The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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SpaceCoastVol said:
And it's will be as one of the greatest ever.
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Ah, but greatest what?

Success? Blunder?

I'm rooting for the former, I really am, but as you know am pretty convinced it will be the latter.

We ought to come up with some agreed measures (albeit tough to do) and have periodic yet hilarious wagers.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Ah, but greatest what?

Success? Blunder?

I'm rooting for the former, I really am, but as you know am pretty convinced it will be the latter.

We ought to come up with some agreed measures (albeit tough to do) and have periodic yet hilarious wagers.
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I'm hoping to end the filibuster and pack the supreme court. You know... In a reach across the aisle kind of gesture.
 
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volinbham said:
Do I understand correctly that until sentencing occurs Trump is not technically convicted?
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I believe that is correct in most jurisdictions. He is "guilty", but the conviction is not "final" until sentencing is complete. Reason being, a judge could always set aside a jury verdict, arrest judgment, or continue judgment for a period of time after conviction (as to the latter, here in NC, that is called a "Prayer for Judgment Continued" and is treated as a "get out of jail free card" - it is most often used in traffic violations to help people keep driver's licenses.) Overall, it is pretty rare to have a conviction with no judgment, but many jurisdictions do not consider a conviction a "final judgment" until sentencing is complete.

I don't know about NY. But Trump very well may have been "found guilty" of a felony while not yet being a "convicted felon."
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I'm hoping to end the filibuster and pack the supreme court. You know... In a reach across the aisle kind of gesture.
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Well, the party in power always clamors to end the fillibuster but even when they take a slight majority they seem to take a step back from the brink. Seems like a sure way to promote a blue wave in the midterms.
 
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When people say history will judge someone, I don't think much of it. Our history experts are as politicized as every other field of study. Historians don't tell the objective truth anymore.... see the war between the states
 
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lawgator1 said:
Well, the party in power always clamors to end the fillibuster but even when they take a slight majority they seem to take a step back from the brink. Seems like a sure way to promote a blue wave in the midterms.
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Why? It's what YOUR PARTY has been quite insistent on for the last 4 years.
 
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So if Judge Mecham in the NY Hush Money case agrees to drop the case before sentencing; does that mean Trump can no longer be referred to as a “convicted felon”?
 
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dalton_vol said:
When people say history will judge someone, I don't think much of it. Our history experts are as politicized as every other field of study. Historians don't tell the objective truth anymore.... see the war between the states
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Remember that Joe is still in the Top 10 greatest according these expert historians over the past 4 years. 😂
 
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