The Official NASCAR Talk Thread

[Fun coupon VOL]

So my clarification was more about clearing out the grey area that would likely develop. Most certainly you would agree that there is a degree of difference between caressing the wall at Darlington and what Chastain did.

Again, I’m not mad at what Ross did, quite the opposite, I was howling with laughter. I just don’t have an interest in having a bunch of cars do this every other race.

You can’t do that every race and it benefit you. There is such a speed difference between riding the wall and the preferred line at martinsville, that it makes the payoff extreme.

That won’t be the case at Atlanta, Charlotte, Dover. Gearing is another issue.

 

[Through_The_T]

I think NASCAR has to make a rule against what Chastain did to protect drivers against themselves. Something like that at Charlotte or Atlanta can get someone killed. While a brilliant move today, I think it will be a problem unless addressed by the rules committee…

 

[gordonr24]

Chastain’s move today was brilliant, but he acknowledged that it was borderline idiotic and potentially hazardous. I’d be shocked if a rule isn’t implemented. But when it is, everyone will remember why the rule was put into place, and Chastain will have a face in NASCAR history.

 

[ATC_VOL]

I’m a Hamlin fan, but I have to give props to Chastain. It was a brilliant move and well-executed.

Same here. Bummed but hard to be mad at that. Creative thinking on the fly.

 

[Nerd-Vol]

Y’all have me pondering what tracks would be best suited for this move.

Bristol, Gateway, Richmond. Maybe NHMS?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

So my clarification was more about clearing out the grey area that would likely develop. Most certainly you would agree that there is a degree of difference between caressing the wall at Darlington and what Chastain did.

Again, I’m not mad at what Ross did, quite the opposite, I was howling with laughter. I just don’t have an interest in having a bunch of cars do this every other race.

Just my thoughts, but there are only a few tracks where that would work anyways. We know Darlington, Martinsville, Richmond, maybe Bristol........ if a driver tries that at any of the intermediate tracks or super speedways theyre just asking for something bad to happen. Even Ross admitted it was silly, if he hits the turn 4 access gate head on, hes probably in the hospital or worse.

My complaint is the car, if this car came apart like others have in the past, and this one should, nobody would think about doing that, the car wouldve been in pieces and not even made it around the turn. I saw photos of the car after the race, and the right side didnt look bad at all for how hard Ross hit the wall and how long he rode it.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Y’all have me pondering what tracks would be best suited for this move.

Bristol, Gateway, Richmond. Maybe NHMS?

I think the short tracks for sure, but the intermediate tracks are way too dangerous, and dont even think about doing it at a SS unless you have a death wish.

 

[gordonr24]

Y’all have me pondering what tracks would be best suited for this move.

Bristol, Gateway, Richmond. Maybe NHMS?

Two drivers actually died from hitting the wall without brakes at NHMS within a year roughly 2 decades ago: Kenny Irwin and Adam Petty.

 

[steve328]

Loved it, was pulling for Chastain. Have been all year (but I will admit it's been rough at times). I think there will be some kind of rule to prevent what he did in the future. There are tracks where someone would get hurt. Sure was fun to watch, though.

 

[YankeeVol]

 

[robbymoore94]

I’m not sure how I feel about it really. I’m all for a Hail Mary/slide job for a win, but wall riding just doesn’t sit well with me for some reason. He was the better part of 2 seconds faster that lap than most everyone else’s fastest laps (18.xxx to 20.xxx). That was more luck (lucky he didn’t eat the gate) than skill. I’m not sure it is effective anywhere else. I don’t see it working at 1.5 mile tracks or longer as they are already on throttle a lot at those places. Kudos to him because it worked. I have a bad feeling it will catch someone at a short track (non top tier) and get them hurt before it would an upper tier division. That’s just me though.

 

[jbeeman85]

I think it pretty much only works at Martinsville. The other short tracks, you do not slow down enough in the corners to get that much of a "boost." And it will also only work on the last lap as an actual move that will accomplish anything.

I can see it becoming a move a few will take on the last lap at Martinsville for a win or as in Chastain's case at the cutoff race to make the final 4.

I do not get how the move is "embarrassing." Maybe the Sports Car drivers or F1 only people will hate it but hearing a lot of them talk, they do not respect NASCAR anyway so who cares what they think ?

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

To all the whiners(including drivers), f everyone of you. That was awesome and took a big set of balls.

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

I think NASCAR has to make a rule against what Chastain did to protect drivers against themselves. Something like that at Charlotte or Atlanta can get someone killed. While a brilliant move today, I think it will be a problem unless addressed by the rules committee…

I’m sorry, but this is a terrible take. Stop limiting the drivers and teams.

The drivers know the risk and it is their call. They don’t need protecting. If you want to do it, that is on you as a driver.

Such a cookie cutter sport now with no room for experimentation, that we have to have moves like that to drive up interest in the sport.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

So, hindsight is always 20/20, but with the BK DQ the move doesn't matter anyways. Chastain would've gotten 2 more points from the DQ and been in anyways.

 

[Nerd-Vol]

So, hindsight is always 20/20, but with the BK DQ the move doesn't matter anyways. Chastain would've gotten 2 more points from the DQ and been in anyways.

I honestly think it was good that it was settled on the track. Plus, it’s been a while since the sport was getting good publicity on this scale.


I’m still laughing about the move. It’s the giant dust cloud that does it for me.

 

[Through_The_T]

I’m sorry, but this is a terrible take. Stop limiting the drivers and teams.

The drivers know the risk and it is their call. They don’t need protecting. If you want to do it, that is on you as a driver.

Such a cookie cutter sport now with no room for experimentation, that we have to have moves like that to drive up interest in the sport.

You say it’s a terrible take and then put this sentence out there. I bet the HANS device and roll cages are just “sissifying” the sport to you? What a load of garbage.

 

[ATC_VOL]

So, hindsight is always 20/20, but with the BK DQ the move doesn't matter anyways. Chastain would've gotten 2 more points from the DQ and been in anyways.

Correct. Would have sucked even more for the 11 to miss out that way than how he did I think.

 

[95 Vol Alum]

I honestly think it was good that it was settled on the track. Plus, it’s been a while since the sport was getting good publicity on this scale.


I’m still laughing about the move. It’s the giant dust cloud that does it for me.

It looks like a cartoon scene.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

You say it’s a terrible take and then put this sentence out there. I bet the HANS device and roll cages are just “sissifying” the sport to you? What a load of garbage.

Keeping a driver from making a move (wall riding) has nothing to do with improving safety within the car.

 

[Through_The_T]

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[Nerd-Vol]

This is the super-cut I’ve been needing.

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

This is the super-cut I’ve been needing.

The view from the cars as he goes around is gold.

 

[jbeeman85]

This is the super-cut I’ve been needing.

Logano was one of the ones saying a rule should be made against it. His radio seemed like he thought it was pretty awesome.