The "U" thread

[therealUT]

"Magic Dust" is much easier to find in Miami than it is in Destin.

With all the talent that Miami brings in and then sends to the pros every year, the lack of championships is astonishing, and proof that there is absolutely no magic in that program.

 

[hatvol96]

With all the talent that Miami brings in and then sends to the pros every year, the lack of championships is astonishing, and proof that there is absolutely no magic in that program.

How many National Championships have they won since '83? I believe the correct answer is "more than everyone else."

 

[VolinArizona]

How many National Championships have they won since '83? I believe the correct answer is "more than everyone else."

How dare you go back so long!

 

[hatvol96]

How dare you go back so long!

OK, let's go all the way back to 2001. I believe they had a pretty good team that year.

 

[VolinArizona]

OK, let's go all the way back to 2001. I believe they had a pretty good team that year.

Thats more like it!

 

[therealUT]

How many National Championships have they won since '83? I believe the correct answer is "more than everyone else."

I could care less if it is more than everyone else. It should be, they have more talent than every other team. Easy to recruit an 18 year old kid to spend 4 years in Miami, as opposed to Lincoln, Ann Arbor, Knoxville, etc.

Along with the cupcake schedule that Miami played until they joined the new ACC.

 

[VolinArizona]

I could care less if it is more than everyone else. It should be, they have more talent than every other team. Easy to recruit an 18 year old kid to spend 4 years in Miami, as opposed to Lincoln, Ann Arbor, Knoxville, etc.

Along with the cupcake schedule that Miami played until they joined the new ACC.

What are you talking about? Knoxville has the SUNSPHERE!

 

[hatvol96]

I could care less if it is more than everyone else. It should be, they have more talent than every other team. Easy to recruit an 18 year old kid to spend 4 years in Miami, as opposed to Lincoln, Ann Arbor, Knoxville, etc.

Along with the cupcake schedule that Miami played until they joined the new ACC.

Ah, time to educate. Ann Arbor? The Canes have gone there and won. Knoxville? Check. State College? That's an affirmative. Tallahassee? Many times. Gainesville? When the Gators aren't to scared to play them. Norman? There too. The myth that Miami has played easy schedules, especially prior to their joining the Big East, simply isn't borne out by the numbers. They play anybody, anywhere, anytime.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

They play anybody, anywhere, anytime.

I agree, Pat Hill and Fresno State are the bomb! :focus:

 

[VolinArizona]

I agree, Pat Hill and Fresno State are the bomb! :focus:

Actually they are. If the day comes when Fulmer retires and Pat Hill becomes head coach, it will be the best day since Jan 3 1998.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Actually they are. If the day comes when Fulmer retires and Pat Hill becomes head coach, it will be the best day since Jan 3 1998.

I will settle for Petrino and company...................... :twocents:

 

[VolinArizona]

I will settle for Petrino and company...................... :twocents:

Either way, I'd be happy.

 

[kptvol]

Actually they are. If the day comes when Fulmer retires and Pat Hill becomes head coach, it will be the best day since Jan 3 1998.

Pat Hill can't win his lame conference anymore than Fulmer can win the SEC. He does, however, know how to rock the handlebar mustache.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Either way, I'd be happy.

Two Vol fans agree on something.......hmmmmm.......

Now if I can only convince you and Hat that Kansas State will win the Big 12 North then we will have three in agreement.

 

[hatvol96]

Two Vol fans agree on something.......hmmmmm.......

Now if I can only convince you and Hat that Kansas State will win the Big 12 North then we will have three in agreement.

Kansas State will be looking forward to the beginning of the Huggins Era by mid October.

 

[VolinArizona]

Pat Hill can't win his lame conference anymore than Fulmer can win the SEC. He does, however, know how to rock the handlebar mustache.

Pat Hill is the best mid major coach out there right now.

 

[utvolpj]

Actually they are. If the day comes when Fulmer retires and Pat Hill becomes head coach, it will be the best day since Jan 3 1998.

What happened on that date?

 

[VolinArizona]

What happened on that date?

I made a year in advance prediction that Tennessee would win the championship! DUH!

(oops)

 

[therealUT]

Ah, time to educate. Ann Arbor? The Canes have gone there and won. Knoxville? Check. State College? That's an affirmative. Tallahassee? Many times. Gainesville? When the Gators aren't to scared to play them. Norman? There too. The myth that Miami has played easy schedules, especially prior to their joining the Big East, simply isn't borne out by the numbers. They play anybody, anywhere, anytime.

Teams on Miami's Schedule during National Championship Years:
1983: (11-1)
Houston
Purdue
Duke
Louisville
Miss. St.
Cincinatti

1987: (12-0)
Maryland
Cincinatti
East Carolina
Miami (OH)
Va. Tech
Toledo

1989: (11-1)
Wisconsin
Cal
Missouri
Cincinatti
San Jose St.
East Carolina
San Diego St.

1991: (12-0)
Arkansas
Houston
Oklahoma St.
Cal St.-Longbeach
Arizona
W. Virginia

200112-0)
Penn St.
Rutgers
W. Virginia
Temple

 

[hatvol96]

Teams on Miami's Schedule during National Championship Years:
1983: (11-1)
Houston
Purdue
Duke
Louisville
Miss. St.
Cincinatti

1987: (12-0)
Maryland
Cincinatti
East Carolina
Miami (OH)
Va. Tech
Toledo

1989: (11-1)
Wisconsin
Cal
Missouri
Cincinatti
San Jose St.
East Carolina
San Diego St.

1991: (12-0)
Arkansas
Houston
Oklahoma St.
Cal St.-Longbeach
Arizona
W. Virginia

200112-0)
Penn St.
Rutgers
W. Virginia
Temple

Teams on UT's 1998 Schedule:
Houston
South Carolina
UAB
Vanderbilt

 

[therealUT]

4 out of 13 is a lot less than 6 or 7 out of 12 Hat.

 

[hatvol96]

4 out of 13 is a lot less than 6 or 7 out of 12 Hat.

It's interesting, a huge protion of the teams you ridicule Miami for playing are teams UT has played since TCHFCAUTK took over. I also didn't realize Arkansas and Mississippi State were so terrible. I believe UT played them in '98 as well. Didn't realize scheduling a game at Penn State was looking for a breather. Didn't realize West Virginia was considered a walkover.

 

[therealUT]

It's interesting, a huge protion of the teams you ridicule Miami for playing are teams UT has played since TCHFCAUTK took over. I also didn't realize Arkansas and Mississippi State were so terrible. I believe UT played them in '98 as well. Didn't realize scheduling a game at Penn State was looking for a breather. Didn't realize West Virginia was considered a walkover.

Teams on Miami's Schedule during National Championship Years:
1983: (11-1)
Houston (4-7)
Purdue (3-7-1)
Duke (3-8)
Louisville (3-8)
Miss. St. (3-8)
Cincinatti (4-6-1)

Six teams with losing records. Lost 5 out of 6 against teams with winning records.

1987: (12-0)
Maryland (4-7)
Cincinatti (4-7)
East Carolina (5-6)
Miami (OH) (5-6)
Va. Tech (2-9)
Toledo (3-7)

Again, six teams with losing records.

1989: (11-1)
Wisconsin (2-9)
Cal (4-7)
Missouri (2-9)
Cincinatti (1-9) <--a Miami favorite
San Jose St. (6-5)
East Carolina (5-5)
San Diego St. (6-5-1)

Only four teams with losing records, and then 3 bottom conference barely .500 teams. So, Miami won 4 out of 5 against good teams.

1991: (12-0)
Arkansas (6-6)
Houston (4-7)
Oklahoma St. (0-10)
Cal St.-Longbeach
Arizona (4-7)
W. Virginia (6-5)

200112-0)
Penn St. (5-6)
Rutgers (2-9)
W. Virginia (3-8)
Temple (4-7)

 

[hatvol96]

Teams on Miami&#39;s Schedule during National Championship Years:
1983: (11-1)
Houston (4-7)
Purdue (3-7-1)
Duke (3-8)
Louisville (3-8)
Miss. St. (3-8)
Cincinatti (4-6-1)

Six teams with losing records. Lost 5 out of 6 against teams with winning records.

1987: (12-0)
Maryland (4-7)
Cincinatti (4-7)
East Carolina (5-6)
Miami (OH) (5-6)
Va. Tech (2-9)
Toledo (3-7)

Again, six teams with losing records.

1989: (11-1)
Wisconsin (2-9)
Cal (4-7)
Missouri (2-9)
Cincinatti (1-9) <--a Miami favorite
San Jose St. (6-5)
East Carolina (5-5)
San Diego St. (6-5-1)

Only four teams with losing records, and then 3 bottom conference barely .500 teams. So, Miami won 4 out of 5 against good teams.

1991: (12-0)
Arkansas (6-6)
Houston (4-7)
Oklahoma St. (0-10)
Cal St.-Longbeach
Arizona (4-7)
W. Virginia (6-5)

200112-0)
Penn St. (5-6)
Rutgers (2-9)
W. Virginia (3-8)
Temple (4-7)

Post the entire schedules and see how they look. If you just look at the bottom teams, UT&#39;s schedule is terrible every year due to the presence of Vandy, Kentucky, and at least one nonconference lightweight.

 

[therealUT]

Post the entire schedules and see how they look. If you just look at the bottom teams, UT&#39;s schedule is terrible every year due to the presence of Vandy, Kentucky, and at least one nonconference lightweight.

If you play six teams with a losing record in one year, it does not matter to me who else you play. Miami might as well have just had a 5 game schedule in &#39;83 and &#39;87.