The Heupel Game Plan

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BigOrangeLoyalist said:
I mentioned this to a friend last night, and he agreed there may be some validity to it. What if our recent slew of no/low scoring first halves is almost by design? In the previous years, we saw the hurry, up-tempo offense throughout most of the game and usually were largely upside down on time of possession. With that, there were some inherent risks… most notably, the defense was on the field most of the game and gassed by mid to late third quarter. If our offense went three and out, they are right back out. Flip to this year… In the first half, we are slowly and methodically driving down the field. I said “almost by design,” above, because I’m sure there is no intention of us dropping end zone passes and missing multiple field goals, because obviously we want to score… but otherwise, our defense has been stellar. So we suck up time while gaining a few points and allowing our defense time to breathe. Conversely, the other team (as evidenced through the first eight games, minus the first half against Kentucky) has a very hard time moving the ball against our defense, which essentially keeps their defense out there more frequently. It’s like we almost lull them into a fake game plan rhythm going into the half. Queue the second half, and we run right out into the hurry up offense. Catch them off guard. Defense isn’t tired at all and actually increases the energy level, with enough to sustain through the remainder of the game and in response to the offensive tempo, and as a result, the opponent’s defense grows more and more weary. I feel like we’ve seen this in each of our last four or five games, although our inability to move the ball in the second half bit us against Arkansas. My analogy was like tug of war… We “hoooold, hold, hold,” for the first half, and then at the beginning of the 3Q, “pull!” Thoughts?

Also, in case you missed it… We are the 5th team since 2000 to allow under 20 points to each of our first seven (now eight) opponents; the previous four teams all won the National Championship. While I’m not sure that we have the offensive consistency to outright win the NC, I thought that was interesting. A lot can happen in a month, and Nico is looking more comfortable.
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Did you and your friend happen to come up with this theory while doing hot rails from the top of a gas station urinal?
 
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Drops and penalties seem to be the bulk of the issues.. Nico still looks like a freshman at times too. One thing I notice is we slow it way down once we get in the redzone. One reason I think we've struggled. Timely injuries from the opposing teams slow us down too.. I think they're better when they go fast but the redzone slowdown seems to mess up drives a lot.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
You have to consider that when we go fast their are phantom injuries happening. Saw it early and often last night. We went fast, dropped a td. Then missed a kick. We ran tempo it just didn't look that way because of the flops KY was having.
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They can fix the flop deal during the game. The injured player has to set out the rest of the quarter or even half. What the sec has come up with will never work. Why wait until after the game and let a bunch of idiots in Birmingham Alabama determine who to suspend or fine. The fine will be a joke to the school or coaches.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
Is this real?
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Yes there is an investigation into the incident.

You can tell by how quickly officers went into aggressor mode this aint their first rodeo. In this day and age you cant do stupid crap, it will go viral. guaranteed they have done this before...
 
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tn4elvis said:
They can fix the flop deal during the game. The injured player has to set out the rest of the quarter or even half. What the sec has come up with will never work. Why wait until after the game and let a bunch of idiots in Birmingham Alabama determine who to suspend or fine. The fine will be a joke to the school or coaches.
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Birmingham isn't. They are sending the film to a third party for feed back if the injury is legit
 
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Oklahoma says a constant struggle with their offense, even though they had outstanding talent, cost Josh his job with them. They say they see the same thing carrying on, here, with our offense. Game after game after game it is a struggle with us. They love Josh as a son but feel something is wrong when you out talent your foe by a bunch and can't score. We are seeing that as well. A good team will not be like we are.
 
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Baseball25 said:
Oklahoma says a constant struggle with their offense, even though they had outstanding talent, cost Josh his job with them. They say they see the same thing carrying on, here, with our offense. Game after game after game it is a struggle with us. They love Josh as a son but feel something is wrong when you out talent your foe by a bunch and can't score. We are seeing that as well. A good team will not be like we are.
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This is nonsense IMO. Look at the scoring average of all the teams where he was the OC and those where he was/is the head coach. He mostly has prolific offenses. An occasional outlier doesn’t define his repeated results.
 
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There isn’t much about our offensive under-performing that is by design. It’s a focus/discipline/mental issue.
 
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Baseball25 said:
Oklahoma says a constant struggle with their offense, even though they had outstanding talent, cost Josh his job with them. They say they see the same thing carrying on, here, with our offense. Game after game after game it is a struggle with us. They love Josh as a son but feel something is wrong when you out talent your foe by a bunch and can't score. We are seeing that as well. A good team will not be like we are.
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Yeah, I always listen to idiot fans.

That last statement outs you
 
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BigOrangeLoyalist said:
I mentioned this to a friend last night, and he agreed there may be some validity to it. What if our recent slew of no/low scoring first halves is almost by design? In the previous years, we saw the hurry, up-tempo offense throughout most of the game and usually were largely upside down on time of possession. With that, there were some inherent risks… most notably, the defense was on the field most of the game and gassed by mid to late third quarter. If our offense went three and out, they are right back out. Flip to this year… In the first half, we are slowly and methodically driving down the field. I said “almost by design,” above, because I’m sure there is no intention of us dropping end zone passes and missing multiple field goals, because obviously we want to score… but otherwise, our defense has been stellar. So we suck up time while gaining a few points and allowing our defense time to breathe. Conversely, the other team (as evidenced through the first eight games, minus the first half against Kentucky) has a very hard time moving the ball against our defense, which essentially keeps their defense out there more frequently. It’s like we almost lull them into a fake game plan rhythm going into the half. Queue the second half, and we run right out into the hurry up offense. Catch them off guard. Defense isn’t tired at all and actually increases the energy level, with enough to sustain through the remainder of the game and in response to the offensive tempo, and as a result, the opponent’s defense grows more and more weary. I feel like we’ve seen this in each of our last four or five games, although our inability to move the ball in the second half bit us against Arkansas. My analogy was like tug of war… We “hoooold, hold, hold,” for the first half, and then at the beginning of the 3Q, “pull!” Thoughts?

Also, in case you missed it… We are the 5th team since 2000 to allow under 20 points to each of our first seven (now eight) opponents; the previous four teams all won the National Championship. While I’m not sure that we have the offensive consistency to outright win the NC, I thought that was interesting. A lot can happen in a month, and Nico is looking more comfortable.
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Heupel's game plan is to bet the first half under line and then improve his record when trailing at half.
 
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We have a great defense. They had a bad night last night and still won the game. A win is a win. I think Nico does better when moving. I would roll him out more and give him the option to run the football. Since the receivers seem to have a problem getting open against these cover 4 defenses stop having him throw out of the pocket under pressure.
 
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Baseball25 said:
Oklahoma says a constant struggle with their offense, even though they had outstanding talent, cost Josh his job with them. They say they see the same thing carrying on, here, with our offense. Game after game after game it is a struggle with us. They love Josh as a son but feel something is wrong when you out talent your foe by a bunch and can't score. We are seeing that as well. A good team will not be like we are.
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This is BS, CJH lost his job because Stoops used him as a scapegoat instead of firing his brother the DC. Stoops forced CJH to run the offense he wanted instead of CJH's offense. The offensive scheme is fine the whole problem all year has been execution. Earlier in the year it was Nico and the O-line, last night it was penalties and dropped passes.
 
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BigOrangeLoyalist said:
I mentioned this to a friend last night, and he agreed there may be some validity to it. What if our recent slew of no/low scoring first halves is almost by design? In the previous years, we saw the hurry, up-tempo offense throughout most of the game and usually were largely upside down on time of possession. With that, there were some inherent risks… most notably, the defense was on the field most of the game and gassed by mid to late third quarter. If our offense went three and out, they are right back out. Flip to this year… In the first half, we are slowly and methodically driving down the field. I said “almost by design,” above, because I’m sure there is no intention of us dropping end zone passes and missing multiple field goals, because obviously we want to score… but otherwise, our defense has been stellar. So we suck up time while gaining a few points and allowing our defense time to breathe. Conversely, the other team (as evidenced through the first eight games, minus the first half against Kentucky) has a very hard time moving the ball against our defense, which essentially keeps their defense out there more frequently. It’s like we almost lull them into a fake game plan rhythm going into the half. Queue the second half, and we run right out into the hurry up offense. Catch them off guard. Defense isn’t tired at all and actually increases the energy level, with enough to sustain through the remainder of the game and in response to the offensive tempo, and as a result, the opponent’s defense grows more and more weary. I feel like we’ve seen this in each of our last four or five games, although our inability to move the ball in the second half bit us against Arkansas. My analogy was like tug of war… We “hoooold, hold, hold,” for the first half, and then at the beginning of the 3Q, “pull!” Thoughts?

Also, in case you missed it… We are the 5th team since 2000 to allow under 20 points to each of our first seven (now eight) opponents; the previous four teams all won the National Championship. While I’m not sure that we have the offensive consistency to outright win the NC, I thought that was interesting. A lot can happen in a month, and Nico is looking more comfortable.
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I’d love to hear your conspiracy theory behind the Arkansas game.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
Yes there is an investigation into the incident.

You can tell by how quickly officers went into aggressor mode this aint their first rodeo. In this day and age you cant do stupid crap, it will go viral. guaranteed they have done this before...
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You’ve lost me. I’m referring to the OP
 
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Although I don’t subscribe to this theory per se, there are several perspectives that tangentially support it, albeit indirectly. Consider the following data points:

1. Broadcast crews for Tennessee’s games have consistently said that Heupel and his coaching staff made it a point of emphasis in the offseason to develop strategies or stylistic approaches that would enable us to win games in a number of ways or different scenarios, as opposed to exclusively relying on his up-tempo offensive scheme.

2. Heupel also said this year that he most definitely wanted to restore Tennessee’s tradition of playing elite defense. Thus far, consider this mission to have been accomplished.

3. The unspoken message, however, may have been that Heupel was confident that he now had a defense good enough that he didn’t have to worry about simply outscoring opponents in shootouts.

4. A corollary to this point also could be that Heupel felt confident enough about this defense keeping us in games that he didn’t have to place Nico regularly in difficult decision-making positions as he progressed through the typical freshman starting quarterback’s growth trajectory.

5. If there is one pattern that has emerged in the last four weeks, it has been that we get off to a slow start in a low-scoring first half and get comparatively little mileage out of Dylan Sampson. Then, in the second half, we feed our thoroughbred over and over, he gets stronger and becomes more productive as the game wears on. Incontrovertible evidence of this pattern is the fact that, during those four weeks, Dylan has amassed 102 carries for 531 yards and 9 touchdowns. The net result has been three home SEC victories and one close road loss, courtesy of our strong running game and defense, which is somewhat reminiscent of the ’98 team.

6. I personally anticipate, however, that Nico is about to hit the afterburners during the last third of the regular season. However, we should roll him out more often to compensate for our pass-blocking difficulties.
 
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BigOrangeLoyalist said:
So you deny that we have been running a balanced, slow paced offense in the first half, but then coming out in the second half with the tempo offense? Because that has been the consistent game flow for five straight games.
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I don't think your friend listened to the broadcast discussions. We are drudging it out in the first half cause the teams we have been playing have been throwing in defensive formations early that have not been seen on film or against any other teams. The staff has to figure this out in real time and make adjustments. They are keeping Nico and company from making mistakes that would would put us down too many points too early in the game. Also, that's why we loosen up in the 2nd half. The commentators addressed this specifically throughout the KY game from conversations with CJH.
 
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Baseball25 said:
Oklahoma says a constant struggle with their offense, even though they had outstanding talent, cost Josh his job with them. They say they see the same thing carrying on, here, with our offense. Game after game after game it is a struggle with us. They love Josh as a son but feel something is wrong when you out talent your foe by a bunch and can't score. We are seeing that as well. A good team will not be like we are.
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BigOrangeLoyalist said:
So you deny that we have been running a balanced, slow paced offense in the first half, but then coming out in the second half with the tempo offense? Because that has been the consistent game flow for five straight games.
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I absolutely disagree with this ridiculousness. We threw the ball downfield a lot in both halves.
 
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