The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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Septic said:
What are your thoughts on Jim Jordan?
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A POS if true..he should have spoken up about anything he knew..you have those kids sayong he knew and to other defending him....but I will say it's kinda hard to be completely oblivious to something like the going on around...my guess is if he didn't know directly he had to have some knowledge..
 
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whodeycin85 said:
A POS if true..he should have spoken up about anything he knew..you have those kids sayong he knew and to other defending him....but I will say it's kinda hard to be completely oblivious to something like the going on around...my guess is if he didn't know directly he had to have some knowledge..
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I still don’t understand how a middle aged man molests male college wrestlers for years without getting put on his ass.
 
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hog88 said:
I still don’t understand how a middle aged man molests male college wrestlers for years without getting put on his ass.
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Yea it doesn't make sense to me either..that why I said if JJ didn't have direct knowledge he had to have heard something and should have investigated..but then again how many people will do that on today society...hell of you have save someone's life nowadays your run the risk of prosecution...so what is a person to do. Doing the right thing doesn't can end up hurting you now
Didn't schiano have the same **** happen
 
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whodeycin85 said:
As an individual who advocates and helps children and some adults deal with sexual molestation, I can answer these to a degree.and know that I have read the majority of her recovery diary..
To preface remembering details of a trauma is difficult and different for everyone. Some will remember exact details other will get flashes, but it peaced together overtime. So her lack of recollection is the exact reason for the diary, to extract some memories in hopes of triggering more to heal such trauma.

So question 1. Yes its a clear reference to some sort of sexual trauma. She doesn't mention her cousin, just the household name.

Question 2. Given we don't know her exact age she is referring to other then young, this one would be equivical, because of she if referring to young as teenage ot appropriate for teenagers to be sex curious obviously..her willingness to go straight to sex is an indicator of a past sex abuse tho. And she mentions in other passages as an adult and questions often why she goes straight for sexual activities.

Question 3. Being ashamed of being turned on is a byproduct of hypersexuality..there really nothing there.,

There is a clear correlation between hypersexuality in kids and sexual abuse. Without knowing her exact age it hard to determine her development stage, but given her mention specifically of showers with Joe and thinking it's inappropriate speaks to her being closer to teen level. Old to enough to realize it inappropriate but familiar enough to still allow it to happen. Which would lead one to believe in sex abuse. Along with her addiction issues these are classic sign of sexual abuse, whether that was Joe or someone else only she knows, but we can put together context clues about Joe behavior regarding kids. The improper touching, the smelling, the strange comments, the focus on a certain age of child. Also consider Hunters issues as well, he displays those signs as well. Maybe Hunter absused her only she knows. Does that answer you question?



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Look again. Caroline is her cousin. “I remember somewhat being sexualized with Caroline.” It’s right after she says the thing about the Woolzacks house.

I’m not asking for answers for my own benefit. I don’t really think there are definite answers in all cases, because it’s such a stream of consciousness that reading it is somewhat interpretive and it is very equivocal.

Also, while I agree with your conclusions about this being evidence she was molested, I think you failed to actually answer the questions that were asked and, as a result, seem to have inflated the likelihood of a preferred outcome.

Objectively, her mention of the showers is bookended by at least 2, probably 3 other memories that are clearly examples of her hypersexuality and are not allegations of molestation (being sexualized with Caroline is arguably equivocal).

Objectively, she remembers the showers. She doesn’t remember specifics of the abuse.

Objectively, she says “probably” inappropriate which, subjectively, seems inconsistent with being diddled by your father.

Objectively, the example of hyper sexuality immediately following the showers in her stream of consciousness is that she was turned on at times that are inappropriate.

Objectively, Ashley Biden still has an outwardly good relationship with her father.

Objectively, there’s no unequivocal accusation against anybody, much less her father.

Subjectively, it’s not hard to make a case that this is more/better evidence that he didn’t molest her than it is evidence that he is someone who did.

Objectively, we agree that there’s evidence she was molested; showering with his daughter after she’s old enough to remember it is, at best, weird (with very few plausible innocent explanations); Joe is creepy in other contexts; and several of his close family have ended up exhibiting anti-social behaviors and maladaption.

Politically, there’s no world in which the good clearly outweighs the bad of “remembering showers with my dad”, but what level of genuine concern is appropriate for something that essentially boils down to “he hasn’t been accused, but we can’t rule it out?”

(Also, objectively, she grew up Catholic in the 80’s and 90’s).
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Look again. Caroline is her cousin. “I remember somewhat being sexualized with Caroline.” It’s right after she says the thing about the Woolzacks house.

I’m not asking for answers for my own benefit. I don’t really think there are definite answers in all cases, because it’s such a stream of consciousness that reading it is somewhat interpretive and it is very equivocal.

Also, while I agree with your conclusions about this being evidence she was molested, I think you failed to actually answer the questions that were asked and, as a result, seem to have inflated the likelihood of a preferred outcome.

Objectively, her mention of the showers is bookended by at least 2, probably 3 other memories that are clearly examples of her hypersexuality and are not allegations of molestation (being sexualized with Caroline is arguably equivocal).

Objectively, she remembers the showers. She doesn’t remember specifics of the abuse.

Objectively, she says “probably” inappropriate which, subjectively, seems inconsistent with being diddled by your father.

Objectively, the example of hyper sexuality immediately following the showers in her stream of consciousness is that she was turned on at times that are inappropriate.

Objectively, Ashley Biden still has an outwardly good relationship with her father.

Objectively, there’s no unequivocal accusation against anybody, much less her father.

Subjectively, it’s not hard to make a case that this is more/better evidence that he didn’t molest her than it is evidence that he is someone who did.

Objectively, we agree that there’s evidence she was molested; showering with his daughter after she’s old enough to remember it is, at best, weird (with very few plausible innocent explanations); Joe is creepy in other contexts; and several of his close family have ended up exhibiting anti-social behaviors and maladaption.

Politically, there’s no world in which the good clearly outweighs the bad of “remembering showers with my dad”, but what level of genuine concern is appropriate for something that essentially boils down to “he hasn’t been accused, but we can’t rule it out?”

(Also, objectively, she grew up Catholic in the 80’s and 90’s).
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I missed the Caroline part...I didn't realize that was her cousin..but yea there is no definite accusation that can be made, just insinuations. Honestly if I had to guess as to who abuse her if it was done, probably Hunter, that guys got some serious darkness..but he also refers to his dad a Pedo Pete so for me and obviously I carry a bias towards Biden I admit that but for me Joes behavior around kids along with this etc drive my thoughts on this, but i admit there is nothing hard that could prove anything..
 
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davethevol said:
This is hilarious if true.

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It's been confirmed by NBC "News" New York. The attorney admitted he doesn't like Trump and then discussed the case with the Judge outside of the courtroom which is supposed to be a major no no. But it's New York and this trial is strictly political so this will probably amount to nothing.

Stormy's testimony has all but guaranteed the pre-determined Guilty verdict will be overturned on appeal. Cohen's testimony should be good also considering he is the star witness and has already been convicted of lying under oath. He openly admitted to lying under oath to Congress about Trump. You couldn't have a less credible star witness if you tried.
 
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The mental gymnastics some knuckleheads on here go through to defend Trump's behavior is amusing.
Keep buying into the "martyr" syndrome propaganda he's selling, or maybe wake up, smell the coffee, and realize that his past decisions and behaviors have consequences that sometimes lead to a court of law.
 
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Engeron must be a real man of the people if he’s just lounging around in public corridors of the courthouse where he can be accosted by random parties, their attorneys, and the media…
 
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Just when you think DOJ/FBI can’t get more corrupt, they prove us all wrong.

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In other words, in their zeal to stage a phony photo using official classified cover sheets, FBI agents might have failed to accurately match the placeholder sheet with the appropriate document. This is a potentially case-blowing mistake, particularly if the document in question is one of the 34 records that represents the basis of espionage charges against Trump.

It is safe to assume Judge Cannon will not take these new revelations lightly--particularly since Bratt also had to admit in the same filing that he did not tell her the truth when she asked about the condition of the boxes during a hearing last month. On April 12, Cannon directly asked Bratt, “are the boxes in their original, intact form as seized?” Bratt replied yes, but “with one exception, and that is that the classified documents have been removed and placeholders have been put in the documents [place.]”

 
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CobbVol said:
Just when you think DOJ/FBI can’t get more corrupt, they prove us all wrong.

From the article

In other words, in their zeal to stage a phony photo using official classified cover sheets, FBI agents might have failed to accurately match the placeholder sheet with the appropriate document. This is a potentially case-blowing mistake, particularly if the document in question is one of the 34 records that represents the basis of espionage charges against Trump.

It is safe to assume Judge Cannon will not take these new revelations lightly--particularly since Bratt also had to admit in the same filing that he did not tell her the truth when she asked about the condition of the boxes during a hearing last month. On April 12, Cannon directly asked Bratt, “are the boxes in their original, intact form as seized?” Bratt replied yes, but “with one exception, and that is that the classified documents have been removed and placeholders have been put in the documents [place.]”

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Lousy rotten to the core bastards! This should be unacceptable to every individual in this country. True banana republic stuff, corruption on display in full force.
 
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CobbVol said:
Just when you think DOJ/FBI can’t get more corrupt, they prove us all wrong.

From the article

In other words, in their zeal to stage a phony photo using official classified cover sheets, FBI agents might have failed to accurately match the placeholder sheet with the appropriate document. This is a potentially case-blowing mistake, particularly if the document in question is one of the 34 records that represents the basis of espionage charges against Trump.

It is safe to assume Judge Cannon will not take these new revelations lightly--particularly since Bratt also had to admit in the same filing that he did not tell her the truth when she asked about the condition of the boxes during a hearing last month. On April 12, Cannon directly asked Bratt, “are the boxes in their original, intact form as seized?” Bratt replied yes, but “with one exception, and that is that the classified documents have been removed and placeholders have been put in the documents [place.]”

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MAGA Reaching....Reaching....Reaching....more of its effort to pretend that the gangster is not a law-breaker.....
 
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