The Official Tobias Harris Thread

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Figured he is worthy of his own official thread.

Can anyone fill us in on what Volquest's "War Room" says about T. Harris? Anything new?
 
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I have a subscription and, let me just say, it's better news than you would expect.
 
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Well, I try and respect their request for not divulging information from there, but I will say that Kentucky does not appear to be a big factor and that we stand in a good position with both Pinkston and Harris, who talk to one another.
 
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Unimane said:
Well, I try and respect their request for not divulging information from there, but I will say that Kentucky does not appear to be a big factor and that we stand in a good position with both Pinkston and Harris, who talk to one another.
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Agreed. I don't think UK gets either.
 
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Per Rivals' Jerry Meyer:

I wouldn't be surprised if Tennessee landed both Harris and Pinkston. Certainly the competition is thick for Harris, but Tennessee is in a strong position in that race. With Pinkston, Tennessee just might be the leader in a mix with Villanova and St. John's.

The word is that both these New Yorkers are communicating with each other and the possibility of playing together an attractive scenario.

If Tennessee were to pull off a double play, the Volunteers would be right there with cross-state rival Memphis for the No. 2 spot in the current rankings. I know Coach Bruce Pearl says Memphis isn't a rival because both schools aren't in the same conference, but I don't know how he could deny that the two schools are vicious recruiting rivals.

Memphis' class is attractive because of the elite backcourt of Joe Jackson and Will Barton. At this point, though, the class lacks a big man, and this hypothetical Tennessee class has better balance. It would have an elite power forward in Harris and a rugged and solid four-star prospect in Pinkston to go along with a top-60 combo guard in Trae Golden and a skilled top-50 wing player in Jordan McRae.

I might not even have to make this call because it is far from a sure thing that Tennessee lands both Harris and Pinkston. In fact, Tennessee could easily come up empty on both prospects. Nonetheless, I probably would give this hypothetical Tennessee class the edge over Memphis, at least the way I see it now.
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Great stuff. There's also a good read in another mailbag about Luc. Getting Harris and Pinkston for basketball and Luc for football would be unreal.
 
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We know this football staff is elite in terms of recruiting.

Much harder to sell us the same in terms of basketball.

The number one difference is TN football players in the NFL as of late, and guys our staff put in the NFL from other programs and TN bball putting guys in the NBA.

A great season and Tyler Smith working his way to a lottery pick will go a long way, and Tobias Harris has the potential to even be better than T Smith doing the same point forward position.

This season is the most crucial one of Bruce Pearls tenure. I think he knows that as well, and I expect greatness against UK, Kansas and Memphis while the country watches and a great seed to help us move to the program first Elite 8 this year.
 
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I hope you're right. If we get neither Harris nor Pinkston and lose in the NCAA's first weekend, I fear that Bruce's program will begin a steep decline. On the other hand, if we get both of those guys, make the Elite Eight, and have multiple guys drafted next summer...well, that would mean Bruce is going to stay competitive with KY for the long haul, and someone on VN will have a lot of crow to eat.

We can only hope. I hope it all plays out in our favor. Go Bruce!
 
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ukvols said:
I hope you're right. If we get neither Harris nor Pinkston and lose in the NCAA's first weekend, I fear that Bruce's program will begin a steep decline. On the other hand, if we get both of those guys, make the Elite Eight, and have multiple guys drafted next summer...well, that would mean Bruce is going to stay competitive with KY for the long haul, and someone on VN will have a lot of crow to eat.
We can only hope. I hope it all plays out in our favor. Go Bruce!
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that wouldn't be a certain hat would it:question:
 
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The one surprise, for me, in this news is that we are ahead of Syracuse at this point. He' s obviously not a Cal-type player and Louisville was a wildcard, but that's a mess up there right now. Georgia Tech and Maryland seemed like throw ins. I always thought it was the Orange followed by WVU and UT. So, I worry about Huggins and the upcoming visit. I'm trying not to get too excited because every program gets burned on the recruiting trail from time to time, altough we are due for a break our way after the Selby fiasco.
 
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ukvols said:
I hope you're right. If we get neither Harris nor Pinkston and lose in the NCAA's first weekend, I fear that Bruce's program will begin a steep decline. On the other hand, if we get both of those guys, make the Elite Eight, and have multiple guys drafted next summer...well, that would mean Bruce is going to stay competitive with KY for the long haul, and someone on VN will have a lot of crow to eat.

We can only hope. I hope it all plays out in our favor. Go Bruce!
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I agree with you. This season will be preview of our next few years. If we go far this year, our recruiting will go up. If we don't go far, I'm concerned about our program. Right now Pearl has had only 1 player, Chism, that has been consistent in his career. Chism has been his only player, that he has signed, to perform well. If we can somehow pick up Selby again add Harris and maybe one or two more studs in this class we can look promising. I believe KY is not going to walk through this league like they think they are. Cal is definitely the better recruiter, but Pearl is a better coach. Pearl must recruit good guard play. None of his guards have panned out during his tenure.
 
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Unimane said:
The one surprise, for me, in this news is that we are ahead of Syracuse at this point. He' s obviously not a Cal-type player and Louisville was a wildcard, but that's a mess up there right now. Georgia Tech and Maryland seemed like throw ins. I always thought it was the Orange followed by WVU and UT. So, I worry about Huggins and the upcoming visit. I'm trying not to get too excited because every program gets burned on the recruiting trail from time to time, altough we are due for a break our way after the Selby fiasco.
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Im not sure where you got that from, it seems like right now Syracuse is the favorite. Alot can happen in the next two weeks but right now I think its syracuse in front.
 
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cuse84 said:
Im not sure where you got that from, it seems like right now Syracuse is the favorite. Alot can happen in the next two weeks but right now I think its syracuse in front.
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I got it from the Tennessee mod (who is very good-not a homer) and Jerry Meyer. Both are very positive about UT's position right now and have mentioned UT is in front of Syracuse, but to watch for West Virginia.

I don't have any inside info myself, but those are two who are usually very good with the info. Of course, if you talk to most Kentucky fans, they will get him because.....well, they are Kentucky.
 
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Unimane said:
I got it from the Tennessee mod (who is very good-not a homer) and Jerry Meyer. Both are very positive about UT's position right now and have mentioned UT is in front of Syracuse, but to watch for West Virginia.

I don't have any inside info myself, but those are two who are usually very good with the info. Of course, if you talk to most Kentucky fans, they will get him because.....well, they are Kentucky.
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Jerry meyer never said tennessee was ahead of syracuse all he said was tennessee had a good shot to get him. There is a big difference between being in front and having a shot. The mods on the cuse boards who are also very good at stuff like that seem to feel syracuse is the favorite, so does adam zagoria and some recruiting guys on other websites. Like I said alot can change but I dont think ten is in front of cuse right now.
 
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cuse84 said:
Jerry meyer never said tennessee was ahead of syracuse all he said was tennessee had a good shot to get him. There is a big difference between being in front and having a shot. The mods on the cuse boards who are also very good at stuff like that seem to feel syracuse is the favorite, so does adam zagoria and some recruiting guys on other websites. Like I said alot can change but I dont think ten is in front of cuse right now.
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Zagoria lost some of my respect when he said UConn was the clear leader before Tobias cut them completely.

I do not think Zagsblog is a good source for where he ends up, especially when he has so few readers in the Southeast that it makes since for him to call anything in a pro Big East way.

In other news, I freaking love Syracuse football right now in terms of on the way back. I think you will be murdered the next two weeks, but I think you have an outside shot at getting to six wins and going to a bowl (if you can beat UConn).
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Zagoria lost some of my respect when he said UConn was the clear leader before Tobias cut them completely.

I do not think Zagsblog is a good source for where he ends up, especially when he has so few readers in the Southeast that it makes since for him to call anything in a pro Big East way.

In other news, I freaking love Syracuse football right now in terms of on the way back. I think you will be murdered the next two weeks, but I think you have an outside shot at getting to six wins and going to a bowl (if you can beat UConn).
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Zagoria is usually very reliable I guess everyone can get one wrong. Like I said Im not saying syracuse is a lock but from everything I have seen and heard sounds like as of now they are the favorites.

I think our football program is headed in the right direction, It will take some time but its getting there. I think kiffin has you guys in great shape in the next few years, there is no doubt ten will be competing for sec titles and nat titles in the near future. I have been very impressed by your defense against bama and florida.
 
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cuse84 said:
Zagoria is usually very reliable I guess everyone can get one wrong. Like I said Im not saying syracuse is a lock but from everything I have seen and heard sounds like as of now they are the favorites.

I think our football program is headed in the right direction, It will take some time but its getting there. I think kiffin has you guys in great shape in the next few years, there is no doubt ten will be competing for sec titles and nat titles in the near future. I have been very impressed by your defense against bama and florida.
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I think writers have different levels of sources for different players. If someone told you for instance that they know where D Robinson (OL recruit from MS) is going, they are either a liar or the only writer who he has trusted enough to let in and the former is much more likely.

Once Zag called UConn, it was funny to watch Hatvol jump on that bandwagon and pretend he had any info on Harris. Harris then cut UConn and I realized that neither guy was going to be the source for that player. On lots of other players he has had good insights (Zagoria) and I enjoy reading his excellent free writing.
 
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