The Impeachment Thread

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TN Ribs said:
Yes, it's being swept under the rug because it has already been thoroughly debunked. Nothing in the relevant Statue or Directive EVER required first hand knowledge. This is just another conspiracy theory peddled by Trump and the the fake news - right wing media outlets. And, of course, the MAGA faithful fall for it every time.
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No it has not be thoroughly debunked. The forms and policy say what they say. As much as you damn Dims play connect the dots that SCREAMS coordination.
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
Adam had to get his marching orders from George.

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Atlantic Council is a Soros org..with Hunter Biden and Crowdstrike CEO as members 🤔 It's becoming obvious they were sloppy in the attempted coup attempt oh well maybe 3rd time is the charm
 

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BowlBrother85 said:
The latest polls from The Economist and Quinnipiac show Biden and Warren in a virtual tie, while the Harvard-Harris poll shows Biden with an 11 point lead over Warren.
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I understand those polls. Don’t you recall the one about the attributes Dems want in a nominee? It came out prior to the first debate.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
At least Putin has the interest of his own country at heart. Unlike the leftists
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Says the guy who supports a President who sides with Putin over US Intelligence and just admitted he sold out US Security Concerns to the Ukraine to investigate a political rival over a conspiracy theory. Trump cares about Trump only.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No it has not be thoroughly debunked. The forms and policy say what they say. As much as you damn Dims play connect the dots that SCREAMS coordination.
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This explains the whole thing pretty well:

"False Report From The Federalist about Whistleblower Complaints Fuels Trump Defenders in Impeachment Inquiry" written by Timothy Johnson of "MediaMatters.org" and published on September 29, 2019 at 2:39 PM EDT

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A conspiratorial article in The Federalist falsely claiming that until recently, intelligence community whistleblowers were required to have "firsthand knowledge" of wrongdoing to file a complaint is being used by other conservative media outlets, Republican members of Congress, and the president himself in desperate attempts to discredit a whistleblower complaint that is at the heart of an impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump.

Trump is currently facing an impeachment inquiry in the U.S. House of Representatives following the revelation that he pressured the president of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden. The allegations against Trump stem from an anonymous whistleblower complaint submitted by a member of the intelligence community. The Trump administration attempted to prevent Congress from accessing the complaint, even though the law required it, but the relented and released the damning report.

Trump defenders in conservative media outlets have pushed a number of misleading narratives about the complaint, and an article published on September 27 by Federalist co-founder Sean Davis is the latest flashpoint in right-wing attempts to spin the allegations in a favorable light to Trump.

In his article, Davis wrote that "between May 2018 and August 2019 the intelligence community secretly eliminated a requirement that whistleblowers provide direct, firsthand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings" and that said action "raises questions about the intelligence community's behavior" surrounding the complaint. Davis attempted to support his claim by citing forms available to the intelligence community to assist potential whistleblowers in filing complaints.

According to Davis, a form available in May contains language suggesting complainants must have firsthand knowledge of wrongdoing to file an "urgent concern" complaint - the type of complaint filed by the whistleblower - but that the form was revised at some point to remove that language. (But according to a senior fellow at the libertarian Cato Institute, the likely explanation for the change was that the information in the previous form was inaccurate on the issue of firsthand knowledge and was therefore updated.)

To be clear, Davis' claim that there was a firsthand knowledge requirement for filing a complaint is false. It simply does not exist in the statute that lays out the requirements of a successful "urgent concern" report. The controlling statute is 50 U.S. Code 3033(k)(5)(G).
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This explains the whole thing pretty well:

"False Report From The Federalist about Whistleblower Complaints Fuels Trump Defenders in Impeachment Inquiry" written by Timothy Johnson of "MediaMatters.org" and published on September 29, 2019 at 2:39 PM EDT

(Excerpt)

A conspiratorial article in The Federalist falsely claiming that until recently, intelligence community whistleblowers were required to have "firsthand knowledge" of wrongdoing to file a complaint is being used by other conservative media outlets, Republican members of Congress, and the president himself in desperate attempts to discredit a whistleblower complaint that is at the heart of an impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump.

Trump is currently facing an impeachment inquiry in the U.S. House of Representatives following the revelation that he pressured the president of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden. The allegations against Trump stem from an anonymous whistleblower complaint submitted by a member of the intelligence community. The Trump administration attempted to prevent Congress from accessing the complaint, even though the law required it, but the relented and released the damning report.

Trump defenders in conservative media outlets have pushed a number of misleading narratives about the complaint, and an article published on September 27 by Federalist co-founder Sean Davis is the latest flashpoint in right-wing attempts to spin the allegations in a favorable light to Trump.

In his article, Davis wrote that "between May 2018 and August 2019 the intelligence community secretly eliminated a requirement that whistleblowers provide direct, firsthand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings" and that said action "raises questions about the intelligence community's behavior" surrounding the complaint. Davis attempted to support his claim by citing forms available to the intelligence community to assist potential whistleblowers in filing complaints.

According to Davis, a form available in May contains language suggesting complainants must have firsthand knowledge of wrongdoing to file an "urgent concern" complaint - the type of complaint filed by the whistleblower - but that the form was revised at some point to remove that language. (But according to a senior fellow at the libertarian Cato Institute, the likely explanation for the change was that the information in the previous form was inaccurate on the issue of firsthand knowledge and was therefore updated.)

To be clear, Davis' claim that there was a firsthand knowledge requirement for filing a complaint is false. It simply does not exist in the statute that lays out the requirements of a successful "urgent concern" report. The controlling statute is 50 U.S. Code 3033(k)(5)(G).
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So somebody wanted to do a 2nd hand complaint and the IG said “ok” and updated the form? Ok let’s hear from the IG time to get him under oath.

Also I didn’t see where the IG policy of first hand information only was explained ? Get him under oath.
 
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Luke bringing the high heat.

Edit: Notice the Nike socks on the son. I thought Nike was persona non grata in Republican circles.

 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The Federalist did not even reference the controlling statute: U.S. Code 3033 (k)(5)(G), in their article on the "whistleblower" complaint. It was very misleading. The statute is the rule... not some form.
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I’ve actually read the statute. I want to hear from somebody under oath why it was not dealt with until this point in time and suddenly within two days the form is updated and a second hand complaint is registered against Trump. As many connect the dots as you lefties have played for three years I’m shocked shocked I say that this issue doesn’t register with you.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Trump and Soros teaming up? That really would be cleaver.
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So you don't know the concept behind baited traps? Ok. I'll explain. You put something that the prey wants into the trap, but the prey doesn't know that it's only set out to capture or consume them.

In this scenario, Trump and Soros would be "teaming up" in the same way that a fish "teams up" with a snapping turtle's tongue.
 
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The rage tweeting continues.

Too bad Donny was never a reader. He should have read the boy who cried wolf. He could have learned something.

 
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