The joke that is American politics

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Anybody watch The Daily Show? I'm sure that there are some here that see him as others see Glen Beck but I watch for his comedic inferences that politics/gov't, at the end of the day, is really a big joke. Helps take the seriousness out of things. If I had to commit, I guess I'd label myself Libertarian. I see pos/neg in both sides but neither mainstream party purely represents my ideals. That said, I think Washington is totally out of touch with reality much of the time and politicians generally seem out for themselves and whatever special interests they need to keep happy to retain their jobs. Stewart did a funny bit on the budget. If anyone wants I'll link the segment.
 
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Stewart is a smart and funny guy. I can only handle a few minutes at a time though before the slant and smugness overtake the smart and funny.
 
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stewart is funny, but i'd wish he'd drop the "i'm soley a comedian and make fun of everybody" garbage and flat out admit the agenda he's driving.
 
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Anybody watch The Daily Show? I'm sure that there are some here that see him as others see Glen Beck but I watch for his comedic inferences that politics/gov't, at the end of the day, is really a big joke. Helps take the seriousness out of things. If I had to commit, I guess I'd label myself Libertarian. I see pos/neg in both sides but neither mainstream party purely represents my ideals. That said, I think Washington is totally out of touch with reality much of the time and politicians generally seem out for themselves and whatever special interests they need to keep happy to retain their jobs. Stewart did a funny bit on the budget. If anyone wants I'll link the segment.

I would agree as long as you don't think that guys like Stewart or Maher (sp?) are libertarians. They aren't. Neither has the zeal or respect for economic rights that they claim for social rights.

"Social libertarianism" boils down to 'people should be able to do whatever they want morally or socially then those who make better choices should pick up the tab when the consequences of their behavior come due'.

For instance, homosexuals in the military. It is a statistical fact that homosexual men in particular are far more likely to get very severe STD's and ailments associated with blood borne pathogens than the general population. So who pays when their engagement in unhealthy sex acts results in huge medical bills? The taxpayer, right?.... Most of whom do not approve of gays in the military.

For years the social libertarian has promoted promiscuity... with the full expectation that "society" would pay for the child or the abortion.

I am willing to go a long, LONG way to give people wide latitude in their choices.... as long as THEY bear the full consequences and not "society". I have submitted that states should have the right to define marriage license qualifications. I still do. However I would be MUCH more likely to drop my legal opposition IF parents were given educational choice and if businesses were given back their property and association rights. A gov't license should not be a basis for parents to lose their rights or for business owners from having their morals and conscience suppressed by statute.

Individual rights and freedoms MUST be controlled by personal responsibility for the outcomes.
 
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It is a statistical fact that homosexual men in particular are far more likely to get very severe STD's and ailments associated with blood borne pathogens than the general population. So who pays when their engagement in unhealthy sex acts results in huge medical bills?

i'd love to see a statistic that proves that gays have significantly higher medical bills. probably true 20 years ago, but today? particurally if you factor in paying for healthcare for the straight mens wifes and kids. we are still generally talking about young, in shape, men. chances are their non combat healthcare cost is less than the general population.
 
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much like Jeff Dunham, I can't figure out how people think this guy is funny.
 
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i'd love to see a statistic that proves that gays have significantly higher medical bills. probably true 20 years ago, but today? particurally if you factor in paying for healthcare for the straight mens wifes and kids. we are still generally talking about young, in shape, men. chances are their non combat healthcare cost is less than the general population.

You won't because that statistic doesn't exist or it's going to be from an extremely obscure blog.
 
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Nathan Lane, Perez Hilton, Elton John, Rosie O'Donnell etc.


Apparently it's a little bit of both...

Gay guys really are thinner, study says

But lesbians are heavier than heterosexual women



By Linda Carroll
msnbc.com contributor
updated 7:34 a.m. CT, Tues., June 8, 2010

In a famous episode of “Seinfeld,” Jerry complains that people constantly assume he's gay because he’s single, obsessively neat — and thin. As it turns out, at least part of that punchline may be anchored in fact.
A new study shows that gay men really are leaner than straight men. And conversely, it also found that gay women tend to be heavier than their heterosexual counterparts.
Boston researchers determined that gay women were more than twice as likely as straight women to be obese, while gay men were 50 percent less likely to be obese compared to their heterosexual counterparts, according to a report published in the American Journal of Public Health.

After scrutinizing a health survey of more than 67,000 Massachusetts residents between the ages of 18 and 64, the researchers found that 14 percent of gay men were obese versus 21 percent of straight men. The opposite was true of gay women: 26 percent were found to be obese, as compared with 17 percent of the straight women.

The researchers also found that both gay men and gay women were more likely to be current smokers compared to their heterosexual counterparts. And gay women were more likely to have multiple heart disease risk factors than straight women.
Earlier studies that looked at health in the gay community focused mostly on sexually transmitted diseases and mental health, rather than on chronic illnesses like obesity and heart disease, says the study’s lead author Kerith Conron, an associate research scientist at Northeastern University and a research fellow at the Harvard School of Public Health. “This may mean that we in the public health community need to come up with more tailored messages to reach these groups, just as car dealers do when they want to reach a specific target audience,” she said.
Conron suspects that cultural differences might at least partly explain the weight divide. It may be more acceptable in the lesbian community for women to be full-sized, she said.

That explanation makes sense to Esther Rothblum, a professor of women’s studies at San Diego State University. “People in sexual relationships with men — heterosexual women and gay men — get more pressure to look thin and to otherwise conform to attractiveness norms than do people in sexual relationships with women — lesbians and heterosexual men,” Rothblum said.
The best evidence for that comes from an older study of bisexual women, Rothblum adds. When the bisexual women were asked to describe their experiences with women and men, the differences were dramatic: they often reported that they got more pressure to be thin when they were with men.
Other researchers have found further evidence of this male effect while studying personal ads and dating sites like Match.com, Rothblum explains. “Men will say they are looking for a partner who is not above 35 years old and not above 135 pounds,” she said. “Women don’t typically do that. They say they are looking for someone with good sense of humor, intelligence, and creativity, or someone who is not an alcoholic.”
Linda Carroll is a health and science writer living in New Jersey. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, Newsday, Health magazine and SmartMoney.
© 2010 msnbc.com. Reprints
 
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The Jeff Sessions portion was gold.
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This was really the only part I wanted people to see. Hiiilarious! As to sjt's response, I mentenioned watching Stewart for his comedic aspect, not to become informed on current events. As to the term 'libertarian', perhaps I used it wrong. In a BROAD way I see myself as socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Perhaps there's another category this puts me in. Or not.
 
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in my experience lipstick lesbians are a myth.

Been to a college campus lately? U of Iowa is crawling with them. In the real world the butch ones most definitely outnumber the lipsticks by about 10:1.
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Been to a college campus lately? U of Iowa is crawling with them. In the real world the butch ones most definitely outnumber the lipsticks by about 10:1.
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I live next to a lesbian couple. Very nice people, but let's just say they know their way around lawn equipment.
 
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Been to a college campus lately? U of Iowa is crawling with them. In the real world the butch ones most definitely outnumber the lipsticks by about 10:1.
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in my experience those aren't "real" lesbians and it generally doesn't stick past graduation.
 
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in my experience lipstick lesbians are a myth.

I personally watched butch and her/his fine as hell girlfriend make out after a basketball game, where I was also trying to make out if butch was a guy or girl. All in all i left the black top wishing I was the lesbian.
 
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Stewart is a smart and funny guy. I can only handle a few minutes at a time though before the slant and smugness overtake the smart and funny.

Agree.

Would also say that while it's a comedy show it basically is crafted to send a message that politicians (esp. on the right) are all bad.

It's a depressing show really and it uses highly edited material to continually pound the same message.
 
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This was really the only part I wanted people to see. Hiiilarious! As to sjt's response, I mentenioned watching Stewart for his comedic aspect, not to become informed on current events. As to the term 'libertarian', perhaps I used it wrong. In a BROAD way I see myself as socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Perhaps there's another category this puts me in. Or not.


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they do seem to go hand in hand and i'm no religion hater either.

I would agree that if someone is going to be homophobic they probably think homosexuality is a sin but I don't think you are both just because you are one or the other.
 

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