The running backs

#26
#26
Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 18, 2005 1:10 PM
Me?  Never!  LOL
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There's always that outside chance he's from Jackson, Tennessee, or Mississippi. I guess the deeper stuff was clearly off my radar.

But hey, I'm down with the Jacksonian theory. Although I'm a Jefferson man myself. sniff, sniff .....
 
#30
#30
Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 18, 2005 1:25 PM
Oh boy, here it comes.

I'm betting he hates him too.
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Don't feed the Sharks!

Or is that Trolls?
 
#31
#31
Eh, I think it's funny.

Come on Jacksonian, what are your beefs with Randy, the offensive coordinator with the longest job security in the SEC.
 
#32
#32
Well... As for Riggs, he will be good, definitley a 1,000 yard rusher. But I imagine Fulmer will also heavily rotate the other RB's to get them some experience for next season when Riggs is gone. Gotta keep 'em fresh!
 
#34
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Originally posted by Vol67@Aug 18, 2005 1:32 PM
Mark it down Riggs will NOT get 1,500 yards.
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We had two backs who went into last season virtually tied for starting position. The carries were split almost evenly.

We don't have that 2nd back who will demand as many carries as Gerald did last year.

If our backfield doesn't rush for 2200 yards then we're in trouble.

I don't think anyone will get the quantity of 2nd string carries that Gerald did last year. So, if Gerald gets 50% more carries than he did last year, which is a real possibility, then he should be in the 1500 yards range.

I just don't see Foster and the others getting that number of carries.

Last year Gerald got 183 carries to Cedric's 181.

Gerald gained 1107 yards with a 5.7 average. If Gerald were to get 263 carries, and that's a real possibility, he'd hit the 1500 mark if he holds the 5.7 average.

The last year we had a RB go into the season with no one pushing them for the starting position was 2001 with Travis Henry. Travis got 253 carries that year and 1314 yards. That's 2nd in number of carries and 3rd in number of yards in school history.

I'm going on the premise that Gerald will be better than Travis.

I don't think it's too much of a long shot.
 
#36
#36
With that, OldVol, I doubt Riggs will get that many carries. 250+ is a bit high, I honestly see Riggs around the 210-220 carry range next season. He gets about 60% of the carries with the other 40% split up among the other backs, also I'd tend to think we throw it a bit more. It'd be a shame to waste two good QB's and one of the best groups of receivers this school has ever had.
 
#37
#37
I hope Riggs gets 210 carries next season, he will be a starting featured running back in the NFL.

I know you are on the wrong coast and behind milo, but try to join us in THIS SEASON.
 
#38
#38
I think 210-220 is about right on? You have to believe we'll see Anderson carry atleast a handful per game.

The youth behind Riggs will comtinue to compete on saturdays.
Offensive balance should be SWEET!
I havent looked up the numbers, But its common knowledge in TN when we out rush teams UT has the edge. :yahoo:
 
#40
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Originally posted by milohimself@Aug 18, 2005 2:18 PM
With that, OldVol, I doubt Riggs will get that many carries. 250+ is a bit high, I honestly see Riggs around the 210-220 carry range next season. He gets about 60% of the carries with the other 40% split up among the other backs, also I'd tend to think we throw it a bit more. It'd be a shame to waste two good QB's and one of the best groups of receivers this school has ever had.
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I don't think you picked up on my strategy Milo.

You see, if Gerald gets similar carries to Travis, and there's no reason to think he won't, what with the circumstances being almost identical, it wouldn't mean we'd be throwing the ball any less because the rushing attempts would be virtually the same as all of Coach Fulmer's seasons. The only thing that changes is that Gerald gets a higher percentage of the carries and the backups would go back to, well, backup type of numbers.

It's highly unusual to have 2 great backs in the same backfield at the same time. We had that luxury last year with Houston and Riggs.

Next year we may be looking at a situation where backs split carries like they did in 04 but Riggs has everything aligned to be the feature back.

This won't mean we throw the ball more or less than in the past.

Even if Gerald gets carries in the 250 range, that means theirs still more than a hundred or more carries to be split among the other backs.

It's a numbers thing and if Gerald begins to churn out 5, 6, 7 yards per carry the only time you'll see him out is to rest, give the other's experience when the game's in the bag, or ... Lord forbid, he is injured.
 
#41
#41
I don't think he picked up on my comment either. Milo, if Riggs is carrying 210 times next season, it means he is playing in the NFL, because he is a senior, and that would mean he were playing in the pros.


It's amazing to me how people micro-coach a team so much that they are arguing over how many carries a running back might get. I'm under the realization that the carries will depend on game situations and injury possibilities to other players, and about 50-100 other things. It really is a pointless debate.
 
#42
#42
Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 18, 2005 5:11 PM
I don't think he picked up on my comment either.  Milo, if Riggs is carrying 210 times next season, it means he is playing in the NFL, because he is a senior, and that would mean he were playing in the pros. 
It's amazing to me how people micro-coach a team so much that they are arguing over how many carries a running back might get.  I'm under the realization that the carries will depend on game situations and injury possibilities to other players, and about 50-100 other things.  It really is a pointless debate.
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If he has any chance at the Heisman, which he doesn't, but that's another argument, he'll have to have Henry like numbers in the carry department.

Besides, how can a guy who injects the Jacksonian Interpretive Philosophy into a conversation declare anything as pointless? :p

Be gentle. I'm old. :angel:
 
#43
#43
It was just a number. My point is that because we should have a slightly more balanced offense next season (as opposed to the usual run-heavy style) and more distribution of carries between Anderson and the rest of the RB's, I don't think Riggs will get enough showtime to rack up 1500 yards.

I picked up on what you said, OldVol. 2200+ yards on offense next season, at least. That would mean for Riggs to have a 1500 yard season, he'd have to get 65%-70% of the carries. I just have a hunch he won't get enough of the carries to pull it off.
 
#44
#44
Originally posted by milohimself@Aug 18, 2005 5:18 PM
It was just a number. My point is that because we should have a slightly more balanced offense next season (as opposed to the usual run-heavy style) and more distribution of carries between Anderson and the rest of the RB's, I don't think Riggs will get enough showtime to rack up 1500 yards.

I picked up on what you said, OldVol. 2200+ yards on offense next season, at least. That would mean for Riggs to have a 1500 yard season, he'd have to get 65%-70% of the carries. I just have a hunch he won't get enough of the carries to pull it off.
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He may not get that many carries. As Beltway said, there's a ton of things to consider.

But as far as us moving more towards the pass, we didn't even do that much more passing when Peyton was here.

Coach is an old offensive lineman. He doesn't just believe in 4 yards and a cloud of dust, he lives for it.

Fulmer loves the running game and ball control. The only times we ever abandon the run is if we're behing big in the second half. Even then, I've seen him stick to the run game when we were behind 14 in the 4th quarter. I've also seen the strategy work.

I'm just a bit optimistic with my projections for Riggs. But I do believe it can happen with just a little bit of good fortune coming our way.

Let's hope anyway.
 
#45
#45
Originally posted by milohimself@Aug 18, 2005 5:50 PM
Yeah, Anderson too. Supposed to be the best FB in Vol history, right?
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I dont think its a stretch to say that? The potential is there.
He has become a great blocking back, He's in certain schemes has become our TE if you will. Short yardage he has to be a threat (He only goes forward). Id love to see him get a carry on 1st and 10 or 2nd and 7. Ive noticed when he has the ball from a swing or screen or up the gut he doesnt look anywhere but straight ahead.

Wrap his legs up dont hit and hang on, You could be charged towing fee's.
 
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