The Gruden Smokescreen

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It would be great and all to land a giant fish like Gruden, but realistically he's just being used as a smokescreen while they search for a real candidate....

I think we need a college coach.... Not an NFL guy first and foremost... I list these 5 candidates in terms of record and recruiting ability....

1. Butch Davis - loaded Univ to Miami to become one of the all-time super powers in the late '90's, early 2000's.... Also loaded a depleted UNC squad full of NFL talent at a bball school in the South.... Downside is that he's been involved in cheating, needs a tight leash.....

2. Petrino - mastermind offensive and QB guru that coaches teams up way above their level without him.... Unethical and immoral guy, will need the shortest leash around

3. Chris Peterson - throw $$$ at this guy, he can straight up coach.... Wld not want to leave the West coast, but who knows

4. Bob Stoops - why is he on this list? I have no idea..... $$$$$ his azz!!

5. Gary Patterson - throw $$$$ and kitchen sink at him.....

Honorable Mention - Dan Mullen, Charlie Strong, Jimbo Fisher, Tommy Tubberville,
Franklin (Vandy)

We need coaches that either have proved that they can get it done or are getting it done right now, and build a pattern of success..... My #1 pick would be Butch Davis bc he's done it at 2 schools, is the best recruiter of all coaches listed, and knows the South..... He just needs a tight leash....
 
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I would have no problem with Butch Davis being hired but only after going over other options.
 
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We already have NCAA issues. We can't hire a coach who's been in trouble. Also, I'm guessing SEC AD's blackball petrino this year.
 
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VFL44 said:
That would be a smokescreen that starts a fire...that burns down Knoxville.
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No kidding. You use a smokescreen that is a lesser commodity than the end result so the masses are pleased with the upgrade...you get crucified if you do it the other way around.

If we are hopeful for Gruden...then get Golden...it is not going to end well for Hart.
 
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VFL44 said:
That would be a smokescreen that starts a fire...that burns down Knoxville.
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Before we hired Kiffin I put up a thread stating that Kelly was a better choice bc of his experience and patterns of success with 3 different programs.... Kiffin was largely unproven..... Would Kelly have bolted to Notre Dame? Was he offered the UT job?

I have no idea, but I do know that we need a proven college coach.....
 
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If Gruden doesnt end up coming, there is no doubt he has been a smokescreen, but not intentionally.
 
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Using Gruden as a smokescreen would be like getting someone excited about filet mignon and handing them a turd sandwich.
 
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VFL44 said:
That would be a smokescreen that starts a fire...that burns down Knoxville.
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Correct. A properly executed smokescreen would be publicly interviewing Strong or Mullen, then hiring Gruden or Stoops.
 
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SIAP but you don't use the best option as a smokescreen, the option that would unite a divided fan base (regardless of if he can really coach or not). If you do, the real hire is just a let down for everyone. I hope the AD understands this.
 
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tabrams said:
It would be great and all to land a giant fish like Gruden, but realistically he's just being used as a smokescreen while they search for a real candidate....

I think we need a college coach.... Not an NFL guy first and foremost... I list these 5 candidates in terms of record and recruiting ability....

1. Butch Davis - loaded Univ to Miami to become one of the all-time super powers in the late '90's, early 2000's.... Also loaded a depleted UNC squad full of NFL talent at a bball school in the South.... Downside is that he's been involved in cheating, needs a tight leash.....

2. Petrino - mastermind offensive and QB guru that coaches teams up way above their level without him.... Unethical and immoral guy, will need the shortest leash around

3. Chris Peterson - throw $$$ at this guy, he can straight up coach.... Wld not want to leave the West coast, but who knows

4. Bob Stoops - why is he on this list? I have no idea..... $$$$$ his azz!!

5. Gary Patterson - throw $$$$ and kitchen sink at him.....

Honorable Mention - Dan Mullen, Charlie Strong, Jimbo Fisher, Tommy Tubberville,
Franklin (Vandy)

We need coaches that either have proved that they can get it done or are getting it done right now, and build a pattern of success..... My #1 pick would be Butch Davis bc he's done it at 2 schools, is the best recruiter of all coaches listed, and knows the South..... He just needs a tight leash....
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Where were you when we needed you in the Butch Davis thread?
 
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it could just be the fan base that is laying down the smoke screen,remember that his name comes up in every coaching search, it might boil down to a unexpected coach,it would be nice to sit down with Hart and talk coaches with him,wouldn't that be grand ? i wonder if Freak has told him,that VolNatioin wants to know ? right damn now :)
 
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tabrams said:
It would be great and all to land a giant fish like Gruden, but realistically he's just being used as a smokescreen while they search for a real candidate....

I think we need a college coach.... Not an NFL guy first and foremost... I list these 5 candidates in terms of record and recruiting ability....

1. Butch Davis - loaded Univ to Miami to become one of the all-time super powers in the late '90's, early 2000's.... Also loaded a depleted UNC squad full of NFL talent at a bball school in the South.... Downside is that he's been involved in cheating, needs a tight leash.....

2. Petrino - mastermind offensive and QB guru that coaches teams up way above their level without him.... Unethical and immoral guy, will need the shortest leash around

3. Chris Peterson - throw $$$ at this guy, he can straight up coach.... Wld not want to leave the West coast, but who knows

4. Bob Stoops - why is he on this list? I have no idea..... $$$$$ his azz!!

5. Gary Patterson - throw $$$$ and kitchen sink at him.....

Honorable Mention - Dan Mullen, Charlie Strong, Jimbo Fisher, Tommy Tubberville,
Franklin (Vandy)

We need coaches that either have proved that they can get it done or are getting it done right now, and build a pattern of success..... My #1 pick would be Butch Davis bc he's done it at 2 schools, is the best recruiter of all coaches listed, and knows the South..... He just needs a tight leash....
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i would think number 1 and 2 are off the table,Mullen and Franklin would be questionable hires to me,Strong would be interesting,UT would have to get in a bidding war with him,hmmm Jimbo and a Tubberville, or one of the other 3 would be my guess who Hart is going after

of course i would be a lot cheaper and hire my assistant coaches off of VolNatioin ,somebody tell Hart I'm cheap and we would have a hell of a staff lol just ask us :)

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