AM64
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If they want to get to the bottom of fast and furious they need to go back to the Bush Admin. The bottom of that scandal was probably documented in some of the millions of emails the Bush Administration destroyed. I don't remember Fox reporting on it.They damn sure didn’t get to the bottom of Fast and Furious.
The guns stopped at the border during the Bush administration because they were smart enough to keep those weapons out of the hands of the cartels. But keep thinking what you think.If they want to get to the bottom of fast and furious they need to go back to the Bush Admin. The bottom of that scandal was probably documented in some of the millions of emails the Bush Administration destroyed. I don't remember Fox reporting on it.
I'm sure you can provide a link from fox, right?The guns stopped at the border during the Bush administration because they were smart enough to keep those weapons out of the hands of the cartels. But keep thinking what you think.
You’re right. Operation Wide Receiver was just as ill conceived and executed as Fast and Furious. The key difference as far as I can tell is that no weapons allowed to walk into Mexico under OWR were used to murder a US Border Patrol Agent.I'm sure you can provide a link from fox, right?
The first known ATF "gunwalking" operation to Mexican drug cartels, named Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into late 2007. Licensed dealer Mike Detty of Mad Dawg Global informed the ATF of a suspicious gun purchase that took place in February 2006 in Tucson, Arizona. In March, he was hired as a confidential informant working with the ATF's Tucson office, part of their Phoenix, Arizona field division.[33]
With the use of surveillance equipment, ATF agents monitored additional sales by Detty to straw purchasers. With assurance from ATF "that Mexican officials would be conducting surveillance or interdictions when guns got to the other side of the border",[13] Detty would sell a total of about 450 guns during the operation.[32] These included AR-15s, semi-automatic AK-pattern rifles, and Colt .38s. The majority of the guns were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico
only 64 of the 474 guns had actually been seized.
I bet you didn't know any of this.
You’re right. Operation Wide Receiver was just as ill conceived and executed as Fast and Furious. The key difference as far as I can tell is that no weapons allowed to walk into Mexico under OWR were used to murder a US Border Patrol Agent.
Then you have Eric Holder lying before Congress.
I don’t watch FNC either. But, Holder should have been held accountable. A contempt of Congress citation was little more than a slap on the wrist.Yep, It just happen to blow up on Obama and the Right Wing Media wasn't going to miss an opportunity to blame him. I don't watch FOX and I knew about the "scandal".
His kid 1 year out of school who shares his same Stalinist beliefs already knows,more than you do. He told me the same thing.Ok fair enough and as long as she’s got some senior CE’s she trusts for advice she should have it covered. I can’t imagine a CE path that doesn’t stress the PE license but it isn’t my field
I think I figured it out.
Trump is covered in slime and no matter how complicit his followers are, there will be no end to his wrongdoings being uncovered, investigated, and publicized.
Is that it?
My second guess is that Trump has so completely established himself as the republican party that all of the republicans who made the painfully self-centered decision to pick Trump over conviction are now left to live and die by his presidency and now must protect him at all costs.
Probably a combination of the two.
Loother you are........well, I don't know what you are. But you do you bud. I am sure that your CE one year out of GT has her entire career mapped out and knows better than folks that have walked the path ahead of her. Good on ya.What is the purpose of this post?
Other than showing what a petty and fragile person you must be.
According to @Septic your argument is invalid. You need to discuss Fast and Furious without bringing up Bush.If they want to get to the bottom of fast and furious they need to go back to the Bush Admin. The bottom of that scandal was probably documented in some of the millions of emails the Bush Administration destroyed. I don't remember Fox reporting on it.