The SEC will be easier at the top and tougher at the bottom.....fair?

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omghulkhands

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It looks to me that a lot of the top flight SEC team this year will all get worse, however slightly (UK, Florida, Vandy, Bama, Mizzou, Miss. State) while pretty much every other team in the league will be improved in terms of the players they return (LSU, Georgia, Auburn, South Carolina, A&M, Ole Miss)

Now we can all expect Tennessee will be much improved

How do you think this shift in power affects the SEC as a whole and more importantly, how does it affect UT's chances to win the conference in the regular season?
 
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I think the new USCe coach has a Spurrier like task ahead. He will bring them to respectability but it may take 4-5 years.

Kentucky and Florida will still be the class of the SEC

Tennessee, Vandy, Alabama and Mizzou I believe are second tier in the SEC

LSU, A&M, Miss. State and Ole Miss are the next group

South Carolina, Arkansas and Georgia will be the tweeners this year (overall they will be bad, but will pull some wins that we will not expect.)

Auburn will hold down the cellar this year...
 
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In the new SEC format, won't there only be two byes in the SEC Tourney? That is the only way I see scheduling working unless there is a play in round of some kind?
 
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I look for us to be able to continue the run we had at the end of last year, this year. UT will be number 2-4 in conference, I dont see number 1 as being likely. Definitely should get a bye in the conference tourney
 
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If I had to predict order of finish in the SEC right now, and I don't want to because I havnt seen anyone play this season, my prediction would look as such:
1. UT
2. Florida
3. Mizzou
4. Kentucky
5. Alabama
6. Arky
7. Vandy
8. Ole Miss
9. Miss st
10. LSU
11. UGA
12. SC
13. Tx am
14. Auburn

I believe the top 4 all lose between 3-5 games in conference. And I admittedly don't know a whole lot about the bottom 6 or so other than last season.
 
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gardners_51609 said:
I think the new USCe coach has a Spurrier like task ahead. He will bring them to respectability but it may take 4-5 years.

Kentucky and Florida ( who will still lose to Tennessee) will still be the class of the SEC

Tennessee, Vandy, Alabama and Mizzou I believe are second tier in the SEC

LSU, A&M, Miss. State and Ole Miss are the next group

South Carolina, Arkansas and Georgia will be the tweeners this year (overall they will be bad, but will pull some wins that we will not expect.)

Auburn will hold down the cellar this year...
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I think they have a 50/50 chance; 50% chance of winning it, 50% chance of not winning it - next question...
 
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Disagree. I think it'll be completely the other way around.

Kentucky won't be as good. Missouri won't be as good as they were last season, but they weren't in the SEC last season, so adding them will make the top better regardless. Florida will be better IN THE REGULAR SEASON. We may not go as far in the tournament, but we were crazily inconsistent last season which resulted in the fairly low seed. Tennessee will be better, obviously. Alabama will be about the same. Losing Green will hurt a bit, but losing Mitchell should be addition by subtraction. Devonta Pollard is a big time recruit. Arkansas should be a good deal better than they were last season, and Ole Miss will be a bubble team once again.

South Carolina is worse on paper than they were last season. They lost their two big men to transfer and have nearly nothing to replace them. Martin has a tough task in front of him. LSU will be way worse than they were last season. They were respectable with their NIT bid. Now, after losing Justin Hamilton to the draft, they'll have three players 6'8 or above, and only one of them looks to be any good (Johnny O'Bryant). Auburn will be about the same (which means they'll suck). They lost their best player, but bring in a solid recruiting class. Same with Georgia. They lose their two best point guards and are expecting 3* freshman to step up. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and a now experienced front line may make them respectable, though. Mississippi State will be historically bad. Vandy will obviously be worse, but they're an unknown. I don't think they'll be as bad as most are saying.

tl;dr: The SEC may not have the ELITE team like 2011-12 Kentucky, but it will be deeper at the top. The bottom of the SEC looks to be a joke next year, with teams like LSU, South Carolina, Auburn, and Mississippi State all going through really tough rebuilds.
 
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GatorsGators said:
Disagree. I think it'll be completely the other way around.

Kentucky won't be as good. Missouri won't be as good as they were last season, but they weren't in the SEC last season, so adding them will make the top better regardless. Florida will be better IN THE REGULAR SEASON. We may not go as far in the tournament, but we were crazily inconsistent last season which resulted in the fairly low seed. Tennessee will be better, obviously. Alabama will be about the same. Losing Green will hurt a bit, but losing Mitchell should be addition by subtraction. Devonta Pollard is a big time recruit. Arkansas should be a good deal better than they were last season, and Ole Miss will be a bubble team once again.

South Carolina is worse on paper than they were last season. They lost their two big men to transfer and have nearly nothing to replace them. Martin has a tough task in front of him. LSU will be way worse than they were last season. They were respectable with their NIT bid. Now, after losing Justin Hamilton to the draft, they'll have three players 6'8 or above, and only one of them looks to be any good (Johnny O'Bryant). Auburn will be about the same (which means they'll suck). They lost their best player, but bring in a solid recruiting class. Same with Georgia. They lose their two best point guards and are expecting 3* freshman to step up. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and a now experienced front line may make them respectable, though. Mississippi State will be historically bad. Vandy will obviously be worse, but they're an unknown. I don't think they'll be as bad as most are saying.

tl;dr: The SEC may not have the ELITE team like 2011-12 Kentucky, but it will be deeper at the top. The bottom of the SEC looks to be a joke next year, with teams like LSU, South Carolina, Auburn, and Mississippi State all going through really tough rebuilds.
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I Hate Florida, but you and I seem to agree about basketball for the most part. Check my preseason prediction, pretty darn close to what you put in words haha.
 
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GatorsGators said:
Disagree. I think it'll be completely the other way around.

Kentucky won't be as good. Missouri won't be as good as they were last season, but they weren't in the SEC last season, so adding them will make the top better regardless. Florida will be better IN THE REGULAR SEASON. We may not go as far in the tournament, but we were crazily inconsistent last season which resulted in the fairly low seed. Tennessee will be better, obviously. Alabama will be about the same. Losing Green will hurt a bit, but losing Mitchell should be addition by subtraction. Devonta Pollard is a big time recruit. Arkansas should be a good deal better than they were last season, and Ole Miss will be a bubble team once again.

South Carolina is worse on paper than they were last season. They lost their two big men to transfer and have nearly nothing to replace them. Martin has a tough task in front of him. LSU will be way worse than they were last season. They were respectable with their NIT bid. Now, after losing Justin Hamilton to the draft, they'll have three players 6'8 or above, and only one of them looks to be any good (Johnny O'Bryant). Auburn will be about the same (which means they'll suck). They lost their best player, but bring in a solid recruiting class. Same with Georgia. They lose their two best point guards and are expecting 3* freshman to step up. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and a now experienced front line may make them respectable, though. Mississippi State will be historically bad. Vandy will obviously be worse, but they're an unknown. I don't think they'll be as bad as most are saying.

tl;dr: The SEC may not have the ELITE team like 2011-12 Kentucky, but it will be deeper at the top. The bottom of the SEC looks to be a joke next year, with teams like LSU, South Carolina, Auburn, and Mississippi State all going through really tough rebuilds.
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Kentucky will be worse on account of it being nearly impossible to be much better. Vandy is going to be a middle of the road SEC team at best. Florida lost the 3rd overall pick in the draft and their starting PG which leaves a TON of scoring to be made up by their offense. Alabama lost its two best players and I disagree with you that losing Mitchell is somehow a positive. We agree Miss. State will be awful, but you still think the SEC will be deeper at the top?
 
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It is going to be a great basketball year, final 8 or better. And next year we have a similar shot at the NC if the big Stoker stays and #17 Austin Nichols (F Eads, TN Briarcrest Christian 5 stars 6'8" 193) decides to stay home.
 
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I wouldn't underestimate UK. Come regular season play we'll be playing team ball as well as any SEC team. Barring no injuries *knocks on wood*
My only concern in playing TN is the rebounding battle. I have a feeling Noel might get thrown around like a rag doll against Stokes. His strength alone will be a nightmare. I've noticed over the years the team who dominates the boards typically wins the game. TN will no doubt lead the SEC in rebounds.

To the poster who predicted us to finish behind Mizzou....c'mon now...:rolleyes:
 
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omghulkhands said:
Kentucky will be worse on account of it being nearly impossible to be much better. Vandy is going to be a middle of the road SEC team at best. Florida lost the 3rd overall pick in the draft and their starting PG which leaves a TON of scoring to be made up by their offense. Alabama lost its two best players and I disagree with you that losing Mitchell is somehow a positive. We agree Miss. State will be awful, but you still think the SEC will be deeper at the top?
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Alabama was a better team after Mitchell was suspended. Basketball is a team game. Sometimes teams are better off without their "best players," and Alabama definitely was better off without Mitchell last season.

Florida will get a seed better than the #7 seed we got last season. We won't have the amount of pure scorers we had last year, but we'll still have Boynton, Rosario, Murphy, and Young. Scottie Wilbekin is a true point guard and an awesome defender, which will be a fairly large departure from Walker. Getting a healthy Will Yeguete back will help tremendously as well. Like I've said, I'm not sure if this team has the upside last year's team had. When we were hitting our shots, we could beat anybody. The problem is that we weren't always hitting our shots, which cost us in seeding. Good thing we got hot in March.
 
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omghulkhands said:
Kentucky will be worse on account of it being nearly impossible to be much better. Vandy is going to be a middle of the road SEC team at best. Florida lost the 3rd overall pick in the draft and their starting PG which leaves a TON of scoring to be made up by their offense. Alabama lost its two best players and I disagree with you that losing Mitchell is somehow a positive. We agree Miss. State will be awful, but you still think the SEC will be deeper at the top?
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I agreed with you at the beginning. However, a Bama worshiper at my work said that losing Mitchell to suspension made the team as a whole play better. Although he was their best player i think he may have altered team chemistry for the worse.
 
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GatorsGators said:
Alabama was a better team after Mitchell was suspended. Basketball is a team game. Sometimes teams are better off without their "best players," and Alabama definitely was better off without Mitchell last season.

Florida will get a seed better than the #7 seed we got last season. We won't have the amount of pure scorers we had last year, but we'll still have Boynton, Rosario, Murphy, and Young. Scottie Wilbekin is a true point guard and an awesome defender, which will be a fairly large departure from Walker. Getting a healthy Will Yeguete back will help tremendously as well. Like I've said, I'm not sure if this team has the upside last year's team had. When we were hitting our shots, we could beat anybody. The problem is that we weren't always hitting our shots, which cost us in seeding. Good thing we got hot in March.
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Florida has a good chance to finish with a better SEC record and better overall record than last year, but I still don't think that means they have a better team, just an easier path.
 
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AlaskaVol said:
It is going to be a great basketball year, final 8 or better. And next year we have a similar shot at the NC if the big Stoker stays and #17 Austin Nichols (F Eads, TN Briarcrest Christian 5 stars 6'8" 193) decides to stay home.
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Martin Quote:
"But the goal for our program is to one day be the last team standing and be the national champion, and I think we can do that with the right pieces."

I sense we're picking up some new believers.
Who'd a thunk it this time last year.
 
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omghulkhands said:
Florida has a good chance to finish with a better SEC record and better overall record than last year, but I still don't think that means they have a better team, just an easier path.
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Out of the top teams in the SEC, FL has the hardest SEC schedule, IMO. KY twice, MU twice, TN away, Bama at home. I can see them 3rd or 4th in SEC just because of their schedule.

Bama might not be the best team, but could easily have the best record in the SEC. They have the easiest schedule. TN twice and KY, MU, FL just once. Home and away are with TN, Aub, MSST, LSU, GA. I count 13 easy SEC wins on their schedule. Only 5 tough games with 3 of them at home.
 
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johnnybravo said:
Out of the top teams in the SEC, FL has the hardest SEC schedule, IMO. KY twice, MU twice, TN away, Bama at home. I can see them 3rd or 4th in SEC just because of their schedule.

Bama might not be the best team, but could easily have the best record in the SEC. They have the easiest schedule. TN twice and KY, MU, FL just once. Home and away are with TN, Aub, MSST, LSU, GA. I count 13 easy SEC wins on their schedule. Only 5 tough games with 3 of them at home.
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Thats a good point
 
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