The official Spencer Tilman is an ahole thread

#26
#26
I was thinking.... Spencer Tillman talking about progressive offenses and passing games, etc. ..... He played for Oklahoma from 1983-1986 under Barry Switzer.... in the wishbone offense.... let's see where their passing game was:

1983 73-of-170 (43%) for 1,332 yards
1984 87-of-192 (46%) for 1,295 yards
1985 57-of-117 (49%) for 1,094 yards
1986 40-of-93 (44%) for 805 yards
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I see he draws on his years of experience in a passing offense? ;)

He was quite successful in the NFL too: In 8 NFL seasons, he rushed for a robust 179 yards and 1 TD.... and if you thought he was more of a receiving threat... since he talks about passing offenses so much... he had 7 yards on 3 receptions. :question:
 
#28
#28
So, in the end, it really doesn't matter why he won't embrace the notion of developing a more sophisticated scheme, the fact is they don't have or choose not to implement one. And as an analyst, my job is to say what I see. And what I see is an early eighties approach offensively.
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Funny, I don't ever remember ANY of the networks bashing Tom Osborne for running an early eighties offense. Well, Nebraska has finally installed a more sophisticated scheme, and look where it has gotten them. Thanks, but no thanks. CPF uses the talent he has as well as any coach in the country. When the talent dictates, a la Peyton Manning and a fleet of NFL caliber recievers, then he will open it up a bit. But CPF is an offensive lineman, and the power running game is his bread and butter. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. To me, a 10 win average dosen't seem to be broken. Just my :twocents:
 
#29
#29
Unfortunately Spencer was right. Our propensity to make predictable goaline/short yardage calls is legendary. Remember '03 Georgia game in K-town? CPF's post game comment about that call, "we've had alot of success around here for years with that play." Wonder if UGA had any idea what was coming?
 
#30
#30
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 17, 2004 3:40 PM
Unfortunately Spencer was right. Our propensity to make predictable goaline/short yardage calls is legendary. Remember '03 Georgia game in K-town? CPF's post game comment about that call, "we've had alot of success around here for years with that play." Wonder if UGA had any idea what was coming?
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If my memory serves me correct, Troy Fleming knocked the ball out of Clausen's hand... not the Georgia defense. Had the clean handoff been made... I have not doubt that the Vols go into the locker room up 14-13. I don't see where coaching has anything to do with the play you brought up. I've never seen another team stop that play. Only a miscue by the Vols own offense could stop it.
 
#31
#31
Hey Don - remember the '03 game against Miami? 4th and goal and we ran Tinsley on an inside handoff from the slot to score the go ahead touchdown.

But then again - that probably didn't surprise you since I'm sure that's what you would have done too . . .
 
#32
#32
In deepest respect to you ALLVOL that handoff was intercepted by UGA's defensive star David Pollack. He was quoted post game as to knowing exactly where that play was going BEFORE the snap. And as a side note, that particular play was stopped by ND on fourth down in our last game, that play has been dead in the water for us over the last few years. :nono:
 
#33
#33
Once again GAVOL your wrong again. They faked that play to the inside and Fleming took the handoff on a end around to the pylon. In fact he took the pylon out of the ground as he entered the end zone. That play went to the right side of the field heading towards the south endzone to be exact. :D
 
#34
#34
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 17, 2004 4:56 PM
In deepest respect to you ALLVOL that handoff was intercepted by UGA's defensive star David Pollack. He was quoted post game as to knowing exactly where that play was going BEFORE the snap. And as a side note, that particular play was stopped by ND on fourth down in our last game, that play has been dead in the water for us over the last few years. :nono:
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I don't think that's right Don. I remember Pollack's comment, but Troy Flemming clearly knocked it out of Clausen's hands with his thigh pad on the way by to be the lead blocker.

While it's true that Pollack's motor never stops running . . . he did not cause the fumble.
 
#35
#35
IF Fleming knocked the ball out of Clausens hand it was because of 1) Pollack knew where the play was going and 2) he was 5 yards deep in our backfield having blown our right tackle UP. This whole topic validates my FIVE year old arguement about our OC's poor playcalling, running directly at UGA's best player and Peytonfans comments on the home page. His validations are similar to my first post earlier this year. Our blocking schemes are outdated, playcalling predictable and better yet poor
 
#36
#36
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 17, 2004 5:02 PM
Once again GAVOL your wrong again. They faked that play to the inside and Fleming took the handoff on a end around to the pylon. In fact he took the pylon out of the ground as he entered the end zone. That play went to the right side of the field heading towards the south endzone to be exact. :D
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Quit trying to screw with my head. :rolleyes:

Your memory can't be this bad . . . and if you're going to make up a fake scoring play - please remember in the future that it's very difficult for the fullback to score on an end around.
 
#37
#37
GAVOL I WAS STANDING 15 YARDS FROM THAT PYLON THAT FLEW OUT OUT THE CORNER OF THE ENDZONE . ONE OF THE 117 CONSECUTIVE GAMES I SAW IN PERSON! :nono:
 
#38
#38
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 17, 2004 5:17 PM
IF Fleming knocked the ball out of Clausens hand it was because of 1) Pollack knew where the play was going and 2) he was 5 yards deep in our backfield having blown our right tackle UP.
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:dlol:

So now in your revisionist account, Pollack has gone from intercepting the handoff to merely intimidating the lead blocker into running into the QB.
 
#39
#39
I remember the play very vividly... Pollack is full of himself... Fleming was out of position and knocked the ball out of Clausen's hand. The dive over the top is unstoppable unless the linebacker times his jump perfectly and 'hopes' to knock the running back backwards. Had the handoff had been clean, Pollack would have had a nice view from the 5-yard line as Davis was celebrating in the endzone.

You are also wrong regarding the Notre Dame game. Riggs ran off tackle. It was NOT the dive over the top. Had the Vols run the dive over the top play with Davis or anybody, I'm confident they would have gotten the 1st down.

In short yardage situations, I would rather the Vols be strong enough to run up the middle and get 1 or 2 yards regardless if the other team knows it or not. Its called power football. We don't use ballerinas as running backs last time I checked and the SEC hasn't turned into the pass happy WAC either.
 
#40
#40
AND ALSO GAVOL IF YOU CHECK YOUR VOL DATA BANK THAT TD AGAINST THE U WAS SCORED BY DERRICK TINSLEY. GET OFF ME!
 
#41
#41
It was Tinsley.

Scoring Summary:
1st 05:57 MIAMI - PEATTIE, Jon 31 yd field goal, 11-61 4:53, UT 0 - MIAMI 3
2nd 12:52 UT - James Wilhoit 41 yd field goal, 5-18 2:02, UT 3 - MIAMI 3
    00:20 UT - Derrick Tinsley 2 yd run (James Wilhoit kick), 15-73 9:19, UT 10 - MIAMI 3
3rd 10:24 MIAMI - PEATTIE, Jon 22 yd field goal, 9-75 4:36, UT 10 - MIAMI 6
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And here's the photo to prove it too.

tinsley-110803-lg.jpg
 
#42
#42
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 17, 2004 5:26 PM
GAVOL I WAS STANDING 15 YARDS FROM THAT PYLON THAT FLEW OUT OUT THE CORNER OF THE ENDZONE . ONE OF THE 117 CONSECUTIVE GAMES I SAW IN PERSON! :nono:
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Don, I don't care if you were ref who signalled the touchdown - you are wrong! There was only one TD in the whole game and Tinsley scored it.

Here's a link:



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By the way - your caps lock is on.IT WAS TINSLEY DAMMIT
 
#43
#43
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 17, 2004 5:33 PM
AND ALSO GAVOL IF YOU CHECK YOUR VOL DATA BANK THAT TD AGAINST THE U WAS SCORED BY DERRICK TINSLEY. GET OFF ME!
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You said it was Fleming in your previous posts?

Once again GAVOL your wrong again. They faked that play to the inside and Fleming took the handoff on a end around to the pylon. In fact he took the pylon out of the ground as he entered the end zone. That play went to the right side of the field heading towards the south endzone to be exact.
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GAVOL I WAS STANDING 15 YARDS FROM THAT PYLON THAT FLEW OUT OUT THE CORNER OF THE ENDZONE . ONE OF THE 117 CONSECUTIVE GAMES I SAW IN PERSON!
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#44
#44
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 17, 2004 5:33 PM
AND ALSO GAVOL IF YOU CHECK YOUR VOL DATA BANK THAT TD AGAINST THE U WAS SCORED BY DERRICK TINSLEY. GET OFF ME!
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Glad you finally see it my way. :D
 
#46
#46
hey gavol ,I don't recall using the word "intimidating" in my description our right tackle getting blown up, knowing where that play was going, and the cause of that disastrous play. You must be an attorney or an speak the language of Bill Clinton or John Kerry.
 
#48
#48
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 17, 2004 5:50 PM
I was misquoted because ALLVOL's post said it was Fleming. I got my posts mixed up of who said what.
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Don't start blaming me... My posts were referring to Fleming knocking the ball out of Clausen's hands against Georgia.

GAVol posted about Tinsley's TD against Miami.

Then you told him that Fleming scored against Miami.

I don't think you were misquoted.

The good thing about message boards is that its easy to go back and read what was actually written. :idea:
 
#49
#49
Misquoted!?! Now who sounds like Bill Clinton??? :eek:lol:

Let's move on to the next thread. :peace:
 
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