The Section 103 Postgame Report-Vanderbilt

#52
#52
Bassmanbruno said:
I will be. Nothin wrong with his shot - he still shoots a better percentage than most on our team from the 3-point arc... its just that when he does miss it looks a lot worse sometimes.
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A high arc shot is is taught to create a softer touch at the rim and is just common sense when it comes to shooting percentage that a shot with higher arc is more likely to go in or get a shooters roll. With Scotty's shot their is too much arc and just like you said when he misses it looks much worse. From a coaches standpoint you look at it from a drain to an air ball and that = inconsistency. You want the shot to have arc but not so much that it can keep the ball from getting to the cylinder. Not only that it makes the shooter struggle with his confidence which scotty is. How many good shooters ( which hopson has potential to be) air ball free throws like hopson has?
 
#54
#54
allvol21 said:
A high arc shot is is taught to create a softer touch at the rim and is just common sense when it comes to shooting percentage that a shot with higher arc is more likely to go in or get a shooters roll. With Scotty's shot their is too much arc and just like you said when he misses it looks much worse. From a coaches standpoint you look at it from a drain to an air ball and that = inconsistency. You want the shot to have arc but not so much that it can keep the ball from getting to the cylinder. Not only that it makes the shooter struggle with his confidence which scotty is. How many good shooters ( which hopson has potential to be) air ball free throws like hopson has?
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It's still just not something you can mess with. That's the reason why the Titan's didn't mess with VY's awful throwing motion - it's a habit and something they've done for years... you just can't change it because it could turn out for the worse in the end.

I'd rather Scotty airball some threes than brick 80% of his shots.
 
#55
#55
hatvol96 said:
1. Tennessee did what they had to this week. A loss in either game would have been a disaster of massive proportions.
4. Vanderbilt is terrible. Stallings better hope his incoming class can provide some offense. Otherwise, they are going to be awful again next year.
6. UCONN-Pitt will be all kinds of fun Monday night. Both teams methodically went about taking care of business today.
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I know 1 and 4 are both true, but you know what? It always feels good to sweep the 'dores, regardless of how good they are. How 'bout just a little love for that?

Re: 6 - since I don't try to predict these things, what're the odds blood will be shed in that game, IYO?
 
#56
#56
Bassmanbruno said:
It's still just not something you can mess with. That's the reason why the Titan's didn't mess with VY's awful throwing motion - it's a habit and something they've done for years... you just can't change it because it could turn out for the worse in the end.

I'd rather Scotty air ball some threes than brick 80% of his shots.
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It's not something that you mess with when the player is confident and comfortable with it. Shooting is a few basic mechanics and the rest is repetition and making sure your shooting motion is consistent every shot.
I agree that it is hard to change a McDonald's all American's shot going into his sophomore year but I believe it will be mainly because scotty isn't as confident as he or CBP would like him to be. There is only one way to fix that go back to ground one and rebuild up.
 
#57
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allvol21 said:
It's not something that you mess with when the player is confident and comfortable with it. Shooting is a few basic mechanics and the rest is repetition and making sure your shooting motion is consistent every shot.
I agree that it is hard to change a McDonald's all American's shot going into his sophomore year but I believe it will be mainly because scotty isn't as confident as he or CBP would like him to be. There is only one way to fix that go back to ground one and rebuild up.
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Exactly what CBP said he was going to do. I guess some think that he was lying. Only time will tell.
 
#58
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allvol21 said:
It's not something that you mess with when the player is confident and comfortable with it. Shooting is a few basic mechanics and the rest is repetition and making sure your shooting motion is consistent every shot.
I agree that it is hard to change a McDonald's all American's shot going into his sophomore year but I believe it will be mainly because scotty isn't as confident as he or CBP would like him to be. There is only one way to fix that go back to ground one and rebuild up.
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Well I think 40% from downtown (was near 50% early on) for a slasher guard and not a shooter is confident enough. His problem isn't his shot - it's his freshman mistakes. I personally wouldn't risk it.

He could easily be a 20ppg guy with little to no adjustment to his shot but just a better grasp of his game and knowing when to drive or pass and commit less TOs. Oh - and a better frame. He's a slasher naturally - not a shooter - so he needs to get stronger so he can muscle his way in and finish in the paint easier.

Would it give him more confidence if he shot less airballs? Sure, you would assume so. But I think most of his confidence will come from improving other areas of his game he struggles in more so than his air balls. I know for sure he'd be even less confident if he's air ball free but clanking iron 80% of the time.
 
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#60
I dont see a drastic change being made, and him coming out with a completely different looking shot. The odds are that he has shot that way since he was little and that that is how he feels comfortable. May we see a little less arc, possibly, but i believe that that will be on his own. I see nothing wrong with the way he shoots, all that matters is if the ball goes in and he takes care of that just as good as anybody. Look at Shawn Marion the way he shoots, are you going to tell me that thats how a jump shot should look? It doesnt matter though because it goes in at a decent %, as long as Scotty continues to shoot decently I dont see a change being made. He can improve his consistency with his current style of shot just by getting in the gym more and shooting.
 
#61
#61
johnnybravo said:
Exactly what CBP said he was going to do. I guess some think that he was lying. Only time will tell.
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I think CBP said the issue with Scotty's shot was using too much elbow rather than wrist. He said using the elbow that much in the shot can cause a lot to go wrong - he mentioned that's why you can see air-balled free throws. CBP said they want to work with Scotty to move him away from the elbow shooting to using his wrists.
 
#62
#62
hatvol96 said:
4. Vanderbilt is terrible. Stallings better hope his incoming class can provide some offense. Otherwise, they are going to be awful again next year.
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Incoming freshman Jenkins will help Vandy on offense. He can score the basketball. He would start for them right now, as a senior in high school.
 
#63
#63
ole_orange said:
This wasn't a key moment or anything, but Brian William's 3 point shot in the first half might have been the most horrid shot I have ever seen at this level.
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Speaking of Williams, can he not dunk the ball with some authority to get the ORANGE up off their butts at home games, it sure would help.:lolabove::lolabove:
 
#64
#64
hatvol96 said:
6. UCONN-Pitt will be all kinds of fun Monday night. Both teams methodically went about taking care of business today.
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How much do you think the absence of Dyson hurts Uconn? In the absence of this injury, I would go with Uconn if I had to make a pick. But now I'm not so sure.
 
#65
#65
utbasketballloft said:
I dont see a drastic change being made, and him coming out with a completely different looking shot. The odds are that he has shot that way since he was little and that that is how he feels comfortable. May we see a little less arc, possibly, but i believe that that will be on his own. I see nothing wrong with the way he shoots, all that matters is if the ball goes in and he takes care of that just as good as anybody. Look at Shawn Marion the way he shoots, are you going to tell me that thats how a jump shot should look? It doesnt matter though because it goes in at a decent %, as long as Scotty continues to shoot decently I dont see a change being made. He can improve his consistency with his current style of shot just by getting in the gym more and shooting.
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I'm not talking about the way his shot looks or his shot being unorthodox. I'm talking about the high release that creates a higher lofted shot. In hopson's case a much higher trajectory, but thats not the point.

These high lofted shots a resulting in air ball or very ugly misses when he does miss. That results in Scotty's lack of confidence.

If you know this team you know he has been struggling with his confidence all year due to inconsistency.

Even if you don't know this team a basketball follower should know that a freshman going on the road and air balling a free throw doesn't help Scotty's already up and down confidence hearing " air ball....air ball".
 
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