4 or 5 years though.
 
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From ted miller:

Hey, the SEC is the nation's best conference, on average, over the past decade. While that can't be stated as fact, there's plenty of anecdotal and circumstantial evidence -- starting with number of different teams that have won national championships -- to support that idea.

My major contentions in this conference strength debate -- tiresome at times, but also catnip for passionate fans -- have been twofold: 1. USC is the best program in college football. If the Trojans had played in the SEC since 2002, they would have dominated and probably won three or four national titles; 2. The difference between the Pac-10 and SEC -- and Big 12 and Big Ten and everyone else -- isn't nearly as large as SEC adherents and many national commentators claim it is.

For example: Oregon would have been the second-best team in the SEC last year and California and Oregon State would have been in the top-five.

Opening the mailbag: Should Oregon fans fret their O-line? - Pac-10 - ESPN
 
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droski said:
From ted miller:

Hey, the SEC is the nation's best conference, on average, over the past decade. While that can't be stated as fact, there's plenty of anecdotal and circumstantial evidence -- starting with number of different teams that have won national championships -- to support that idea.

My major contentions in this conference strength debate -- tiresome at times, but also catnip for passionate fans -- have been twofold: 1. USC is the best program in college football. If the Trojans had played in the SEC since 2002, they would have dominated and probably won three or four national titles; 2. The difference between the Pac-10 and SEC -- and Big 12 and Big Ten and everyone else -- isn't nearly as large as SEC adherents and many national commentators claim it is.

For example: Oregon would have been the second-best team in the SEC last year and California and Oregon State would have been in the top-five.

Opening the mailbag: Should Oregon fans fret their O-line? - Pac-10 - ESPN
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Better than Alabama, Georgia, and Ole Miss? I don't think so.
 
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droski said:
a simple look at the number of draft picks from last years defense tells you all you need to know.
and let's face it pac-10 offenses are vastly superior to the garbage the sec pumps out.
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Seriously how good do you think they'll be i n the pros? The Defenses I'm comparing them to have players that have gone on to be all-pros. These Trojans looked great against lesser athletes. The Pac-10 is still a soft league.
 
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Lockdown1 said:
Seriously how good do you think they'll be i n the pros? The Defenses I'm comparing them to have players that have gone on to be all-pros. These Trojans looked great against lesser athletes. The Pac-10 is still a soft league.
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the pac-10 is so soft that tenn got physically dominated by 2 .500 pac-10 teams the last 2 years?
 
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droski said:
the pac-10 is so soft that tenn got physically dominated by 2 .500 pac-10 teams the last 2 years?
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SEC fanboys are ridiculous. The SEC is the best football conference, I don't think many people will argue that. The Pac 10 is second, and the gap isn't anywhere near what many of these guys want to believe.
 
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And Lockdown, there are plenty of ex-Trojan defensive players who have been and continue to be good players in the NFL. If you expand that to include the entire Pac 10, there are even more. Take it one step further and include offensive players... well you get the point.
 
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droski said:
From ted miller:

Hey, the SEC is the nation's best conference, on average, over the past decade. While that can't be stated as fact, there's plenty of anecdotal and circumstantial evidence -- starting with number of different teams that have won national championships -- to support that idea.

My major contentions in this conference strength debate -- tiresome at times, but also catnip for passionate fans -- have been twofold: 1. USC is the best program in college football. If the Trojans had played in the SEC since 2002, they would have dominated and probably won three or four national titles; 2. The difference between the Pac-10 and SEC -- and Big 12 and Big Ten and everyone else -- isn't nearly as large as SEC adherents and many national commentators claim it is.

For example: Oregon would have been the second-best team in the SEC last year and California and Oregon State would have been in the top-five.

Opening the mailbag: Should Oregon fans fret their O-line? - Pac-10 - ESPN
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That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read. So including USC, the Pac 10 would've had 4 of the top 6 teams in the SEC last year?
 
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I don't doubt that USC would be just fine in the SEC, but I don't see how they would be even better, winning 4 championships in that time as the link describes. That doesn't make any sense. The author stated he felt the SEC was the stronger conference in general over the last ten years, and the SEC has a conference championship game that would make it that much harder to make a run to the national title, compared to the pac 10.

I am not trying to talk the tired conference toughness smack, I am just saying it makes no sense to say that USC would be even MORE successful in the SEC, given the SEC's set up.
 
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droski said:
The SEC was garbage last year, but personally i think oregon was vastly overrated.
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I guess that's why we send more teams to the BCS bowls than the Pac-10. Your ridiculous. Even in a down year we're better than everyone else.
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droski said:
the pac-10 is so soft that tenn got physically dominated by 2 .500 pac-10 teams the last 2 years?
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Do you think UCLA will beat us this year? Also anybody that knows football could easily see that the better team didn't win. We got out coached in that game.
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emainvol said:
And Lockdown, there are plenty of ex-Trojan defensive players who have been and continue to be good players in the NFL. If you expand that to include the entire Pac 10, there are even more. Take it one step further and include offensive players... well you get the point.
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On O and D the Trojans have had way more busts than successful players. It's easy to go down the line on both sides of the ball and find a whole starting 11 of busts.
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