The Vandy trend is real. How real?

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Rivals recruiting rankings go back to 2002. At the bottom is the average star rating for each recruiting class for both schools.
Rivals describes their ratings as follows.

"6.1 Franchise Player; considered one of the elite prospects in the country, generally among the nation's top 25 players overall; deemed to have excellent pro potential; high-major prospect

6.0-5.8 All-American Candidate; high-major prospect; considered one of the nation's top 300 prospects; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team

5.7-5.5 All-Region Selection; considered among the region's top prospects and among the top 750 or so prospects in the country; high-to-mid-major prospect; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team

5.4-5.0 Division I prospect; considered a mid-major prospect; deemed to have limited pro potential but definite Division I prospect; may be more of a role player

4.9 Sleeper; no Rivals.com expert knew much, if anything, about this player; a prospect that only a college coach really knew about"

6.1+ is a 5*
5.8 to 6 is a 4*
5.5 to 5.7 is a 3*
5.0 to 5.4 is a 2*


So, here is the sauce
2002 ut 3.96 vu 2.14
2003 ut 3.27 vu 2.23
2004 ut 3.25 vu 2.10
2005 ut 3.63 vu 2.08
2006 ut 3.09 vu 2.24
2007 ut 3.63 vu 2.50
2008 ut 3.06 vu 2.19
2009 ut 3.62 vu 2.72
2010 ut 3.44 vu 2.79
2011 ut 3.41 vu 2.71
2012 ut 3.38 vu 3.14
2013 ut 3.19 vu 3.15
2014 to date ut 3.42 vu 3.38

The gap has closed but it's still not close enough for Vandy to be finishing ahead of us.
 
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With all due respect, Vandy has not closed the gap as much as we have. Our complete buffoon of an ex-athletic director has put us in this situation. Let us hope that Jones can get us going in the right direction.
 
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bigoleorange said:
Rivals recruiting rankings go back to 2002. At the bottom is the average star rating for each recruiting class for both schools.
Rivals describes their ratings as follows.

"6.1 Franchise Player; considered one of the elite prospects in the country, generally among the nation's top 25 players overall; deemed to have excellent pro potential; high-major prospect

6.0-5.8 All-American Candidate; high-major prospect; considered one of the nation's top 300 prospects; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team

5.7-5.5 All-Region Selection; considered among the region's top prospects and among the top 750 or so prospects in the country; high-to-mid-major prospect; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team

5.4-5.0 Division I prospect; considered a mid-major prospect; deemed to have limited pro potential but definite Division I prospect; may be more of a role player

4.9 Sleeper; no Rivals.com expert knew much, if anything, about this player; a prospect that only a college coach really knew about"

6.1+ is a 5*
5.8 to 6 is a 4*
5.5 to 5.7 is a 3*
5.0 to 5.4 is a 2*


So, here is the sauce
2002 ut 3.96 vu 2.14
2003 ut 3.27 vu 2.23
2004 ut 3.25 vu 2.10
2005 ut 3.63 vu 2.08
2006 ut 3.09 vu 2.24
2007 ut 3.63 vu 2.50
2008 ut 3.06 vu 2.19
2009 ut 3.62 vu 2.72
2010 ut 3.44 vu 2.79
2011 ut 3.41 vu 2.71
2012 ut 3.38 vu 3.14
2013 ut 3.19 vu 3.15
2014 to date ut 3.42 vu 3.38

The gap has closed but it's still not close enough for Vandy to be finishing ahead of us.
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That will be over in a few seasons!
 
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WoodstockVol said:
That will be over in a few seasons!
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Meaning if Franklin leaves they go back to getting mostly high 2* players? Our recruiting average is what it is. As good as it feels Butch is doing Fulmer had many classes that were better. My guess is Butch will average 3.4 to 3.7 classes each year.
 
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These threads bore me--when Vandy got Foreman snatched away that's indicitive of the tide turning. Look at the recruiting rankings now. Vandy will go back to being "what they are" soon enough and no amount of James Franklin dancing around and his stupid catch phrases ("Anchor Down!") will matter. End of Story. The whole "oh look Vanderbilt is cute they are trying to win" thing will end. It will end. I don't need to list out all reasons but there are many.
 
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volswillrise12 said:
These threads bore me--when Vandy got Foreman snatched away that's indicitive of the tide turning. Look at the recruiting rankings now. Vandy will go back to being "what they are" soon enough and no amount of James Franklin dancing around and his stupid catch phrases ("Anchor Down!") will matter. End of Story. The whole "oh look Vanderbilt is cute they are trying to win" thing will end. It will end. I don't need to list out all reasons but there are many.
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How does taking Foreman prove anything? He's a midrange 3* player. He wanted to be a Vol, Dooley didn't offer, Butch did.
 
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It just proves that the battle for middle of the road in-state prospects is going to swing to us because we have a coach that actually has a desire to recruit the area. You are right Dooley put himself and UT at a disadvantage by not recruiting guys like Foreman---whom I will say will be a key contributor for this team especially with our secondary issues. You can't have all elite level prospects on a team---how many of those does Vandy have or in a position to land?
 
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bigoleorange said:
Rivals recruiting rankings go back to 2002. At the bottom is the average star rating for each recruiting class for both schools.
Rivals describes their ratings as follows.

"6.1 Franchise Player; considered one of the elite prospects in the country, generally among the nation's top 25 players overall; deemed to have excellent pro potential; high-major prospect

6.0-5.8 All-American Candidate; high-major prospect; considered one of the nation's top 300 prospects; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team

5.7-5.5 All-Region Selection; considered among the region's top prospects and among the top 750 or so prospects in the country; high-to-mid-major prospect; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team

5.4-5.0 Division I prospect; considered a mid-major prospect; deemed to have limited pro potential but definite Division I prospect; may be more of a role player

4.9 Sleeper; no Rivals.com expert knew much, if anything, about this player; a prospect that only a college coach really knew about"

6.1+ is a 5*
5.8 to 6 is a 4*
5.5 to 5.7 is a 3*
5.0 to 5.4 is a 2*


So, here is the sauce
2002 ut 3.96 vu 2.14
2003 ut 3.27 vu 2.23
2004 ut 3.25 vu 2.10
2005 ut 3.63 vu 2.08
2006 ut 3.09 vu 2.24
2007 ut 3.63 vu 2.50
2008 ut 3.06 vu 2.19
2009 ut 3.62 vu 2.72
2010 ut 3.44 vu 2.79
2011 ut 3.41 vu 2.71
2012 ut 3.38 vu 3.14
2013 ut 3.19 vu 3.15
2014 to date ut 3.42 vu 3.38

The gap has closed but it's still not close enough for Vandy to be finishing ahead of us.
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Problem is look at all the people we have lost. To many to count. That is we're the gap has narrowed the most and we have fallen behind.
 
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There is no question that Vandy has gotten better and more attractive under Franklin. UT has had some troubles lately for obvious reasons. But we all know that UT is a sleeping giant, it's only a matter of time until they start signing top 5 classes again.
 
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