The Problems with Trans-ideology

Odds are overwhelming that Till's accuser was a Democrat.
Cmon. You know how the leftist history goes. The Republicans that set the slaves free were actually democrats. The democrats that made up the Klan were actually Republicans. Every step of the way they have always been on the right side of history. The moral high ground they stand on is sacred.
 
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That is not a rebuttal to her being conservative
Okay; Tawana Brawley, Crystal Mangum, C. Blasey Ford.

Point is that creating strawmen labels and attaching them to people on the basis of your ideology, is nonsensical. Whether dictator, rapist, or false accuser, deviant people defy categorization by Crayola.
 
Conservative women have been doing the crocodile tears thing to get minorities arrested since well before Emmett Till, this has nothing whatsoever to do with rape

Ignorant statement is ignorant. Black acts of violence and rape in this country are through the roof and the majority of those acts are committed against other black people.

To dismiss those as being due to “conservative women” and their “crocodile tears” makes you a joke.

Black men get arrested at incredibly high rates because they commit acts of violent crime at incredibly high rates. Not because of “crocodile tears”

#BelieveAllWomenUnlessTheyreWhite?
 
Ignorant statement is ignorant. Black acts of violence and rape in this country are through the roof and the majority of those acts are committed against other black people.

To dismiss those as being due to “conservative women” and their “crocodile tears” makes you a joke.

Black men get arrested an incredibly high rates because they commit acts of violent crime at incredibly high rates. Not because of “crocodile tears”

#BelieveAllWomenUnlessTheyreWhite?
What an insane strawman lmfao. Bolded is something you entirely made up
 
What an insane strawman lmfao. Bolded is something you entirely made up

When you say minorities conservative women use their crocodiles tears to get minorities arrested and even add in the name Emmett Till, that’s 100% what you’re doing.

You’re pretending, falsely, that the issue is lying (insert white or conservative here) women rather than the disproportionate violence that occurs.
 
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When you say minorities conservative women use their crocodiles tears to get minorities arrested and even add in the name Emmett Till, that’s 100% what you’re doing.

You’re pretending, falsely, that the issue is lying (insert white or conservative here) women rather than the disproportionate violence that occurs.
You should read the thread before making up weird strawmen, Nancy Mace claiming to be "attacked" when it turned out to be a handshake is not "disproportionate violence"
 
Words of reason from across the pond ...

From the article:

Rowling was responding to a critic who said they wished she would use her “immense power for good” and labelled her “hateful focus” on transgender children as “hurtful and unnecessary”.

In response, the 59-year-old writer posted on X, and said: “There are no trans kids. No child is ‘born in the wrong body’.

“There are only adults like you, prepared to sacrifice the health of minors to bolster your belief in an ideology that will end up wreaking more harm than lobotomies and false memory syndrome combined.”
“Schools affirm kids’ trans identities behind parents’ backs,” she went on. “Many parents are struggling to protect kids from a Zeitgeist telling them that anxieties about puberty, sexuality and growing up can be fixed by lifelong reliance on Big Pharma and by doctors who make Frankenstein look ethical.”



She's a fkn idiot. It's like people have never heard of intersex before. How is it possible that someone of her status can be this ignorant?

People who truly care about kids are doing them a great disservice by rejecting the fact that gender confusion is a part of our nature. Ignoring this reality will not deliver the results they want.
 
Odds are overwhelming that Till's accuser was a Democrat.

Everybody who is being honest knows how BS this is. It's about ideology, not party. At least for non-partisans.

Dixiecrats left the party in the civil rights/womens rights era. They are the same people who are right-wing evangelicals now.

Cmon. You know how the leftist history goes. The Republicans that set the slaves free were actually democrats. The democrats that made up the Klan were actually Republicans. Every step of the way they have always been on the right side of history. The moral high ground they stand on is sacred.

Yes, Republicans freed the slaves, but that party has almost nothing to do with today's party. We're in the other thread talking about how there are no D's like Jimmy Carter left...that was just 40 years ago. The parties change dramatically, while ideologies stay relatively unchanged.
 
You should read the thread before making up weird strawmen, Nancy Mace claiming to be "attacked" when it turned out to be a handshake is not "disproportionate violence"

I’m referring to your specific statement. Not to the thread as a whole. When you speak about minorities suffering due to “conservative tears” (a joke of a way to even state this, really) and bring up Emmett Till specifically, you’re discounting the rapes of countless women throughout history as long as their victim is “conservative” (in your mind, you don’t even know that to be accurate), and the assailant is a minority.

That’s disgusting. If you look at violent crime data in this country and believe the massive discrepancy is due to “conservative/white tears”, you’re lying to yourself.
 
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She's a fkn idiot. It's like people have never heard of intersex before. How is it possible that someone of her status can be this ignorant?

People who truly care about kids are doing them a great disservice by rejecting the fact that gender confusion is a part of our nature. Ignoring this reality will not deliver the results they want.

Trans kids are not intersex. That’s a completely different thing that you’re attempting to dishonestly smuggle into the argument.

Your friends with the trans volleyball playing son, was he born with ovaries? Or is trans a different thing than intersex?
 
I’m referring to your specific statement. Not to the thread as a whole. When you speak about minorities suffering due to “conservative tears” (a joke of a way to even state this, really) and bring up Emmett Till specifically, you’re discounting the rapes of countless women throughout history as long as their victim is “conservative” (in your mind, you don’t even know that to be accurate), and the assailant is a minority.

That’s disgusting. If you look at violent crime data in this country and believe the massive discrepancy is due to “conservative/white tears”, you’re lying to yourself.
You're making **** up as usual lol. Mace claimed to be attacked when nothing happened and relied on negative public perception of a minority group to get people to side with her, which is one of the oldest tricks in the book. In no way did that become "claims of rape are all fake if they're from white women" or some BS lmfao
 
You're making **** up as usual lol. Mace claimed to be attacked when nothing happened and relied on negative public perception of a minority group to get people to side with her, which is one of the oldest tricks in the book. In no way did that become "claims of rape are all fake if they're from white women" or some BS lmfao

The negative “public perception” based on rape and violence you’re referring to is based in reality.

You’re 100% and intentionally so, casting doubt on claims of rape and/or violence as long you support the group accused (minorities) and disapprove of the group accusing (conservatives in this case).

That’s why instead of speaking of singular incidents, you’re attempting to proclaim this is evidence of a broader problem involving the use of these evil white “crocodile tears”. Because it’s easier for you to blame the victims than to accept the reality
 
The negative “public perception” based on rape and violence you’re referring to is based in reality.

You’re 100% and intentionally so, casting doubt on claims of rape and/or violence as long you support the group accused (minorities) and disapprove of the group accusing (conservatives in this case).

That’s why instead of speaking of singular incidents, you’re attempting to proclaim this is evidence of a broader problem involving the use of these evil white “crocodile tears”. Because it’s easier for you to blame the victims than to accept the reality
Negative public perception around Emmett Till and around the "trans activist" or whoever Mace said attacked her was "based in reality," very weird thing to say unsolicited lol. Those explicitly are singular incidents, genius
 
Negative public perception around Emmett Till and around the "trans activist" or whoever Mace said attacked her was "based in reality," very weird thing to say unsolicited lol

Except you didn’t limit this to those specific incidents. If you had, we wouldn’t disagree. The Emmett Hill case was bad. Instead you tried to broaden this to some greater problem.

So once again, the negative public perception is based in reality.
 
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She's a fkn idiot. It's like people have never heard of intersex before. How is it possible that someone of her status can be this ignorant?

People who truly care about kids are doing them a great disservice by rejecting the fact that gender confusion is a part of our nature. Ignoring this reality will not deliver the results they want.

I don’t recall kids discussing or having “gender confusion” until adults started confusing them about their gender.
 
I don’t recall kids discussing or having “gender confusion” until adults started confusing them about their gender.

He’s also openly lying and pretending intersex is the same as transgender.

“Some people are born with ambiguous genitals!”

Okay…what about people who aren’t?

“They can be trans too!”

That’s his real argument right now and it’s nonsense
 
I don’t recall kids discussing or having “gender confusion” until adults started confusing them about their gender.

He’s also openly lying and pretending intersex is the same as transgender.

“Some people are born with ambiguous genitals!”

Okay…what about people who aren’t?

“They can be trans too!”

That’s his real argument right now and it’s nonsense
 
Except you didn’t limit this to those specific incidents. If you had, we wouldn’t disagree. The Emmett Hill case was bad. Instead you tried to broaden this to some greater problem.

So once again, the negative public perception is based in reality.
Saying it's an old tactic and has been happening since the Till incident and before that, which is a statement of fact, is not saying it explains any difference in crime stats or discounting claims of rape from people who were not using that tactic. You are having a conversation with yourself where there should be nothing to argue about
 
I don’t recall kids discussing or having “gender confusion” until adults started confusing them about their gender.

Bruce Jenner talked about dressing up as a woman when he was like 8 years old, and how confused he was by his own actions. He didn't advertise that when he was closeted, which makes a ton of sense, right? You don't remember it because you don't know if it ever happened to somebody close to you.

My cousin and his wife are devout Mormons in the heart of Utah. Their daughter was a really cute little girl by traditional standards. She grew up going to church. If there was indoctrination, it was anti-trans indoctrination. She even graduated from BYU. So when did adults confuse her? She has Endometriosis and PCOS, which causes elevated testosterone levels and she's not such a cute, little girl anymore. I honestly can't believe she's the same person. She looks biologically different from all her peers of her same birth gender, and naturally, she has gender confusion.
 
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Bruce Jenner talked about dressing up as a woman when he was like 8 years old, and how confused he was by his own actions. He didn't advertise that when he was closeted, which makes a ton of sense, right? You don't remember it because you don't know if it ever happened to somebody close to you.

My cousin and his wife are devout Mormons in the heart of Utah. Their daughter was a really cute little girl by traditional standards. She grew up going to church. If there was indoctrination, it was anti-trans indoctrination. She even graduated from BYU. So when did adults confuse her? She has Endometriosis and PCOS, which causes elevated testosterone levels and she's not such a cute, little girl anymore. I honestly can't believe she's the same person. She looks biologically different from all her peers of her same birth gender, and naturally, she has gender confusion.

I don’t think someone with a birth defect or some other abnormality would be trying to indoctrinate kids or normalize ridiculous behavior.
 

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