The upside of the men's football team losing again

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VollyParton said:
Hart is one more step closer to the exit.
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You can just say "football team." The 'men's' is completely redundant. Other than it might emphasize that virtually all of women's scholarship sports are funded by the 'men's football team.'
 
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armchair said:
The football team is getting better. Can you say that about the women's basketball team? What exactly has it done for the last 7 years?
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And exactly how many National Championships has the football team brought to the University? Don't worry, I'll wait!
 
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Roustabout said:
You can just say "football team." The 'men's' is completely redundant. Other than it might emphasize that virtually all of women's scholarship sports are funded by the 'men's football team.'
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OF COURSE you don't have to say "men's football team"! The football team has such a strong tradition, Tennessee Athletics pretty much IS the football team!

And it used to be the women's teams were so well esteemed, they had their own department and name. Now they are pushed back behind the men. You could say "Volunteers" and "Lady Vols" and people would know immediately who you were talking about. Now you say "Volunteers", and the assumption is never the women. That's not equality, that's a loss of value. The women are pushed back to the back of the line, rather than standing alongside the men in their own line. But the former Lady Vols who have been speaking out have expressed it much better than I. You should read their words.

I respectfully think you are wrong about the scholarships. Football pays for the bulk of athletics, but i believe it is donors that cover many of the women athletes. I don't have the numbers. we can both look into that, but I believe you are wrong.

The basketball team will temporarily be called "Lady Vols". Hart will put a stop to that as soon as he can get away with it, but donors are giving him a hard time right now.

Nike is getting calls because Hart said they were involved with the decision to do away with the name and logo. Nike claims it wasn't their decision, because adidas owns the logo (they don't - of course UT owns it). Does it sound like Nike will be making gear with the Lady Vols logo? Not to me! Already the cheerleaders at the women's games are wearing the T logo, and not the Lady Vols logo. Hart is just waiting out the complainers. It'll be gone. To me, this is very upsetting, disappointing, and I don't even see a reason for it, other than simple low regard for the women athletes and their fans.

The Lady Vols never hurt football. They used to co-exist just fine.
 
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Roustabout said:
You can just say "football team." The 'men's' is completely redundant. Other than it might emphasize that virtually all of women's scholarship sports are funded by the 'men's football team.'
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Previously the "men's football team" funded virtually all of the MEN'S "scholarship sports" too - as well as donated to academics. Women's basketball and men's basketball have been self supporting. With the current conditions in the AD (due to inept past and current "leadership"), I doubt the "men's football team" is contributing as previously. They have to support the buy out for previous coaches, previous staff, previous AD, law suits, more law suits, etc. A very expensive past and future for the department.
If you want to make a point, cover all angles. Otherwise thought process weaknesses show, the statements are open to being disregarded, and the assumption made that it's just another whiner, troll, basher, etc. trying to get noticed.
 
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Getting boat-raced at UTC in the first half is a clear indication that Dave Hart doesn't have a good handle on the women's basketball team.
 
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WVU05UT09 said:
Comments like the one from the OP are the reason many of the football/mens basketball fans do not like the womens basketball program.

Not to mention your original statement is a false premise. Dave Hart is not going to live or die on the football program. Secondly, a losing football program does not help the university or other female sports at UT. Do you want an indoor facility for Track & Field to help the womens track & field programs back to their storied past? If so, then an unsuccessful football program will not help that.
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Exactly.
 
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I love and support all the sports at UT. I'm glad that football is finally on the right track. CBJ was a great hire. I unfortunately can't say the Lady Vols basketball team is on the right track with the coaching situation. Time will tell.
 
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