The Roger Stone Trial

[Vol Main]

Really? That is the only thing going for Joe.

Not being Trump is no doubt a positive for many people. But your post is just wrong. That is far from the only reason to support him.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Not being Trump is no doubt a positive for many people. But your post is just wrong. That is far from the only reason to support him.

Actually both of our opinions are that and since there is two of us and one of you on your opinion you must clearly be wrong by your “logic”

After all you don’t want to destroy the Environmental Protection Agency do you?

 

[Vol Main]

No you are ignoring my initial answer to your premise. Trump is not destroying the country. That is simply false. Thus your analogy is moot regardless of how much you continue to push it. I owe you nothing else, didnt “owe” you this even in fact. Suck it up buttercup it’s gonna be ok.

Your opinion that Trump is destroying the country doesn’t make it fact.

I did not say you owed my anything. This is a politics board, not a philosophy board. Your inability to answer a simple question about a real issue speaks for the worth of your opinions, and no personal attack on me changes that.

 

[hog88]

Sure it does. It would have made the next person testifying before congress a little more likely to be truthful.

Next person that is called to testify before congress needs to tell them to kick rocks.

When they stop lying to us they deserve the same courtesy, until them piss on all of them.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I did not say you owed my anything. This is a politics board, not a philosophy board. Your inability to answer a simple question about a real issue speaks for the worth of your opinions, and no personal attack on me changes that.

So you do want to destroy the Environmental Protection Agency? Answer yes or no.

 

[hog88]

So you do want to destroy the Environmental Protection Agency? Answer yes or no.

Can I answer?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Can I answer?

I specifically chose that agency for my dumbassery analogy back to him just for you. To see if you could resist which apparently would be a nooooooo!

 

[Vol Main]

So you do want to destroy the Environmental Protection Agency? Answer yes or no.

You replied to my question with a question.

 

[hog88]

I specifically chose that agency for my dumbassery analogy back to him just for you. To see if you could resist which apparently would be a nooooooo!

That is a weak spot for me.

 

[NorthDallas40]

You replied to my question with a question.

I actually answered your point way back. Trump isn’t destroying the country.

You then went on a non applicable analogy tack. It isn’t a personal attack it’s a statement.

I’ve now used the same dumbass analogy tack back at you. After I already rejected your initial premise. Your move Cletus!

 

[Vol Main]

You actually did not answer my question. Do you support destroying the United States Postal Service?

 

[NorthDallas40]

You actually did not answer my question. Do you support destroying the United States Postal Service?

Oh yes I did. Your initial statement is that Trump is destroying the country. He isn’t. Nor is he destroying the USPS. They’ve been basically insolvent for about 30 years and their current ills have nothing to do with Trump.

Now your turn again. Connect the decades long malaise of the USPS to Trump’s 3.5 years in office.

 

[NorthDallas40]

You actually did not answer my question. Do you support destroying the United States Postal Service?

Here ya go Cletus. Please note the beginning of the end in 1971. Followed by the mainstream usage of email and now smart phones. The USPS has a broken model due to Congress. And Congress doesn’t have a fix for the model. Just more money following bad money spent already.

The tumultuous history of the U.S. Postal Service—and its constant fight for survival

Now ... about your misguided hatred for the EPA

 

[luthervol]

You actually did not answer my question. Do you support destroying the United States Postal Service?

ND has now called you Cletus in 2 of his last 3 posts.
That's his hidden tell that he knows he has lost the argument.
And you made him say it twice......evidently he is finally aware that Trump is indeed destroying the country.

 

[NorthDallas40]

ND has now called you Cletus in 2 of his last 3 posts.
That's his hidden tell that he know he has lost the argument.
And you made him say it twice......evidently he is finally aware that Trump is indeed destroying the country.

I also referenced your lousy burnt brussel sprout analogies. Clearly I’m done for

 

[luthervol]

I also referenced your lousy burnt brussel sprout analogies. Clearly I’m done for

Thanks, I saw that.

 

[Vol Main]

"Then there is the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006 (PAEA), which some have taken to calling "the most insane law" ever passed by Congress. The law requires the Postal Service, which receives no taxpayer subsidies, to prefund its retirees' health benefits up to the year 2056. This is a $5 billion per year cost; it is a requirement that no other entity, private or public, has to make. If that doesn't meet the definition of insanity, I don't know what does. Without this obligation, the Post Office actually turns a profit. Some have called this a "manufactured crisis."

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[NorthDallas40]

"Then there is the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006 (PAEA), which some have taken to calling "the most insane law" ever passed by Congress. The law requires the Postal Service, which receives no taxpayer subsidies, to prefund its retirees' health benefits up to the year 2056. This is a $5 billion per year cost; it is a requirement that no other entity, private or public, has to make. If that doesn't meet the definition of insanity, I don't know what does. Without this obligation, the Post Office actually turns a profit. Some have called this a "manufactured crisis."

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

I’m glad you agree Trump has nothing to do with the state of the USPS. Here is the headline of your earth shaking article (which I already pointed out earlier this is Congress’s fault). Run along with your broke back analogy now

 

[Vol Main]

You are misrepresenting the obvious meaning of my post. The PAED Act of 2006 which creates unnecessary costs born by no other private or public business in America, was passed by a Republican House, a Republican Senate, and signed by a Republican President. Trump is a Republican President, and his proposal for the USPS is consistent with his Party, i.e. to create unnecessary debt used for an argument to privatize it.

"The Trump proposal mentions the possibility of a 'sustainable business model' for a public postal service, but the only concrete proposal it offers is privatization, with significant reductions in service, and postal workers’ pay and benefits:

A private postal operator that delivers mail fewer days per week and to more central locations (not door delivery) would operate at substantially lower costs. A private entity would also have greater ability to adjust product pricing in response to changes in demand or operating costs. Freeing USPS to more fully negotiate pay and benefits rather than prescribing participation in costly Federal personnel benefit programs, and allowing it to follow private sector practices in compensation and labor relations, could further reduce costs."

Trump proposes privatizing USPS

 

[NorthDallas40]

You are misrepresenting the obvious meaning of my post. The PAED Act of 2006 which creates unnecessary costs born by no other private or public business in America, was passed by a Republican House, a Republican Senate, and signed by a Republican President. Trump is a Republican President, and his proposal for the USPS is consistent with his Party, i.e. to create unnecessary debt used for an argument to privatize it.

"The Trump proposal mentions the possibility of a 'sustainable business model' for a public postal service, but the only concrete proposal it offers is privatization, with significant reductions in service, and postal workers’ pay and benefits:

A private postal operator that delivers mail fewer days per week and to more central locations (not door delivery) would operate at substantially lower costs. A private entity would also have greater ability to adjust product pricing in response to changes in demand or operating costs. Freeing USPS to more fully negotiate pay and benefits rather than prescribing participation in costly Federal personnel benefit programs, and allowing it to follow private sector practices in compensation and labor relations, could further reduce costs."

Trump proposes privatizing USPS

 

[Vol Main]

This quote is taken directly from Trump's proposal. No stretch, here.

"A private postal operator that delivers mail fewer days per week and to more central locations (not door delivery) would operate at substantially lower costs. A private entity would also have greater ability to adjust product pricing in response to changes in demand or operating costs. Freeing USPS to more fully negotiate pay and benefits rather than prescribing participation in costly Federal personnel benefit programs, and allowing it to follow private sector practices in compensation and labor relations, could further reduce costs."

 

[NorthDallas40]

This quote is taken directly from Trump's proposal. No stretch, here.

"A private postal operator that delivers mail fewer days per week and to more central locations (not door delivery) would operate at substantially lower costs. A private entity would also have greater ability to adjust product pricing in response to changes in demand or operating costs. Freeing USPS to more fully negotiate pay and benefits rather than prescribing participation in costly Federal personnel benefit programs, and allowing it to follow private sector practices in compensation and labor relations, could further reduce costs."

You got him. Trump has had this in play since 2006 when he coerced everybody to implement his master plan.

Yeah... it’s a huge stretch you’re doing

 

[NorthDallas40]

This quote is taken directly from Trump's proposal. No stretch, here.

"A private postal operator that delivers mail fewer days per week and to more central locations (not door delivery) would operate at substantially lower costs. A private entity would also have greater ability to adjust product pricing in response to changes in demand or operating costs. Freeing USPS to more fully negotiate pay and benefits rather than prescribing participation in costly Federal personnel benefit programs, and allowing it to follow private sector practices in compensation and labor relations, could further reduce costs."

So are you just trolling or are you seriously screaming thru this much tin foil hat material?

As I linked earlier this all started with Congress screwing it up in 1971. But you’re stretching this hard to “get Trump” on the state of the USPS?

 

[evillawyer]

MAGA!

So I'm guessing Barr tenders his resignation today?

 

[hog88]

MAGA!

So I'm guessing Barr tenders his resignation today?

Stone wasn't pardoned.

I know, damn pesky facts.