The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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utvolpj said:
You ignore or minimize the evidence against Biden. The lies, infidelity, business dealings, kids, sexual assault, etc. He's every bit the immoral character you just can't admit it since you support him. It's sad and really something you should reevaluate
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I don't. You can say I do all you want, but it doesn't make it true.
If you want to talk about ignoring and minimizing, look no further than Trumpers.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
MEGHAN MCCAIN: If faithless liberals just got out of the way, Americans will vote Trump into oblivion. But these left-wing zealots insist on corrupting the system to get Don by any means necessary... and it'll put him back in the White House

As of Saturday morning, former President Donald Trump was exactly where he wanted to be - on the top of websites, plastered across TV screens and trending on Twitter.

As always, Trump, the master of public relations, got ahead of the news to twist it to his benefit.

Now it's highly unlikely that the former president will be perp-walked in legs irons in front of the cameras to a Manhattan precinct. Even the far-left progressive D.A. Alvin Bragg isn't that stupid. And he's pretty stupid.

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Because guess what? Trump is largely right!

This apparent indictment is a joke. Not only does it face a massive uphill climb to a conviction, but it also undermines the American legal system and will likely help Trump in his campaign to be president.

Yet here's the thing – my hatred of Trump does not blind me to the reality that paying hush money is not a crime.

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No, this case is not about justice. It is about getting Trump by any means necessary – and it will backfire.

Trump's base voters believe – and not without reason – that an entrenched, unaccountable elite in Washington is out to get him. They're justified in this belief, and frankly, I become more sympathetic everyday to that sentiment.

MEGHAN MCCAIN: Liberals insist on corrupting system to get Trump... it'll make him president again | Daily Mail Online
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"George Washington University Law professor and legal scholar Jonathan Turley points out, while the prosecution may be 'politically popular' among Trump's critics, it is 'legally pathetic.'

As Turley explains it, the case faces massive hurdles. First, if prosecutors have any hope of convicting Trump they must prove that his payment to Daniels was a campaign expense, and thus, a campaign finance violation. They must convince a jury that Trump wrote the check to benefit his 2016 political campaign, and not to avoid public humiliation, save his marriage or shield his children from embarrassing revelations about their father.

It's similar to a case that federal prosecutors brought against former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards – and lost.

Second, the Manhattan district attorney likely doesn't even have jurisdiction to bring this case.

As made clear by the Edwards prosecution – campaign finance violations are federal offenses. Bragg's predecessor already rejected bringing this case on those very grounds.

Another legal heavyweight, Alan Dershowitz has also weighed in. He writes, 'After spending months searching the criminal code for a law that Mr. Trump might be accused of violating, Mr. Bragg has apparently landed on a highly questionable campaign contribution provision that has never before been used in a comparable situation."
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Another unspoken political norm and precedent about to be broken by the left. Color me surprised. Of course, like always, they assume this will never be used against a DEMOCRAT former President.
So be it.
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Trump broke every unspoken political norm and precedent, that's precisely why he was elected. It's absolutely insane for anyone to complain about norms and precedent now.
 
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#480
The whole purpose of this is to provoke a reaction that the left can use against Republicans. Don’t take the bait. Don’t do anything stupid.
 
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#481
There’s nothing to this case the communists just want the visual and the ability to say “we arrested trump”
 
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OrangeBoro said:
There’s nothing to this case the communists just want the visual and the ability to say “we arrested trump”
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Pretty funny.
Trump built his campaign around "lock her up" and "build that wall". The two biggest dog whistles ever.
 
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luthervol said:
Whoever said he was a great moral person? Certainly not me!!

I said he is more moral than Trump....and stand by that 100%.
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I gotta say, the whole hair sniffing thing...a bit creepy ...and showering with his daughter? eh, hmmmmm.

Not to mention, while Trump is no saint, there has been nothing showing he actually sold American interests for a direct payoff. Joe and family? eh, pretty darn corrupt from all thats coming out.
 
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luthervol said:
Pretty funny.
Trump built his campaign around "lock her up" and "build that wall". The two biggest dog whistles ever.
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Key difference….the Republicans never actually indicted (or even really investigated) Hillary and/or the Clinton Foundation. Because the Republicans didn’t want to cross the Rubicon that was arresting political opponents. That is Latin American banana republic territory. Not a bit surprised to see which party was the first to actually „go there“.“
We warned you when Reid eliminated the Judicial Fillibuster. You didn’t listen. We warned you when the Democrats started kicking Republicans off of House Committes. You didn’t listen. We warned you against arresting political opponents. Looks like once again…..you won’t listen. Enjoy the payback coming after 2024. Your party chose it.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Key difference….the Republicans never actually indicted (or even really investigated) Hillary and/or the Clinton Foundation. Because the Republicans didn’t want to cross the Rubicon that was arresting political opponents. That is Latin American banana republic territory. Not a bit surprised to see which party was the first to actually „go there“.“
We warned you when Reid eliminated the Judicial Fillibuster. You didn’t listen. We warned you when the Democrats started kicking Republicans off of House Committes. You didn’t listen. We warned you against arresting political opponents. Looks like once again…..you won’t listen. Enjoy the payback coming after 2024. Your party chose it.
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You didn't investigate Hillary? Are you sniffing glue?
 
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luthervol said:
You didn't investigate Hillary? Are you sniffing glue?
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Superficial Congressional committee investigation only. Not DOJ and every DA in the country. And you just ignored the overall point. Democrats once again choose the untrodden path
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Superficial Congressional committee investigation only. Not DOJ and every DA in the country. And you just ignored the overall point. Democrats once again choose the untrodden path
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It's you who ignored the point. Trump was the untrodden path.
 
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luthervol said:
Trump broke every unspoken political norm and precedent, that's precisely why he was elected. It's absolutely insane for anyone to complain about norms and precedent now.
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Lol. You have this convoluted opinion that the president of the United States is some kind of honorable man that has always upheld some kind of moral high ground. Just give it a rest. Every president is a scumbag. They are liars, cheats and morally bankrupt individuals. And no one isn’t worse than the other.

Horse s***. Dog s***. Monkey s***. It’s still s***.
 
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