The Myth of Republican Fiscal Responsibility

[KB5252]

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Right, you are nice.

That shouldn't even be mentioned in the top 100.

I did not want to be too critical, after all i would have to listen to many of those speeches again to objectively rank it. I do know it was not a great positive and inspirational speech.

 

[truefan]

Which is why I stated that I was putting those aside to be objective. I actually thought about it for a minute and looked back to compare this speech with the great speeches that inspired Americans through the generations, Obama's does not belong in the top 15 period. These are great speeches that were given by both Democrat and Republican presidents.

Please explain to me how I was not being objective here?

You are entitled to your opinion. My opinon is the quality and content were just ok, but the delivery was great. Delivery is often what inspires and motivates. I thought he did a wonderful job of it. You don't. We disagree.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

You are entitled to your opinion. My opinon is the quality and content were just ok, but the delivery was great. Delivery is often what inspires and motivates. I thought he did a wonderful job of it. You don't. We disagree.

In short, you think Hitler was good for Germany?

Forget the content, that never ever leads to any thing bad...... ever.....

 

[MG1968]

Maybe so, but you are neither smart enough nor educated enough to know whether the overall impact is positive or negative at this point.

amazing how much you think you know about me.

for someone who claims to have voted for Bush in 2000, I find it hard to believe that your personally politics have taken such a radical and hard shift to the left. Perhaps the university environment has had a negative effect on you.

Name one time in this nation's history that government spending has brought us out of an economic recession.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

amazing how much you think you know about me.

for someone who claims to have voted for Bush in 2000, I find it hard to believe that your personally politics have taken such a radical and hard shift to the left. Perhaps the university environment has had a negative effect on you.

Name one time in this nation's history that government spending has brought us out of an economic recession.

What is zero Alex.......

 

[KB5252]

You are entitled to your opinion. My opinon is the quality and content were just ok, but the delivery was great. Delivery is often what inspires and motivates. I thought he did a wonderful job of it. You don't. We disagree.

fair enough. I give quality an ok, content was lacking for me, America needed to hear everything was going to be ok (even if it wasn't true, the great presidents do this when the country needs to hear it). Delivery was ok, I just think he missed a great opportunity to communicate his vision to the American people and sell them, IMO this goes hand in hand with delivery.

Just my attempt to objectively critique his speech.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

fair enough. I give quality an ok, content was lacking for me, America needed to hear everything was going to be ok (even if it wasn't true, the great presidents do this when the country needs to hear it). Delivery was ok, I just think he missed a great opportunity to communicate his vision to the American people and sell them, IMO this goes hand in hand with delivery.

Just my attempt to objectively critique his speech.

Don't worry about truefan................ he had a new rosey smelling jergens last night during the speech.

You cut is correct except that you are to nice.

 

[truefan]

amazing how much you think you know about me.
for someone who claims to have voted for Bush in 2000, I find it hard to believe that your personally politics have taken such a radical and hard shift to the left. Perhaps the university environment has had a negative effect on you.
Name one time in this nation's history that government spending has brought us out of an economic recession.[/QUOTE]

I would say that to anyone making such a statement. I really don't have to know anything about the author.

I did vote for Bush in 2000 and for Reagen in 1984. It may just mean I am little more objective than most of the posters in here. There is no evidence I have moved hard to the left. That is your take. You have nothing to support it other than I disagree with your politics. The university enviroment has had little effect on my politics. I have been a moderate democrat all of my life. Most of the students here are republicans. Most of the professors are far left. I am neither

Please show me a post where I am touting government spending as the sole means to economic recovery. Guess what? I haven't made such a post. I do feel in some cases of this current situation, we have no choice but to try it. Infrastructure investment is one I will argue for all day long. It speaks for itself.

Now, the facts seem to swing that YOU are the one who seems to think he knows the other too well.

 

[VolByBirth]

you don't get it. In order for the government to get that kind of money they have to do three things, tax, print or borrow. Since raising taxes during a recession is a guaranteed way to make it worse, the money has to be printed or borrowed. Printing the money will have the end result be hyper inflation, and borrowing the money will just create the same problem further down the road.

While there is much more to it than exactly what you are saying (since our currency is relative to other currencies and this is a global recession), I understand your point -- spending is bad.

However, my point is that we don't have a choice and the money MUST be spent for any chance of economic recovery -- regardless of the arguments on where/how/when it is spent. By what I'm gathering from your statement, you would assume -- don't spend anything -- which would lead to an epic crash of our financial systems (for all it's mismanagement, the TARP money was absolutely necessary). So we can sit back and not put any money into the system and not have to worry about hyperinflation or raising taxes -- but our concerns with the financial market ramifications would be far greater.