....The Stay is granted. ....Players bummed.

#26
#26
That's ridiculous. Let me pick apart the ways in which that incentive idea sucks.

1. These are guys in the NFL. Some of them (SOME) make a lot of money, but that is not one of the main reasons they play. Fear of losing is all the motivation 99% of guys in the League need.

2. Team sport. This ain't MLB where the team concept is comparatively minimal or the NBA where a single great player can guide his team to many wins. In football, an individual's success is about 10% his effort and skill and 90% of the effort and skill of the guys around him. Paul Posluszny is one of the better LB's in the league, but he would get paid nothing because he's on the Bills roster while the #2 or #3 guy on the Pats or Colts could surpass that with incentives. Garbage.

3. Fairness. This goes back to a key concept people seem to forget about this lockout: If the owners can group up and collectively bargain their end (which they are running away with) then so can the players. With that, if the players are taking massive risks by playing the game, then the owners need to be taking risks by signing players. Yes, it sucks when you write up a big contract for a guy who doesn't work hard or can't cut it. You know what? Live with it, you're choosing whose services you buy.

4. Rookie salary cap. I wanna get on board with this, but it's the way market values have been going. The average NFL player is in the league what, three or four years? And then they leave mostly due to injury, which is mostly chronic in nature. If they're not gonna get medical coverage, then they damn sure deserve their market value to pay for the medical bills for the rest of their life to treat injuries that they got getting to the NFL in the first place.
 
#27
#27
That's ridiculous. Let me pick apart the ways in which that incentive idea sucks.

1. These are guys in the NFL. Some of them (SOME) make a lot of money, but that is not one of the main reasons they play. Fear of losing is all the motivation 99% of guys in the League need.

2. Team sport. This ain't MLB where the team concept is comparatively minimal or the NBA where a single great player can guide his team to many wins. In football, an individual's success is about 10% his effort and skill and 90% of the effort and skill of the guys around him. Paul Posluszny is one of the better LB's in the league, but he would get paid nothing because he's on the Bills roster while the #2 or #3 guy on the Pats or Colts could surpass that with incentives. Garbage.

3. Fairness. This goes back to a key concept people seem to forget about this lockout: If the owners can group up and collectively bargain their end (which they are running away with) then so can the players. With that, if the players are taking massive risks by playing the game, then the owners need to be taking risks by signing players. Yes, it sucks when you write up a big contract for a guy who doesn't work hard or can't cut it. You know what? Live with it, you're choosing whose services you buy.

4. Rookie salary cap. I wanna get on board with this, but it's the way market values have been going. The average NFL player is in the league what, three or four years? And then they leave mostly due to injury, which is mostly chronic in nature. If they're not gonna get medical coverage, then they damn sure deserve their market value to pay for the medical bills for the rest of their life to treat injuries that they got getting to the NFL in the first place.

Fair enough, nice post. I feel like I should walk funny when I get up from my desk.
 
#28
#28
I can see where many fans could align themselves with the billionaire owners. So much common ground there.


/yep/sarcasm
 
#29
#29
Fear of losing is all the motivation 99% of guys in the League need.
Agreed. I always hear about how they NFL is just full of greed players that only want money and don't care about the game. I don't understand that at all. I'm pretty sure players do want to win the Super Bowl. Just because they make money doesn't mean they don't care about the game.
 
#30
#30
This guy doesnt seem greedy. Making $90 a day teaching

Broncos’ Bruton spending the lockout as a substitute teacher - Shutdown Corner - NFLBlog - Yahoo! Sports

he's spending the lockout as a substitute teacher at his old high school in Ohio, teaching social studies and credit recovery (yes, they have those classes for teenagers now) for the not-so princely sum of $90 per day.

Bruton, who majored in political science and sociology at Notre Dame and received a Bachelor's Degree in 2009, applied for and received a one-year substitute teacher's license from the Ohio Department of Education, according to Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post.

"I'm just trying to keep busy," Bruton told the Post, "and it's nice to be able to give back to my community."
 

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