The Myth of Republican Fiscal Responsibility

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They have gall claiming to be the ones who tighten the belt.
 

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Wonder what congress looked like during the years of heavy spending/thrifty years?
 
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I've posted stuff like this before. It is also very telling how the national debt increased under Reagan, Bush, and Bush...compared with every other president combined.

Get ready to hear arguments that your graph isn't accurate because the republicans were victims of unfortunate economic circumstances and the democrats were riding high on fortunate economic circumstances created by their republican predecessors.

Actual data doesn't seem to carry much weight with most on here. Go figure.
 
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Lexvol said:
Wonder what congress looked like during the years of heavy spending/thrifty years?
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The D's controlled congress from '54 to '94 (which corresponds with the drop in debt/gdp percentage from '54 to '80). From '80 to '86 R's controlled the senate, and from '94 to '06 they controlled both houses.

Again, data doesn't seem to matter.

Just keep your eyes shut and ears covered and keep running around in circles screaming "Tax cuts work!" and "The wealthy create jobs!"...
 
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Lexvol said:
Wonder what congress looked like during the years of heavy spending/thrifty years?
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Why is it that if Bush runs the national debt up to fight terrorists that's okay, but if Obama does it to deal with a deep recession bordering on a major depression, its not?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Why is it that if Bush runs the national debt up to fight terrorists that's okay, but if Obama does it to deal with a deep recession bordering on a major depression, its not?
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. . . because it's impossible to tax and spend our way out of a recession.
 
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I love this argument. Bush blew a lot of money therefore Obama should be able to blow a bunch of money too. Riiiggghhtt.
 
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droski said:
I love this argument. Bush blew a lot of money therefore Obama should be able to blow a bunch of money too. Riiiggghhtt.
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I love this argument. Republicans claim to be fiscally responsible and when it is graphed out to show them that they aren't, they just go, well, that doesn't mean that in the future the Democrats can be as irresponsible as we have been.
 
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GAVol said:
. . . because it's impossible to tax and spend our way out of a recession.
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Even Reagen didn't CUT taxes. He neutralized them. One of the great fallacies of the American public is many believe Reagen cut taxes. He just shifted them
 
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lawgator1 said:
I love this argument. Republicans claim to be fiscally responsible and when it is graphed out to show them that they aren't, they just go, well, that doesn't mean that in the future the Democrats can be as irresponsible as we have been.
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bush was not fiscally responsible. reagan had little choice but to cut taxes with inflation at 10% and the economy in the toilet and it clearly was the correct decision. bush senior and reagen inherited a recession and therefore of course the revenue side would be lower and the deficit would be higher. clinton wasn't fiscally responsible more that he benefited from the greatest employment bubble in american history. I'd love to see this chart by deficit per the unemployment rate and pure govt spending.

the difference between reagan or bush senior and obama is that the formers decided to give money back to the people to help the economy but the latter is giving money to all his buddies that helped him get elected. i fail to see how obama's plan will help this country.
 
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truefan said:
Even Reagen didn't CUT taxes. He neutralized them. One of the great fallacies of the American public is many believe Reagen cut taxes. He just shifted them
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complete bs. he did not raise taxes on the middle class. that is ridiculous.
 
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rjd970 said:
The D's controlled congress from '54 to '94 (which corresponds with the drop in debt/gdp percentage from '54 to '80). From '80 to '86 R's controlled the senate, and from '94 to '06 they controlled both houses.

Again, data doesn't seem to matter.

Just keep your eyes shut and ears covered and keep running around in circles screaming "Tax cuts work!" and "The wealthy create jobs!"...
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Preach brother, we all know government is the answer!
 
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rjd970 said:
Just keep your eyes shut and ears covered and keep running around in circles screaming "Tax cuts work!" and "The wealthy create jobs!"...
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So, if the wealthy don't create jobs, who does?
 
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GAVol said:
So, if the wealthy don't create jobs, who does?
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They have had a very tax friendly president the last 8 years and a congress to boot for 2/3 of the time. Where are all the jobs that we are supposed to be seeing now?
 
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Back to OP, where is the historical data supporting these republican claims of fiscal responsibility?
 
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rjd970 said:
Just keep your eyes shut and ears covered and keep running around in circles screaming "Tax cuts work!" and "The wealthy create jobs!"...
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well that comment is all i need to knw about what you believe. if you want higher taxes, no one ever said you couldn't pay more. let the ones who want tax cuts have them and the ones who are for higher taxes pay what they believe they owe.
 
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rjd970 said:
They have had a very tax friendly president the last 8 years and a congress to boot for 2/3 of the time. Where are all the jobs that we are supposed to be seeing now?
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You avoided the question by trying to deflect it. If it isn't the wealthy that employ most Americans then who does?
 
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rjd970 said:
They have had a very tax friendly president the last 8 years and a congress to boot for 2/3 of the time. Where are all the jobs that we are supposed to be seeing now?
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9/11, housing collapse, banking collapse yet we are still at 8% unemployment.
 
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