The stupidest scandal of the year just got even stupider

#26
#26
Did you say the same thing about Clinton? That it was a non news story? There is an alleged crime, you have a politician trying to blame other factors for his problems, and the party is blaming the other side for the whole issue....erie parallels to the 90's here.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Did you say the same thing about Clinton? That it was a non news story? There is an alleged crime, you have a politician trying to blame other factors for his problems, and the party is blaming the other side for the whole issue....erie parallels to the 90's here.
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Did Clinton resign?
 
#28
#28
There are huge points that are the exact same. I repeat....did you say the same thing about Clinton's stupid scandal? If there was nothing there and Foley engaged in consensual conversation, why did he run?
 
#29
#29
You also failed to address the other points. You missed the biggest one where there are alleged crimes here. Last time I checked sex crimes with underage persons was not just a stupid scandal.
 
#30
#30
Just for the sake of being me......

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU OCT 5 2006 2:53:48 ET XXXXX

CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY
**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**

According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats. This source, an ally of Edmund, also adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund.

The news come on the heels that former FBI Chief Louis Freeh has been named to investigate the mess.

Developing...
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The bottom line is that this is blowing up in the faces of the media and the Democrats.

Is Foley gay? Yes.

Did he send the IMs? Yes

But…

The page (we now learn) was of legal age NOT underage like ABC claimed

And that the page, for whatever reason, was the aggressor NOT preyed on like ABC claimed

And

The page now claims not to be gay!

And that none of this was ever meant to get out but…

One of Soro’s toadies got a hold of it yeah wayyyyy back in August, and come October….POW!
 
#31
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CSpindizzy said:
There are huge points that are the exact same. I repeat....did you say the same thing about Clinton's stupid scandal? If there was nothing there and Foley engaged in consensual conversation, why did he run?
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When Hastert lies under oath, I'll consider the two scandals equal.
 
#32
#32
So you have to lie under oath to make this 'worthwhile'? I guess sex with an adult intern is worse than soliciting minors?
 
#33
#33
So you have to lie under oath to make this 'worthwhile'? I guess sex with an adult intern is worse than soliciting minors?
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You say potato, I say potatoe..........
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Did you say the same thing about Clinton? That it was a non news story? There is an alleged crime, you have a politician trying to blame other factors for his problems, and the party is blaming the other side for the whole issue....erie parallels to the 90's here.
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You cannot even compare this to Clinton. Clinton was under investigation for sexual assault and rape, therefore his current sexual privations were relevant. Also, Clinton went on to lie about his behavior, under oath, to a Grand Jury. The story was not so much that Clinton committed adultery, it was that Clinton committed perjury.

Foley has accepted responsibility for this and he has thus resigned. Since it is redundant for the left to attack Foley, they have shifted their focus to other Republicans to try to keep this an issue.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
And we have quite a few on the Right making a bigger issue with some vast Left Wing Soros/ABCNews/DNC/Clinton/media/CREW conspiracy than with Foley's behavior. If I wasn't mistaken I'd say after reading a few conservative sites you'd think George Soros himself was the one "chatting online with babes all day".
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Hastert probably should have never made the ABC News comment, but I don't think there's any doubt about the reason for the timing of all of this.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
So you have to lie under oath to make this 'worthwhile'? I guess sex with an adult intern is worse than soliciting minors?
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Let's examine this: Perjury=Criminal. Having online, consentual sex with an 18 year old=Poor judgment.
 
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therealUT said:
You cannot even compare this to Clinton. Clinton was under investigation for sexual assault and rape, therefore his current sexual privations were relevant. Also, Clinton went on to lie about his behavior, under oath, to a Grand Jury. The story was not so much that Clinton committed adultery, it was that Clinton committed perjury.

Foley has accepted responsibility for this and he has thus resigned. Since it is redundant for the left to attack Foley, they have shifted their focus to other Republicans to try to keep this an issue.
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Umm....how long did this "stupid scandal" go on BEFORE he perjured himself? There was quite a gap in time here in case you missed that. Are Foley's sexual privations not relevant? Considering quite a few people knew of his behavior and did little to continuing monitoring it.

Foley accepted responsibility? I guess blaming alcohol and the Catholic Church is accepting responsibility. I'll make sure and pass that on to my kids as the proper way of accepting responsibility.

How is it redundant to attack Foley? Considering he's being investigated for crimes of laws he helped push for, I see no redundancy.
 
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therealUT said:
Let's examine this: Perjury=Criminal. Having online, consentual sex with an 18 year old=Poor judgment.
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Again, these people were not all 18 and again I guess you are conveniently ignoring the laws that state this behavior is illegal. You are conveniently forgetting these key points.
 
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GAVol said:
Hastert probably should have never made the ABC News comment, but I don't think there's any doubt about the reason for the timing of all of this.
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Hmmm....I guess this being taken to the FBI back in July by the evil liberal Soros group was timed as well? Seems strange that the GOP leadership had as much info as these groups and their inaction is proper but the liberal groups action was improper.
 
#42
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CSpindizzy said:
There are huge points that are the exact same. I repeat....did you say the same thing about Clinton's stupid scandal? If there was nothing there and Foley engaged in consensual conversation, why did he run?
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I repeat, did Clinton resign.
 
#43
#43
Resigning is one aspect. you seem to be ignoring all of the other factors involved as well. Picking and choosing one out of a list of items....try harder.
 
#44
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CSpindizzy said:
You also failed to address the other points. You missed the biggest one where there are alleged crimes here. Last time I checked sex crimes with underage persons was not just a stupid scandal.
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So every sex crime committed in the US gets this coverage. I know he was a Congressman, but he resigned. If there are criminal charges, let the authorities handle it. I do not need to see non stop coverage on the news about it. If he had not resigned, then I would hold a different point of view.
 
#46
#46
So every sex crime committed in the US gets this coverage.
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Of course not, but an elected official during election time.........

This is blood in the water for media.........
 
#47
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CSpindizzy said:
Resigning is one aspect. you seem to be ignoring all of the other factors involved as well. Picking and choosing one out of a list of items....try harder.
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What am I ignoring, if he had not resigned, I would care. But he has, so I do not.
 
#48
#48
CSpindizzy said:
Again, these people were not all 18 and again I guess you are conveniently ignoring the laws that state this behavior is illegal. You are conveniently forgetting these key points.
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In the first place, there is no proof that he has had any inappropriate conversations with anyone who was under 18. AOL IM logs, according to reports, capture time without dates. Since the page indeed turned 18 while he was still a page, it is going to be nearly impossible to determine that the IM conversation in question took place while he was still 17. So, there goes that argument. Also, that FBI law will not stand up to scrutiny in states that have an Age of Consent of less than 18. It just hasn't had the opportunity to be appealed yet in those states. However, common sense rules here: if you can have actual intercourse with a 16 year old, then judges will rule that you can talk about sex with a 16 year old also. Or, the age of consent in said states will be raised to 18. Either way though, the law does not pass the common sense test.

Finally, Foley was not under a criminal investigation when this occurred. So, no, it is not pertinent...as much as you would like it to be. Foley might have blamed other factors, but his actions speak louder than his words: he resigned. He gave up his political career. That is taking much more responsibility than has ever been seen on the other side of the aisle...Studds, Frank, Clinton. (Also, I could care less if you point this out as being "Well, what we did was wrong but look at them.") If there is going to be outrage over a pervert sending instant messages, then there should have been outrage, by the same people, over a pervert engaging in intercourse with a 16 year old, a pervert getting with a prostitute, and a pervert lying to a Grand Jury. It is relevant.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Hmmm....I guess this being taken to the FBI back in July by the evil liberal Soros group was timed as well? Seems strange that the GOP leadership had as much info as these groups and their inaction is proper but the liberal groups action was improper.
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Come on . . . I'm not defending anybodys' actions, but you have to acknowledge that this is at least in part an October surprise.
 
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