The Official Tennessee vs. Georgia Game Thread, 8pm ET, ESPN3

#476
#476
ranradVOL said:
Absolutely. But that's why he gets minutes. All I was trying to explain to Bleeding.
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yes i get why he gets minutes i never said he should see 0 minutes, show me where i said this. i understand why he is out there but like other posters just pointed out, when he is out there to stretch the d and shoots 25% he is not doing his job.

also thank you ZJC for making my next point, the guy is shooting 30% in sec play. seriously? this is someone you want to argue and say is a great 3 point shooter? the fact is we dont have a dead eye shooter anymore its as simple as that.
 
#477
#477
bleedingTNorange said:
40% is a good percent for an all around player not a 3 point specialist who can do nothing else, and besides skylar is now at 39%, seriously? what do you think guys like jenkins, lofton, reddick shot from 3?

and yes im referring to woolridge shooting a better % from 3 than skylar. no i am not saying woolridge is someone i want shooting 8 3's a game i have already said this, but it should tell you something if his % is better than mcbee's, its not like woolridge has only shot a couple 3's either. what you should take from this is that if you cant hit at 45% or around there then you dont need to fire away like skylar does.


your really satisfied with a 39% 3 point shooter who contributes nothing else offensively?
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If he's your best bet to stretch the D and allow Maymon to do work, then yes he has to be out there. No one else is a threat.
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#478
#478
bleedingTNorange said:
yes i get why he gets minutes i never said he should see 0 minutes, show me where i said this. i understand why he is out there but like other posters just pointed out, when he is out there to stretch the d and shoots 25% he is not doing his job.

also thank you ZJC for making my next point, the guy is shooting 30% in sec play. seriously? this is someone you want to argue and say is a great 3 point shooter? the fact is we dont have a dead eye shooter anymore its as simple as that.
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When did I say he was great? Please tell me.

I simply said he got minutes to stretch the D, and this is a fact. Because, as you've already stated, he brings nothing else.
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#479
#479
King Webbsticles said:
McBee is shooting ~35% in his career at UT from 3.

Woolridge is shooting ~31% in his career at UT.


McBee has ~80 more attempts.
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i was referring to this year...

when you break down their minutes woolridge averages pretty close to the amount of 3's per minute played as skylar does. skylar plays more minutes so yes he will have more attempts from 3, let me be clear, NO IM NOT SAYING I SUGGEST WOOLRIDGE BE THE GUY WE PLAY WHO IS SUPPOSED TO STRETCH THE D. MY POINT SIMPLY WAS THE GUY WE ARE USING ISNT EVEN SHOOTING THAT GREAT FROM 3, AND I DONT KNOW HOW THAT CAN BE ARGUED.
 
#481
#481
ranradVOL said:
If he's your best bet to stretch the D and allow Maymon to do work, then yes he has to be out there. No one else is a threat.
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How much does he really stretch a defense though? He's not going to create his own shot and he's got to be wide open to take a shot because he doesn't have the speed or size to squeeze one off with a defender closing out on him.
 
#482
#482
ranradVOL said:
If he's your best bet to stretch the D and allow Maymon to do work, then yes he has to be out there. No one else is a threat.
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I agree with that, i was just pointing out that right now he isnt doing a good enough job, especially considering alot of his look are pretty wide open.
 
#483
#483
GAVol said:
How much does he really stretch a defense though? He's not going to create his own shot and he's got to be wide open to take a shot because he doesn't have the speed or size to squeeze one off with a defender closing out on him.
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Not too mention he doesn't have a quick release, so you can be a little late on a closeout and still affect the shot.
 
#484
#484
ranradVOL said:
When did I say he was great? Please tell me.

I simply said he got minutes to stretch the D, and this is a fact. Because, as you've already stated, he brings nothing else.
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im sorry you said he's the best which is debatable as we've already done...

and yes he gets minutes to stretch the D but when he is shooting 30% from 3 during sec play how much is he really stretching the D?
 
#485
#485
bleedingTNorange said:
i was referring to this year...

when you break down their minutes woolridge averages pretty close to the amount of 3's per minute played as skylar does. skylar plays more minutes so yes he will have more attempts from 3, let me be clear, NO IM NOT SAYING I SUGGEST WOOLRIDGE BE THE GUY WE PLAY WHO IS SUPPOSED TO STRETCH THE D. MY POINT SIMPLY WAS THE GUY WE ARE USING ISNT EVEN SHOOTING THAT GREAT FROM 3, AND I DONT KNOW HOW THAT CAN BE ARGUED.
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He's shooting 40%!!!!

Good god man, that's not a horrible %.

What did Lee Humphreys shoot for Florida in the same role on a NC winning team?

45%!!!
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#486
#486
King Webbsticles said:
I'm agreeing with you.

I don't see the extra 4% in 3 point shooting making up for McBee's lack of defense or other offensive ability.
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gotcha wasnt sure where you were going with that. yea the fact he is out there for one thing and one thing only and he is shooting 30% in the games that count, thats a major problem.
 
#487
#487
ranradVOL said:
He's shooting 40%!!!!

Good god man, that's not a horrible %.

What did Lee Humphreys shoot for Florida in the same role on a NC winning team?
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first of all he's shooting 39% and you are disregarding the fact he is shooting 30% in sec game, ya know the important ones

and....


haha thanks for making my point...
46%
 
#488
#488
ranradVOL said:
He's shooting 40%!!!!

Good god man, that's not a horrible %.

What did Lee Humphreys shoot for Florida in the same role on a NC winning team?
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46%

Yes . . . I just wasted 30 seconds of my life looking that up. I'm going to bed.
 
#490
#490
hahaha way to edit your post we all caught it


and the fact your going to try and say 39% and 46% isnt that far off how about this...

humphrey was good for about 1.5 more 3's a game than skylar was, tell me that doesnt make a difference. your also talking about a guy who did more than shoot from 3, he averaged about 5 more ppg than mcbee.

thank you for making my point :hi:
 
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#491
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#492
#492
bleedingTNorange said:
look at the above post, he really walked right into that one
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Walked into what? Humphreys is one of the better shooters in sec history and he's 5% pts above mcbee.
My point stands that mcbee is our best 3pt option, therefore he has to get minutes.

Anyways, good win. Im out guys.
Bleeding, no hard feelings bro, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
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#493
#493
bleedingTNorange said:
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you spend a lot of your time trying to prove people wrong, but get corrected quite often. Just chill and you may learn something, rather than trying to prove yourself right at all costs.
 
#494
#494
ranradVOL said:
Walked into what? Humphreys is one of the better shooters in sec history and he's 5% pts above mcbee.
My point stands that mcbee is our best 3pt option, therefore he has to get minutes.

Anyways, good win. Im out guys.
Bleeding, no hard feelings bro, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
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he was 46% and mcbee 39% thats a vast disparity, as i pointed out almost 2 3's a game, thats 6 points. i hope mcbee gets it straightened out because 30% in sec wont work, we need him to be the knockdown shooter he can be.

haha it's all good man thats what makes it fun.
 
#495
#495
Spartacavolus said:
you spend a lot of your time trying to prove people wrong, but get corrected quite often. Just chill and you may learn something, rather than trying to prove yourself right at all costs.
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hey douche what was i proven wrong on that mcbee isnt a good 3 point shooter? he shoots 30% from 3 in sec, thats good in your expertise mind?

listen your boy can do 1 thing well and that is shoot 3's and right now he isnt even doing that well. theres one reason and one reason only that he gets minutes, because the talent level on this team sucks.

its not a coincidence that ware scored his averaged in the first 4 minutes against skylar. he hardly scored against golden, then insert mcbee again in the 2nd half and bang.

do you know what the plus/minus was for when mcbee was at the PG?

if im wrong about something i will gladly admit it and learn something new from it, but im not wrong in the fact that skylar is not a good 3 point shooter right now. you cant deny the numbers the guys is shooting 30% from 3 in sec, is that acceptable in your expert opinion?
 
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#497
#497
Spartacavolus said:
If you want to learn from someone, its best not to start a question by calling them a douchebag. Grow up.
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is that better...
so what was i proven wrong on that mcbee isnt a good 3 point shooter? he shoots 30% from 3 in sec, thats good in your expertise mind?

listen your boy can do 1 thing well and that is shoot 3's and right now he isnt even doing that well. theres one reason and one reason only that he gets minutes, because the talent level on this team sucks.

its not a coincidence that ware scored his averaged in the first 4 minutes against skylar. he hardly scored against golden, then insert mcbee again in the 2nd half and bang.

do you know what the plus/minus was for when mcbee was at the PG?

if im wrong about something i will gladly admit it and learn something new from it, but im not wrong in the fact that skylar is not a good 3 point shooter right now. you cant deny the numbers the guys is shooting 30% from 3 in sec, is that acceptable in your expert opinion?
 
#498
#498
Spartacavolus said:
Why is he out there now? For ft shooting. He's managing the game. I love when clowns that never coached tell others how to coach, much less the HC.
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Spartacavolus said:
Dude. I played ball, won an aau nc, and coached a dozen + D1 signees. You didn't make it past 3rd grade. Stfu.
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so these are your statements yet you complain about me calling you a douche and telling me to "grow up", hypocrite much?
 
#500
#500
Spartacavolus said:
Was that comment directed to you? Or to tvols who attacked me? Again, I have to correct you.
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it was you making a derogatory remark in general which you clearly try to act like you frown upon. you tell me to grow up yet yourself are acting inmature towards other posters, kind of hyprocritical you know?

look enough is enough im not trying to argue, if you wanna defend mcbee go for it peronally i dont think him shootin 30% in sec is helping us much, but at this point we dont have much else so we are stuck with him right now. with that said good night sir :hi:
 
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