The real reason we lost the game

#28
#28
Originally posted by KYVolFan@Sep 18, 2005 11:12 AM
Instant Replay did not cost us the game (the call was correct).  Our coaches did not cost us the game (although I think it time that we decide who is the Quarterback).  Florida did not beat us.  We beat ourselves with wholely unforgivable bushleague-like Special Teams play.  An 8 yd punt, an uncalled Fake Punt, a blocked Field Goal, a Fumbled Punt, and  "0" yards in Punt Returns just to mention a few blunders.  :bad:  :bad:  :bad:  :bad:  :bad:

I can't remember, in my 61 years, such horrible play by Tennessee Special Teams as we have seen in both games this year. We gave Florida the ball in excellent Field Position 3 times and they scored Field Goals on all three possessions. Guess what, 3 Field Goals equates to 9 points which is coincidentally the exact margin of the game. :banghead:

From my perspective, I thought our offensive line slacked off in the late 3rd and entire 4th quarter.  The Vols are supposed and expected to win the 4th but our line had NO ability to stop the smaller Florida defensive players.  Either this is lack of heart or conditioning.  :bad:  :bad:
This may be a VERY, VERY, VERY LONG SEASON. :cry:

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:good: Excellent post. You are right on the money!
 
#29
#29
Originally posted by U-T@Sep 18, 2005 5:07 PM
Wah Wah Wah, can only blame the coaches so much. Coaches didn't cause us to drop a fumble and the coaches DID NOT CALL the fake punt...


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Actually, Fulmer took the blame for Colquitt's fake. Saying that Colquitt should have known not to try that on their own 30...
 
#30
#30
Yes but Fulmer and the coaching staff did not call for that specific fake. They gave him permission to do it if he felt it was possible, which Colquitt felt he could.

Thus, it was his fault.
 
#31
#31
IMO, the freshman punter should have NEVER had the "green light" to begin with. When on the road, in the Swamp, in a tight game, on your own end of the field, with a freshman punter, while your defense is looking solid, you simply say: "Go in there and kick the hell out of it." That's it.

Florida won last night because they OUTCOACHED us. Period. That play is a perfect example. Do you think it was a fluke that that receiver was "left alone" on a blitz while the deep man sprinted in support? Hell no. That was a designed bait versus a young, inexperienced punter in a hostile environment that worked like a charm.
 
#33
#33
Usually would agree but if anyone saw the LSU game the other week...giving the punter that ability helps quite a bit when it works. I understand and felt bad for Colq because from his angle...it did look like it would work
 
#34
#34
Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Sep 18, 2005 6:13 PM
IMO, the freshman punter should have NEVER had the "green light" to begin with.  When on the road, in the Swamp, in a tight game, on your own end of the field, with a freshman punter, while your defense is looking solid, you simply say:  "Go in there and kick the hell out of it."  That's it.

Florida won last night because they OUTCOACHED us.  Period.  That play is a perfect example.  Do you think it was a fluke that that receiver was "left alone" on a blitz while the deep man sprinted in support?  Hell no.  That was a designed bait versus a young, inexperienced punter in a hostile environment that worked like a charm.
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Kiddie, I have had that EXACT conversation with friends (UF fans and haters alike) since last night. The punter's decision to try that play was his, but you are absolutely right it is the coaches' responsibility to tell him when it is okay to try it. And on the road in a tough game in the first half with the issue in doubt, you don't even THINK about it from your own 32. The coaches should have explained that limitation to him long before.
 
#35
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Sep 18, 2005 6:17 PM
Kiddie, I have had that EXACT conversation with friends (UF fans and haters alike) since last night.  The punter's decision to try that play was his, but you are absolutely right it is the coaches' responsibility to tell him when it is okay to try it.  And on the road in a tough game in the first half with the issue in doubt, you don't even THINK about it from your own 32.  The coaches should have explained that limitation to him long before.
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They probably did, lawgator. Shoot, he probably learned that in HIGH SCHOOL! But heck , it was the FLORIDA game and I figure Britton just wanted to win real bad. He just lost his head and did something stupid. I
wish I could say I had never done that myself.
 
#36
#36
I think Brit is pretty lucky he plays for fulmer and not Spurrier or even Myer, otherwise his ears would still be ringing from the cussing he would have got.
 
#37
#37
We need a new oc. The first 16 plays of every game used to be scripted; at half time the coaches would review the results and make adjustments—we used to own the third quarter based on these adjustments. Now, it looks like our oc seems to be picking plays out of thin air without regard for a game situation. An example of this is a play that was ran in the second quarter (I think it was a variation of an I left 39 sweep trap): we gained about 9 or 10 yards on this play. I never saw this play called again.
Another example is when Florida’s Ray McDonald (Def tackle) went out with a knee injury and was replaced by backup Michael Hill. At that point, here was the match up: Michael Hill (6’2”, 280 pounds) against Cody Douglas (6’4”, 330 pounds). I was expecting our oc to get on top of this situation with some trap blocking to take advantage of the inexperienced Hill, but it didn’t happen. An inside trap play to the 2 hole (something like I right 32 trap) would have allowed our left O guard (I think it was Rob Smith) to crack block (or angle block) Michael Hill. This would have been like feeding fresh red meat to a hungry lion. The interior Defensive line of Florida would have crumbled, Florida’s linebackers would have had to be used to stop our running game; that would have opened up the short passing lanes and the outside running sweeps.
I have tried to be patient and hope for the best, but the time has come to say this again—we need a new oc.
 
#38
#38
Originally posted by U-T@Sep 18, 2005 6:06 PM
Yes but Fulmer and the coaching staff did not call for that specific fake. They gave him permission to do it if he felt it was possible, which Colquitt felt he could.

Thus, it was his fault.
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It was the fault of UT's coaching staff and not the punter, for three reasons (take your pick):
1. If they gave him permission to fake just before he went out to punt from his own end of the field, the coaching staff screwed up (if the coaching staff gives the punter any instructions other than "KICK THE BALL", the staff is responsible for the results).
2. Alternatively, if they DIDN'T say "watch out for Florida to try to bait us into throwing the ball instead of punting... don't fall for it, just punt the ball", then it's the coach's fault. That call by Florida was brilliant, and we had absolutely no answer for it.
3. Alternitively (again) if they let Colquitt just run out onto the field w/o any advice whatsoever, it's the coach's fault for letting a freshman punter think on his own. Yeah, that's right, I'm saying they should coach him.

How can it NOT be the coach's fault??? That coaching staff let Colquitt down... they didn't coach on that play, or if they did, they didn't do it worth a crap.



 
#39
#39


Look that was a coaching mistake, why would you even discuss this play with a TRUE FRESHMEN PUNTER?

The kid would be nervous enough playing in front 70k in the swamp on national television without confusing him by discussing a trick play THAT FULMER NEVER USES.

Fulmer rarely ever uses trick plays, so why would confuse him by bringing it up??
 
#40
#40
It's not a trick play though - everybody uses it. If a gunner is not covered, the punter throws it to him. I saw somebody do it from their own 10 yard line this week.

 
#41
#41
My god I think I am gonna take a week off this board and let people get their common sense back. The ball hit the ground. No catch. Winning over a bad call would be like well... Florida celebrating Gaffney's dropped ball touchdown in Neyland. Keep instant replay alive.
 
#42
#42
Originally posted by shodges119@Sep 18, 2005 9:55 PM
My god I think I am gonna take a week off this board and let people get their common sense back.  The ball hit the ground.  No catch.  Winning over a bad call would be like well... Florida celebrating Gaffney's dropped ball touchdown in Neyland.  Keep instant replay alive.
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#43
#43
Originally posted by GAVol@Sep 18, 2005 10:36 PM
It's not a trick play though - everybody uses it.  If a gunner is not covered, the punter throws it to him.  I saw somebody do it from their own 10 yard line this week.
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In regard to the team that faked from their 10, did they win the game???

I think there's a difference between having such a play in mind b/c you see something on the defense that you want to try to take advantage and a playcall that looks like an act of desparation. Faking from your own 10 looks like the latter.
 
#44
#44
Originally posted by shodges119@Sep 18, 2005 9:55 PM
My god I think I am gonna take a week off this board and let people get their common sense back.  The ball hit the ground.  No catch.  Winning over a bad call would be like well... Florida celebrating Gaffney's dropped ball touchdown in Neyland.  Keep instant replay alive.
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Felt the same way early yesterday morning.

Just stick it out
 

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