The Official Tennessee Titans thread IV

#44,576
#44,576
PlanetVolunteer said:
Bowers over Nabers by 100000000000

I cant believe that there would even be a question.

How are generational TE's less coveted than WR's? Good receivers are 10× easier to find.
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TEs are hard to evaluate. We all thought Atlanta was getting a generational TE and it didn’t happen.
 
#44,577
#44,577
Vol8188 said:
TEs are hard to evaluate. We all thought Atlanta was getting a generational TE and it didn’t happen.
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Lol

Brock Bowers is the biggest no brainer ever. Pitts was basically just a receiver at Florida. Dude was split out wide the entire time. Completely different players.

Brock Bowers was pancaking Bammers in the 21 Natty as a true freshman. Second team all american as a true freshman.

Our franchise sucks at receivers, but we have two studs on the roster already. We can get good receivers in the second or 3rd round. Or next year! Receivers are a dime a dozen. Brock can block, carry the ball, elite receiving skills etc.

I hate that he's a Bulldog, but it's the truth.

You wanna know why we beat the Chiefs in the 2017 playoffs?

Travis Kelce got hurt. The only reason we won, they would have blown us out if he didn't get hurt.

Who did the Chiefs keep? Tyreek Hill or Tarvis Kelce?

Travis Kelce. Why? More valuable. Blocking and receiving.

Having a guy like Bowers would be sooo valuable for Levis. Safety blanket, elite weapon. Chig is just ok.

I am perplexed at how TE's aren't valued near as much. It's absurd.
 
#44,581
#44,581
PlanetVolunteer said:
Lol

Brock Bowers is the biggest no brainer ever. Pitts was basically just a receiver at Florida. Dude was split out wide the entire time. Completely different players.

Brock Bowers was pancaking Bammers in the 21 Natty as a true freshman. Second team all american as a true freshman.

Our franchise sucks at receivers, but we have two studs on the roster already. We can get good receivers in the second or 3rd round. Or next year! Receivers are a dime a dozen. Brock can block, carry the ball, elite receiving skills etc.

I hate that he's a Bulldog, but it's the truth.

You wanna know why we beat the Chiefs in the 2017 playoffs?

Travis Kelce got hurt. The only reason we won, they would have blown us out if he didn't get hurt.

Who did the Chiefs keep? Tyreek Hill or Tarvis Kelce?

Travis Kelce. Why? More valuable. Blocking and receiving.

Having a guy like Bowers would be sooo valuable for Levis. Safety blanket, elite weapon. Chig is just ok.

I am perplexed at how TE's aren't valued near as much. It's absurd.
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I'm in on Bowers at #7. I am also in with Alt, Harrison, Nabers. Somehow I want Bowers, This org needs to recognize the high value of a non-joker, high end TE. Gronk and now Kelce all those years have showed the football world. Kittle and others as well. Elite TE's who can run routes like WR's and block well are wild cards that are trouble to defend. I am just not sure he will be there at #7.

But a LT lock for a decade is also too good to pass up if they judge Alt as that guy. Harrison and Nabers are special with both ready to take over the role when D-Hop goes or there is an injury this year.

Tough decision to make with a lot of moving parts leading up to it. If they come away with any of those I am good with it. I am also good with trading back because the OT class is loaded. Would love to load up some picks and take some value guys.
 
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#44,583
#44,583
PlanetVolunteer said:
Lol

Brock Bowers is the biggest no brainer ever. Pitts was basically just a receiver at Florida. Dude was split out wide the entire time. Completely different players.

Brock Bowers was pancaking Bammers in the 21 Natty as a true freshman. Second team all american as a true freshman.

Our franchise sucks at receivers, but we have two studs on the roster already. We can get good receivers in the second or 3rd round. Or next year! Receivers are a dime a dozen. Brock can block, carry the ball, elite receiving skills etc.

I hate that he's a Bulldog, but it's the truth.

You wanna know why we beat the Chiefs in the 2017 playoffs?

Travis Kelce got hurt. The only reason we won, they would have blown us out if he didn't get hurt.

Who did the Chiefs keep? Tyreek Hill or Tarvis Kelce?

Travis Kelce. Why? More valuable. Blocking and receiving.

Having a guy like Bowers would be sooo valuable for Levis. Safety blanket, elite weapon. Chig is just ok.

I am perplexed at how TE's aren't valued near as much. It's absurd.
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Your entire argument from top to bottom is so far off base that it’s scary. Kelce doesn’t have more value than Hill, that’s why they kept Kelce. Because his value is about 60% that of Hill and they couldn’t afford both. So they took the cheaper option.

What’s really weird about your argument is you seem to start by asking why TEs aren’t thought of as highly as WRs are. I’m assuming you’re asking this because both are very valuable in the passing game.

Which is weird because then you dismissed Pitts as just a WR…..Pitts was taller, faster, heavier, bigger hands, longer arms. If anyone appeared to be a no brainer, it would be Pitts. Bowers may work out, but I wouldn’t say he’s more of a no Brainer than the faster guy, better WR, who was taller and ran better
 
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#44,584
Vol8188 said:
Your entire argument from top to bottom is so far off base that it’s scary. Kelce doesn’t have more value than Hill, that’s why they kept Kelce. Because his value is about 60% that of Hill and they couldn’t afford both. So they took the cheaper option.

What’s really weird about your argument is you seem to start by asking why TEs aren’t thought of as highly as WRs are. I’m assuming you’re asking this because both are very valuable in the passing game.

Which is weird because then you dismissed Pitts as just a WR…..Pitts was taller, faster, heavier, bigger hands, longer arms. If anyone appeared to be a no brainer, it would be Pitts. Bowers may work out, but I wouldn’t say he’s more of a no Brainer than the faster guy, better WR, who was taller and ran better
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It's indisputable that Kelce is more valuable to their TEAM. That's what I meant. Hill was replaceable, Kelce was not. Kelce is a first ballot hall of fame. Hill probably won't be. Hill got open, partly from the attention Kelce receives.

Pitts lineup wide in FL's offense over half the time and they used him to exploit mismatches down the field. They ARE completely different players and the systems they played in are different. Spread vs Pro Style. It's also dumb that Pitts is totally dismissed. He just hasn't been dominant, which isn't surprising because...he's a tweener receiving TE.

It is INSANE to say Pitts is more of a no brainer 😂 he can't BLOCK dude 🤣

Bowers had more receiving yards, receptions, yards after catch, best graded in PFF, best at running the ball than any TE since 2014. Elite blocker and has better hands.

3 time all american (only TE to ever do it)

2 time Mackey award winner (only one to ever do it)

Pitts is a freak, but so is Bowers, who can actually do everything.
 
#44,585
#44,585
PlanetVolunteer said:
It's indisputable that Kelce is more valuable to their TEAM. That's what I meant. Hill was replaceable, Kelce was not. Kelce is a first ballot hall of fame. Hill probably won't be. Hill got open, partly from the attention Kelce receives.

Pitts lineup wide in FL's offense over half the time and they used him to exploit mismatches down the field. They ARE completely different players and the systems they played in are different. Spread vs Pro Style. It's also dumb that Pitts is totally dismissed. He just hasn't been dominant, which isn't surprising because...he's a tweener receiving TE.

It is INSANE to say Pitts is more of a no brainer 😂 he can't BLOCK dude 🤣

Bowers had more receiving yards, receptions, yards after catch, best graded in PFF, best at running the ball than any TE since 2014. Elite blocker and has better hands.

3 time all american (only TE to ever do it)

2 time Mackey award winner (only one to ever do it)

Pitts is a freak, but so is Bowers, who can actually do everything.
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Surely you’re not convinced the value of a TE is their ability to block? That’s where you’re most off base here.

You started by questioning why WRs are more valued, now you’re talking about run blocking? It seems your answer here is self evident.

The reason Hill makes more than Kelce, the reason WRs are drafted higher than TEs, the reason Pitts went higher than Bowers will, is all the same reason….and it’s not run blocking
 
#44,586
#44,586
Vol8188 said:
Surely you’re not convinced the value of a TE is their ability to block? That’s where you’re most off base here.

You started by questioning why WRs are more valued, now you’re talking about run blocking? It seems your answer here is self evident.

The reason Hill makes more than Kelce, the reason WRs are drafted higher than TEs, the reason Pitts went higher than Bowers will, is all the same reason….and it’s not run blocking
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Um yeah I listed why prospects like Bowers...well he is alone in his prestige, should be valued more.

The NFL is being dumb by underrating him. As we have seen, elite TE's are just as important and sometimes more reliable than WR's.

There are elite, freak receivers that come out of every draft and in Bowers case they literally point to ONE guy, Pitts as the other freak that has come out of college.

There are no other Pitts or Bowers on the docket. There are a handful of Nabers level guys every year.
 
#44,591
#44,591
PlanetVolunteer said:
Bowers over Nabers by 100000000000

I cant believe that there would even be a question.

How are generational TE's less coveted than WR's? Good receivers are 10× easier to find.
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1st round TE's have a horrible ROI track record.i think out of 11 taken only 1 made his second contract with same team.

Receivers taken in the first round hit more often statistically, but even they only hit around 40-something percent.
 
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#44,593
#44,593
Jax_Vol said:
No, I think the Titans fanbase would love Bowers.

We loved D Henry and he was from Bama.

But, if you can back up five spots for an extra first rounder plus two additional top-150 guys, that would work.

Realize that Bronco thing is just click bait.
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I’ve learned the older I get that it’s okay to appreciate a players talent outside of the orange and white. Younger me wanted my Titans to draft all the Vol players lol
 
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#44,597
KB5252 said:
Listened to an NFL films guy who says there not much difference between a first round LT in this draft and a third round guy. Says it's very deep and he likes some of those lower projected guys traits better than Alt's.
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I don’t mind Nabors knowing Dhop is gone next year, but we would need to trade that Arkansas WR
 
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#44,598
#44,598
Vol8188 said:
As much as I love the idea, I think the price is likely far too steep in terms of draft capital
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Also here’s the thing: most teams realize they don’t have to trade superstars or best players at positions just because the player says they want a trade.
 
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