The shut down thread

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General question here...

Why do so many of everyone's Twitter sources seem like over-caffeinated, nicotine withdrawal angry, snide jerks?
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
WATCH: Passersby Yell ‘F*** Trump’ at Angel Families Outside Capitol

A group of passersby began yelling “F*** Trump” Wednesday at Americans who were sharing the stories of loved ones killed by illegal aliens.

The eight young people were walking between the U.S. Capitol building and a group of Angel Families holding large photos of their dead loved ones and sharing the stories of the American lives cut short by illegal aliens.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ll-****-trump-angel-families-outside-capitol/
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Liberals.
 
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Border Security Bill Provides Aid, Buses, Legal Shields to Migrants

Democrat legislators added numerous aid and welfare programs in the 2019 spending bill to support the growing wave of economic migrants, even as they agreed to provide $1,375 billion for construction of a border wall.

The border spending bill for the Department of Homeland Security offers “$192,700,000 for improved medical care, transportation, and consumables to better ensure the health and safety of migrants who are temporarily in U.S. Customs and Protection] custody,” according to a congressional Explanatory Statement of the provisions.

The spending includes funds to aid and feeds economic migrants as they journey across the border towards jobs in U.S. cities, as well as funds to bus the migrants from the border to pro-migration non-profits:

To facilitate these additional requirements, the conferees provide $192,700,000 above the request to include $128,000,000 for contract medical professionals, $40,200,000 for increased consumable commodities such as food, infant formula and diapers.​
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Border officials are also directed to bus migrants from reception centers directly to the welcome centers run by pro-migration aid groups:
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Within the $114,147,000 increase above the fiscal year 2018 funding level for the Transportation and Removal Program, ICE is directed to provide for the transportation of migrants to such shelters based on where collaborating organizations have open sheltering capacity, including during surge periods. ICE shall immediately notify the Committees in advance of any decision to deny such transportation.​
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The flow of cheap workers to U.S. cities is a boon to business groups because it lowers their payroll costs and spikes their sales of food, autos, and housing to migrants. Government agencies also benefit from the inflow of more poor people — while ordinary Americans pay the price of reduced wages and raised housing costs.

The bill was drafted by a panel of 17 GOP and Democrat legislators who sit on the House and Senate appropriations committees. However, none of the GOP members on the panel are immigration experts, while the Democrat side included several legislators who are determined to raise the inflow of migrants. This imbalance allowed the Democrats to compromise on some major funding issues — such as funding for a border wall — while snatching important political wins by quietly imposing pro-migration policies.

The bill includes many large programs to help illegal migrants, as well as people who walk up to the border to ask for asylum so they may get work permits. The language also includes backdoor curbs on enforcement agencies.

For example, the legislation reopens the joint cartel-to-agency smuggling route for so-called “Unaccompanied Alien Children.” Former President Barack Obama opened this route when his deputies agreed to let illegal migrant parents in the United States “sponsor” — pick up — their foreign children from government shelters after the cartels deliver the children to the border agency. President Donald Trump’s deputies have been shutting down this route by arresting illegals who try to “sponsor” their children from the government shelters:
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Here's a gem from the spending bill. Section 224 (a) says that ICE may not remove any sponsor or *potential sponsor* or *member of a household* of a UAC. That's de facto sanctuary for anyone near a UAC. Ridiculous. 30-40% of MS-13 arrests have been UACs.​
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The language also offers a legal shield to illegals who agree to pay cartel-affiliated smugglers to move additional children into the United States. The shield is created by the language barring officials from deporting people who are “a sponsor, a potential sponsor, or member of a household of a sponsor or potential sponsor”:​

The bill directs border agencies to spend $1 million on “rescue beacons” so that migrants who try to sneak through the deserts and scrub land along the border can call for help when they are exhausted.​

The bill adds $220 million to build new border reception centers for illegal migrants and asylum migrants, even though the vast majority of migrants say they are eager to take very low wage jobs in U.S. cities, undercutting the ability of Americans to earn a decent living:​
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The conferees provide a total of $270,222,000 for construction and facility improvements, an increase of $222,000,000 above the request. The amount includes $192,000,000 for a new central processing facility in El Paso, Texas, $30,000,000 for renovations to the existing McAllen Central Processing Center … The conferees expect the new El Paso facility and renovations to the existing processing center in McAllen, Texas, will make them more appropriate for use as temporary holding sites for individuals in CBP custody, particularly families and unaccompanied children. At a minimum, these facilities should be equipped with appropriate temperature controls and avoid chain-link fence-type enclosures. CBP is also encouraged to use a more appropriate blanket type than currently utilized.​

The extra construction money is also intended to help reduce the number of migrants who are detained until their claims for legal asylum are accepted or rejected. For example, the budget adds $30 million to ensure that 100,000 migrants in the federal welcome centers can get an “Alternative to Detention” option, such as monitoring devices attached to the migrants’ ankles. Without enforced detention, the vast majority of economic migrants who expect to lose their asylum cases rationally disappear into the growing population of illegal migrants:​
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The budget also provides $30 million to hire pro-migration groups that will guide migrants towards winning asylum:​
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The budget plan also directs the Department of Homeland Security to help pro-migration lawyers and political groups contact and aid the migrants:​
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Business lobbies back the federal government’s economic policy of using both legal and illegal migration to boost economic growth.

Border Security Bill Provides Aid, Buses, Legal Shields to Migrants
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Border Security Bill Provides Aid, Buses, Legal Shields to Migrants

Democrat legislators added numerous aid and welfare programs in the 2019 spending bill to support the growing wave of economic migrants, even as they agreed to provide $1,375 billion for construction of a border wall.

The border spending bill for the Department of Homeland Security offers “$192,700,000 for improved medical care, transportation, and consumables to better ensure the health and safety of migrants who are temporarily in U.S. Customs and Protection] custody,” according to a congressional Explanatory Statement of the provisions.

The spending includes funds to aid and feeds economic migrants as they journey across the border towards jobs in U.S. cities, as well as funds to bus the migrants from the border to pro-migration non-profits:

To facilitate these additional requirements, the conferees provide $192,700,000 above the request to include $128,000,000 for contract medical professionals, $40,200,000 for increased consumable commodities such as food, infant formula and diapers.​
Border officials are also directed to bus migrants from reception centers directly to the welcome centers run by pro-migration aid groups:
​
Within the $114,147,000 increase above the fiscal year 2018 funding level for the Transportation and Removal Program, ICE is directed to provide for the transportation of migrants to such shelters based on where collaborating organizations have open sheltering capacity, including during surge periods. ICE shall immediately notify the Committees in advance of any decision to deny such transportation.​
The flow of cheap workers to U.S. cities is a boon to business groups because it lowers their payroll costs and spikes their sales of food, autos, and housing to migrants. Government agencies also benefit from the inflow of more poor people — while ordinary Americans pay the price of reduced wages and raised housing costs.

The bill was drafted by a panel of 17 GOP and Democrat legislators who sit on the House and Senate appropriations committees. However, none of the GOP members on the panel are immigration experts, while the Democrat side included several legislators who are determined to raise the inflow of migrants. This imbalance allowed the Democrats to compromise on some major funding issues — such as funding for a border wall — while snatching important political wins by quietly imposing pro-migration policies.

The bill includes many large programs to help illegal migrants, as well as people who walk up to the border to ask for asylum so they may get work permits. The language also includes backdoor curbs on enforcement agencies.

For example, the legislation reopens the joint cartel-to-agency smuggling route for so-called “Unaccompanied Alien Children.” Former President Barack Obama opened this route when his deputies agreed to let illegal migrant parents in the United States “sponsor” — pick up — their foreign children from government shelters after the cartels deliver the children to the border agency. President Donald Trump’s deputies have been shutting down this route by arresting illegals who try to “sponsor” their children from the government shelters:
​
Here's a gem from the spending bill. Section 224 (a) says that ICE may not remove any sponsor or *potential sponsor* or *member of a household* of a UAC. That's de facto sanctuary for anyone near a UAC. Ridiculous. 30-40% of MS-13 arrests have been UACs.​
​

The language also offers a legal shield to illegals who agree to pay cartel-affiliated smugglers to move additional children into the United States. The shield is created by the language barring officials from deporting people who are “a sponsor, a potential sponsor, or member of a household of a sponsor or potential sponsor”:​

The bill directs border agencies to spend $1 million on “rescue beacons” so that migrants who try to sneak through the deserts and scrub land along the border can call for help when they are exhausted.​

The bill adds $220 million to build new border reception centers for illegal migrants and asylum migrants, even though the vast majority of migrants say they are eager to take very low wage jobs in U.S. cities, undercutting the ability of Americans to earn a decent living:​
​
The conferees provide a total of $270,222,000 for construction and facility improvements, an increase of $222,000,000 above the request. The amount includes $192,000,000 for a new central processing facility in El Paso, Texas, $30,000,000 for renovations to the existing McAllen Central Processing Center … The conferees expect the new El Paso facility and renovations to the existing processing center in McAllen, Texas, will make them more appropriate for use as temporary holding sites for individuals in CBP custody, particularly families and unaccompanied children. At a minimum, these facilities should be equipped with appropriate temperature controls and avoid chain-link fence-type enclosures. CBP is also encouraged to use a more appropriate blanket type than currently utilized.​

The extra construction money is also intended to help reduce the number of migrants who are detained until their claims for legal asylum are accepted or rejected. For example, the budget adds $30 million to ensure that 100,000 migrants in the federal welcome centers can get an “Alternative to Detention” option, such as monitoring devices attached to the migrants’ ankles. Without enforced detention, the vast majority of economic migrants who expect to lose their asylum cases rationally disappear into the growing population of illegal migrants:​
​

The budget also provides $30 million to hire pro-migration groups that will guide migrants towards winning asylum:​
​

The budget plan also directs the Department of Homeland Security to help pro-migration lawyers and political groups contact and aid the migrants:​
​

Business lobbies back the federal government’s economic policy of using both legal and illegal migration to boost economic growth.

Border Security Bill Provides Aid, Buses, Legal Shields to Migrants
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And not a single dollar for landmines, smh..
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Now, I am confused. Trump is telling us the rest of the wall is already being built and is almost finished... but we need to declare a national emergency over it?
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There were sections already being re built from what I have heard. He may never get the 5+ billions but damn sure more than 1 bill in this deal
 
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volfanjustin said:
There were sections already being re built from what I have heard. He may never get the 5+ billions but damn sure more than 1 bill in this deal
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No, this was not what he was claiming. There are not currently any new sections of a wall under construction at the southern border (unlike what he said). There are repair and replace operations under way. This was a flat out lie by Trump.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
No, this was not what he was claiming. There are not currently any new sections of a wall under construction at the southern border (unlike what he said). There are repair and replace operations under way. This was a flat out lie by Trump.
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Couldn't care less, there soon will be. Sorry for the bad news
 
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volfanjustin said:
Listened to a little bit of Shep Smith, I kept expecting that punk a$$ liberal to burst into tears. Love it. WINNING
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Winning what? Trump is not getting anything close to $5 billion for the construction of new fencing. He will be sued over this declaration of a national emergency and it could drag out for a very long time and set a bad precedent in the process. This is sloppy politics where nobody wins in the end.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Winning what? Trump is not getting anything close to $5 billion for the construction of new fencing. He will be sued over this declaration of a national emergency and it could drag out for a very long time and set a bad precedent in the process. This is sloppy politics where nobody wins in the end.
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Agree he won't get 5 billion but I bet he gets more than what's in this bill. Just heard John Roberts on Fox saying he will be able to easily access some money without any push back but eventually he will get to a point to where there is a fight. That's a fight worthy of being fought
 
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volfanjustin said:
Agree he won't get 5 billion but I bet he gets more than what's in this bill. Just heard John Roberts on Fox saying he will be able to easily access some money without any push back but eventually he will get to a point to where there is a fight. That's a fight worthy of being fought
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It's setting a bad precedent (there will eventually be a Democrat in the White House again, who will now be able to declare a national emergency over a whim - such as climate change) and what was gained over this? An extra 100 miles of fencing? Maybe? This is horrible leadership by Trump.
 
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Trump prepared to sign border security bill, declare national emergency, McConnell says

President Trump is prepared to sign the border security compromise package to avert another government shutdown if passed by Congress and will declare a national emergency to obtain funding for the border wall, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell revealed Thursday.

Speaking on the Senate floor, McConnell said he had just spoken to the president about the border security bill set to be voted on in Congress. McConnell said he supported Trump declaring a national emergency, something the president has suggested for weeks he might do.

The Senate is set to vote on the compromise first on Thursday, followed by the House.

McConnell says Trump prepared to sign border-security bill and will declare national emergency
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's setting a bad precedent (there will eventually be a Democrat in the White House again, who will now be able to declare a national emergency over a whim - such as climate change) and what was gained over this? An extra 100 miles of fencing? Maybe? This is horrible leadership by Trump.
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You all are just sad you can't go on and on today about how plastic pelosi owned Trump today. It will be ok don't get too upset because it's going to be harder for future undocumented democrats to cross the border.
 
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