The truth about fans and this hire.

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Whomever we hire, if he is successful, most people will say they supported the hire. If he isn't, they will just bash the hire. Everybody please step away from the computer and just let it play out.
 
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No, I really hope he proves me wrong. I'll be happy to own up to it. But I was right about Dooley and I doubt I'll be wrong about this one.

Strong is a solid coach. But he'll never beat Saban and he'll never win a championship here. I know we could have done better.
 
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Is he my first choice? No, but UT is my team so I'll support the hire. I think we will learn a lot by how he can pull together this recruiting class.
 
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oregonvol said:
No, I really hope he proves me wrong. I'll be happy to own up to it. But Dooley didn't.

Strong is a solid coach. But he'll never beat Saban and he'll never win a championship here. I know we could have done better.
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This. At best an 8-4 or 9-3 coach here. It is truly sad to see how low our standard of success has become at Tennessee. Bring back the big guy or shock me with Gruden or Chip Kelly. Saban will be licking his lips if we hire this goon.
 
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I am going into this one with optimism since at least I have heard of all of these guys before and know their track records. Having to be told, "Louisiana Tech's coach" when I ask, "who" was not reason for optimism.
 
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TheBigOne10 said:
This. At best an 8-4 or 9-3 coach here. It is truly sad to see how low our standard of success has become at Tennessee. Bring back the big guy or shock me with Gruden or Chip Kelly. Saban will be licking his lips if we hire this goon.
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Yeah, Saban got some bad news today with Arkansas hiring Bielema. At least he can count on Hart to cheer him up.
 
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He is young and has some to learn about being a head coach, that being said he is light years ahead of dooley, he is a top defensive coordinator and a top recruiter, people saying he can't beat saban need to realize he is close and younger and will learn, he can and will bring is back, there isn't a coach in the east I would call better (minus spurrier)
 
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I'm going to be really happy if the hire is Charlie Strong. I'm also very ticked off at the way the search was conducted by Hart and all the negative PR hits that Tennessee took throughout the process.
 
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TheBigOne10 said:
This. At best an 8-4 or 9-3 coach here. It is truly sad to see how low our standard of success has become at Tennessee. Bring back the big guy or shock me with Gruden or Chip Kelly. Saban will be licking his lips if we hire this goon.
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Yeah, since we're going to get Gruden or Kelly. Seriously, who do you want if not Strong? I would love a better coach than Strong but, from our realistic choices, we don't have a lot of picks.
 
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Posting the real truth about our fans and this hire would get me banned.
 
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Has anyone else seen the rumor that Strong may be hiring Randy Shannon as his DC? I think we're going to see a major upgrade in our defense next year.
 
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oregonvol said:
No, I really hope he proves me wrong. I'll be happy to own up to it. But Dooley didn't.

Strong is a solid coach. But he'll never beat Saban and he'll never win a championship here. I know we could have done better.
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Who is better? Yes, we ALL wanted the "home-run" hire in guys like Gruden, Stoops, Patterson, Petersen, etc., but those guys weren't happening.

Gundy was too connected to OSU to pull him away from there.

Arky hired a Big 10 guy with no real connections to the South and SEC. Yes, he did great at Wisconsin, but he will struggle early on in the SEC.

Strong has question marks, but he is the best realistic hire left. He has coached in the SEC, was a top-flight recruiter when he was there, and just took a dinky Louisville team to the BCS in his 3rd year. He has connections to the South and SEC and is a defensive-minded guy. Yeah, maybe he wasn't the BEST hire, but he was the best guy we could get right now. I'd rather have Strong over Bielema, Malzahn, Fisher, and Fedora, for sure.
 
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dreVol said:
Has anyone else seen the rumor that Strong may be hiring Randy Shannon as his DC? I think we're going to see a major upgrade in our defense next year.
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This is the only way I could get on board with this hire.
 
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I don't understand. Hart decided who he wanted, and if all indications are right, he's gonna get him. Nobody hired Gruden, Patterson, Pettersen, Stoops, Saban, because they wasn't leaving. This is the best possible hire that could have been made, even if its Gundy, it's still the best hire possible.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
He is young and has some to learn about being a head coach, that being said he is light years ahead of dooley, he is a top defensive coordinator and a top recruiter, people saying he can't beat saban need to realize he is close and younger and will learn, he can and will bring is back, there isn't a coach in the east I would call better (minus spurrier)
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Good recruiter and has a keen defensive mind. Not young however, he and Richt are the same age, 52.
 
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Personally, I have an open mind about Strong (if he is in fact the new head coach). However, it seems that this whole Coaching Search has been bungled from the beginning. 3 weeks to come up with Charlie Strong. Strong may be a good coach, even possibly very good. But is he the best option out there? Is he the best option money can buy? I don't buy that argument. There are some really great coaches (Gundy, Patterson, Peterson...).

Personally this seems (again if it's true) like it's a stop gap measure to get the University and athletics back in to the red. It's a less expensive, less risk hire that looks good on paper and hopefully will work out. It's not a home run, it's not a fan inspiring hire. jmo
 
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JoeKyleVol said:
Who is better? Yes, we ALL wanted the "home-run" hire in guys like Gruden, Stoops, Patterson, Petersen, etc., but those guys weren't happening.

Gundy was too connected to OSU to pull him away from there.

Arky hired a Big 10 guy with no real connections to the South and SEC. Yes, he did great at Wisconsin, but he will struggle early on in the SEC.

Strong has question marks, but he is the best realistic hire left. He has coached in the SEC, was a top-flight recruiter when he was there, and just took a dinky Louisville team to the BCS in his 3rd year. He has connections to the South and SEC and is a defensive-minded guy. Yeah, maybe he wasn't the BEST hire, but he was the best guy we could get right now. I'd rather have Strong over Bielema, Malzahn, Fisher, and Fedora, for sure.
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Pretty much anyone sane would take Bielema over Strong.

And how do we know Petersen or Patterson wouldn't happen? Did we offer them 6 million a year? Did we spend any time trying to woo them?

Arkansas had the right idea: announce that you want to make someone the highest paid coach in college football, throw out offers to the biggest names, and wait for someone to say "Hey I'd like to make a fortune and compete at the highest level". It worked and they got a home run. We went straight after a solid, unspectacular coach almost immediately. It's like we were scared to really even try.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
He is young and has some to learn about being a head coach, that being said he is light years ahead of dooley, he is a top defensive coordinator and a top recruiter, people saying he can't beat saban need to realize he is close and younger and will learn, he can and will bring is back, there isn't a coach in the east I would call better (minus spurrier)
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He is 52 and his class at Louisville is not that good. He might get us to 7-8 wins. And as far as his defense is concerned go look up how many points Syracuse put on him a few weeks ago.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
He is young and has some to learn about being a head coach, that being said he is light years ahead of dooley, he is a top defensive coordinator and a top recruiter, people saying he can't beat saban need to realize he is close and younger and will learn, he can and will bring is back, there isn't a coach in the east I would call better (minus spurrier)
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Young? Strong is 52.
 
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oregonvol said:
No, I really hope he proves me wrong. I'll be happy to own up to it. But I was right about Dooley and I doubt I'll be wrong about this one.

Strong is a solid coach. But he'll never beat Saban and he'll never win a championship here. I know we could have done better.
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The question is who would be better? How do you know that several other coaches didn't turn Hart down?
 
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oregonvol said:
Pretty much anyone sane would take Bielema over Strong.

And how do we know Petersen or Patterson wouldn't happen? Did we offer them 6 million a year? Did we spend any time trying to woo them?

Arkansas had the right idea: announce that you want to make someone the highest paid coach in college football, throw out offers to the biggest names, and wait for someone to say "Hey I'd like to make a fortune and compete at the highest level". It worked and they got a home run. We went straight after a solid, unspectacular coach almost immediately. It's like we were scared to really even try.
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Bret Bielema

Dude will never make it in the SEC.
Gentleman's code in recruiting?
Never work.
 
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TheBigOne10 said:
This. At best an 8-4 or 9-3 coach here. It is truly sad to see how low our standard of success has become at Tennessee. Bring back the big guy or shock me with Gruden or Chip Kelly. Saban will be licking his lips if we hire this goon.
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So your solution is to bring back Fulmer, whose lax recruiting and inability to keep up with his contemporaries is the reason we're in this hole, or to take massive PR black eyes when Chip Kelly and Gruden publicly rebuff our attempts to woo them to Knoxville? Interesting logic. So when all three of those options are taken off the table (they were never on there to begin with) what direction would you like to go in?

Gundy - Has done a good job, but not stellar, with Ok St. Won a conference championship the year Texas and OU were both terrible. ZERO experience in the SEC. Average to better than average recruiter.

Strong - Was a proven DC in the SEC for nearly a decade (TN was near to dead last in total D in the country this last season). Good recruiter in the areas we need to recruit. Just led his team to a conference championship, albeit in a weak conference.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
He is young and has some to learn about being a head coach, that being said he is light years ahead of dooley, he is a top defensive coordinator and a top recruiter, people saying he can't beat saban need to realize he is close and younger and will learn, he can and will bring is back, there isn't a coach in the east I would call better (minus spurrier)
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We are UT, top ten all time winningest programs in DI ball. We are not a learn on the job type of program. Established coaches only, please.
 
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