The Impeachment Thread

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VolnJC said:
Drip..drip..drip
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Even if true... and the alleged meeting with "anti-Trump Ukrainian officials" looks sketchy. That still doesn't change the fact that the whistleblower's complaint was correct on the substance of the July 25th phone call between Donald Trump and the Ukrainian President Zelensky. The transcript of that phone call confirmed that this person must have been using a source for information close to Trump or at least to the Trump administration. The whistleblower's identity really doesn't matter anymore, because even a confirmed bias would no longer discredit 3 key points of information which have already been established as factual either by the transcript of the phone call itself or by the Trump administration's own admissions:

1) Trump did request that Zelensky assist his personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, in an investigation of the Bidens.

2) The Trump administration did load the transcript of the July 25th phone call into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature, even though, the transcript did not contain any classified "factual" material that would have justified a move to a more secure server.

3) Just a few days prior to the July 25th call, Trump had placed a hold on military aid to the Ukraine which Congress had already approved. This was not publicly known on July 25th.

The "whistleblower" didn't just guess these things. The "whistleblower" clearly had a solid source who was privy to the July 25th phone call. Trump is lying when he says that the whistleblower complaint is "fiction" or that the whistleblower complaint was mostly wrong. This story has legs only because the "whistleblower" got it right and the whistleblower protocol that is in place, worked as it should. Trump and his administration would have never made these admissions unless they had to.
 
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Jack Burton said:
Teflon Don finna birdwalk to his re-election.
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The Trump campaign obviously considers Biden a threat. They have taken an unprecedented step of buying $1 million in anti-Biden ads to air next week in key early Democratic Primary states. That has never happened before, where an incumbent Presidential campaign aired attack ads during the opposing party's primary... and over 3 months before the primaries even begin, at that. The Trump campaign is, in effect, announcing to the world that they don't want to run against Joe Biden. Take into account that Trump is also soliciting both the Ukrainian and Chinese governments for help with digging up dirt on Joe Biden and they are announcing it with a bullhorn.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Even if true... and the alleged meeting with "anti-Trump Ukrainian officials" looks sketchy. That still doesn't change the fact that the whistleblower's complaint was correct on the substance of the July 25th phone call between Donald Trump and the Ukrainian President Zelensky. The transcript of that phone call confirmed that this person must have been using a source for information close to Trump or at least to the Trump administration. The whistleblower's identity really doesn't matter anymore, because even a confirmed bias would no longer discredit 3 key points of information which have already been established as factual either by the transcript of the phone call itself or by the Trump administration's own admissions:

1) Trump did request that Zelensky assist his personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, in an investigation of the Bidens.

2) The Trump administration did load the transcript of the July 25th phone call into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature, even though, the transcript did not contain any classified "factual" material that would have justified a move to a more secure server.

3) Just a few days prior to the July 25th call, Trump had placed a hold on military aid to the Ukraine which Congress had already approved. This was not publicly known on July 25th.

The "whistleblower" didn't just guess these things. The "whistleblower" clearly had a solid source who was privy to the July 25th phone call. Trump is lying when he says that the whistleblower complaint is "fiction" or that the whistleblower complaint was mostly wrong. This story has legs only because the "whistleblower" got it right and the whistleblower protocol that is in place, worked as it should. Trump and his administration would have never made these admissions unless they had to.
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Lol. Wtf is an anti-trump ukranian official?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The Trump campaign obviously considers Biden a threat. They have taken an unprecedented step of buying $1 million in anti-Biden ads to air next week in key early Democratic Primary states. That has never happened before, where an incumbent Presidential campaign aired attack ads during the opposing party's primary... and over 3 months before the primaries even begin, at that. The Trump campaign is, in effect, announcing to the world that they don't want to run against Joe Biden. Take into account that Trump is also soliciting both the Ukrainian and Chinese governments for help with digging up dirt on Joe Biden and they are announcing it with a bullhorn.
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With all the money they’ve wasted on trying to frame Donnie I’d say they’re a bit worried. It’s been well over a million too.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Less than one week ago.

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What is so stupid about that Graham tweet is, the "whistleblower's" information has already either been proven accurate by the transcript of the phone call, or by the Trump administration's own admissions. The most serious allegations which are contained in the whistleblower's complaint aren't just "hearsay" anymore... they are facts now.
 
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