The HC is all that matters!

[BruinVol]

All this crying about the staff and jones not fulfilling his best staff in American promise need to chew on the coordinators of this staff just a minute!


OC Larry Fedora

DC Charlie Strong



Anybody got any idea how The Zooker did with that elite staff????

 

[KCVolLaw]

All this crying about the staff and jones not fulfilling his best staff in American promise need to chew on the coordinators of this staff just a minute!


OC Larry Fedoro

DC Charlie Strong



Anybody got any idea how The Zooker did with that elite staff????

He recruited a national championship team...

 

[champyvol]

All this crying about the staff and jones not fulfilling his best staff in American promise need to chew on the coordinators of this staff just a minute!


OC Larry Fedoro

DC Charlie Strong



Anybody got any idea how The Zooker did with that elite staff????

i disagree

 

[JOEY'S ALL VOL !!!]

So, let's just fire everybody but CBJ and save our brokeass University some cash then.



Thread is ridiculous.

 

[Special Ed]

Is that the same as Larry Fedora?

 

[BruinVol]

An above average HC with an average staff is much more likely to succeed than an average HC with an elite staff.

Case in point the Zooker

 

[volatil]

Chavis

Cutcliff

 

[bamawriter]

This thread should be a fun read. Well done, OP
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[orbs son]

You can look at our own team and see that the HC isn't all someone needs. Fulmer had Cut, Sanders, and Clawson. Look at what Dooley did with Wilcox compared to Sal. Assistants and to a larger degree Coordinators matter a great deal.

 

[BruinVol]

You can look at our own team and see that the HC isn't all someone needs. Fulmer had Cut, Sanders, and Clawson. Look at what Dooley did with Wilcox compared to Sal. Assistants and to a larger degree Coordinators matter a great deal.

One could argue that the demise of the Fulmer era was his own complacency on the recruiting trail. I am a big fan of PF but IMO that was more of his issue than losing cut.

Also DD didn't accomplish anything with Wilcox or sal so that's a terrible rebuttal

 

[EricBerryistheMan]

An above average HC with an average staff is much more likely to succeed than an average HC with an elite staff.

Case in point the Zooker

I disagree. I think Zook was just an exception.

 

[orbs son]

One could argue that the demise of the Fulmer era was his own complacency on the recruiting trail. I am a big fan of PF but IMO that was more of his issue than losing cut.

Also DD didn't accomplish anything with Wilcox or sal so that's a terrible rebuttal

If you couldn't tell a difference in the D with Sal and with Wilcox then you can't understand football. Also the difference in what Cut could do with an offense and what we did in that year with Clawson were night and day. Crompton looked better in two starts his RS freshman year against LSU and Ark than he did in any game his JR year.

 

[BruinVol]

If you couldn't tell a difference in the D with Sal and with Wilcox then you can't understand football. Also the difference in what Cut could do with an offense and what we did in that year with Clawson were night and day. Crompton looked better in two starts his RS freshman year against LSU and Ark than he did in any game his JR year.

Wilcox accomplished nothing here. He is an elite DC IMO but couldn't overcome his HC. That's my point here.


As I said earlier it can be argued that Fulmer failed at the end due to his own loss of the fire needed for recruiting at an elite level. Should we look at his last few classes and see where they finished nationally to prove that stance???

 

[supersmo18]

Wilcox accomplished nothing here. He is an elite DC IMO but couldn't overcome his HC. That's my point here.


As I said earlier it can be argued that Fulmer failed at the end due to his own loss of the fire needed for recruiting at an elite level. Should we look at his last few classes and see where they finished nationally to prove that stance???

You think Wilcox is elite? He's good, not great, and definitely not elite. That's a huge stretch. What has he done to earn the tag of "elite DC?"

 

[Volumnus 2011]

Chavis

Cutcliff

/thread

 

[orbs son]

Wilcox accomplished nothing here. He is an elite DC IMO but couldn't overcome his HC. That's my point here.


As I said earlier it can be argued that Fulmer failed at the end due to his own loss of the fire needed for recruiting at an elite level. Should we look at his last few classes and see where they finished nationally to prove that stance???

2 of his last 4 classes were top 5. We would kill for one in our last 5 years. Would Fulmer had won anything in 98 with Clawson and Sal?

 

[orbs son]

If Wilcox had of stayed for this past season, we would still have Dooley.

 

[SGMVols]

If Wilcox had of stayed for this past season, we would still have Dooley.

That's probably true. Thus, I'm going to send Wilcox a thank you note for leaving.

 

[docholiday]

All this crying about the staff and jones not fulfilling his best staff in American promise need to chew on the coordinators of this staff just a minute!


OC Larry Fedora

DC Charlie Strong



Anybody got any idea how The Zooker did with that elite staff????

Most of the posters here really are f------ delusional.
The best high school staff in america's time here will not end well. Next year will be a total debacle.

 

[PKT_VOL]

2 of his last 4 classes were top 5. We would kill for one in our last 5 years. Would Fulmer had won anything in 98 with Clawson and Sal?

Highly rated out of high school on rivals doesn't mean sh*t.

 

[orbs son]

That's probably true. Thus, I'm going to send Wilcox a thank you note for leaving.

:loco::lolabove:

 

[orbs son]

Highly rated out of high school on rivals doesn't mean sh*t.

I believe coach Saban and most of the top 10 will disagree.

 

[PKT_VOL]

I believe coach Saban and most of the top 10 will disagree.

I didn't mean over time. Just look at his 2005 class.

Busted biscuits all over the place.

 

[PKT_VOL]

'07 is the same minus Berry.

 

[orbs son]

I didn't mean over time. Just look at his 2005 class.

Busted biscuits all over the place.

That's very true, but he said let's look at the classes and see where they finished nationally.