the individual vs the group

[OrangeEmpire]

I believe Michael is a rifling champion and card carrying NRA member.

BPV has already admitted he stands no chance and hopes the day never comes when utgibbs rolls up. He remains true to his principles though, and has said he will stand down for mercy and not involve John Q Law.

lol @ the bpv comment
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[RespectTradition]

RT, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't your point that the "group" with regards to "RIGHTS" is an artificial construct whereas the individual is genuine?

The libertarian shares the view of the founders that rights belong to individuals by command of natural law. Gov't cannot create a right only deny them. So when liberals attempt a case for "gay rights" or worker's rights or air traveler rights... those groups are artificial and therefore the claim to special "rights" invalid. Am I far off?

Pretty close to my pov, with a caveat.

Groups never have rights, since the group is imaginary. Individuals that identify or are identified with a group have the rights.

In the same way, that is why groups can exercise rights. Because the individuals in the group do not give up their rights just because they choose to associate. Hence, a corporation, union, book club, etc has the right to own property, free speech, be secure from illicit warrants, etc.

 

[BeecherVol]

Heard tell, BPV goes bear huntin' with a switch.