The VolNation Top 25 Week 4 (October 22)

#26
#26
Here's mine...with all the one loss teams winning last week, a lot in squeakers, it's hard for me to jump a bunch of people....especially considering the head to heads that have already taken place. for whatever it's worth.
1 OSU
2 Mich
3 USC
4 Auburn
5 WVU
6 Florida
7 Tennessee
8 Louisville
9 Clemson
10 Notre Dame
11 Texas
12 Cal
13 ARK
14 LSU
15 Rutgers
16 Oklahoma
17 Wisconsin
18 Boston College
19 Texas A & M
20 Boise St
21 Missouri
22 Ga Tech
23 Oregon
24 South Carolina
25 Penn State
 
#27
#27
Mine:

1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. USC
4. Louisville
5. West Virginia
6. Auburn
7. Florida
8. Tennessee
9. Cal
10. Boston College
11. Notre Dame
12. Texas
13. Clemson
14. Arkansas
15. Boise State
16. Rutgers
17. Wisconsin
18. Texas A&M
19. LSU
20. Tulsa
21. Oregon
22. Oklahoma
23. Missouri
24. Georgia Tech
25. Nebraska
 
#29
#29
VolinArizona said:
Mine:

1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. USC
4. Louisville
5. West Virginia
6. Auburn
7. Florida
8. Tennessee
9. Cal
10. Boston College
11. Notre Dame
12. Texas
13. Clemson
14. Arkansas
15. Boise State
16. Rutgers
17. Wisconsin
18. Texas A&M
19. LSU
20. Tulsa
21. Oregon
22. Oklahoma
23. Missouri
24. Georgia Tech
25. Nebraska
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not bad...but BC a top ten team? i know they beat clemson...but top 10??? can't see it they got beat by NCSU.... other than that...not too shabby.
 
#30
#30
jakez4ut said:
not bad...but BC a top ten team? i know they beat clemson...but top 10??? can't see it they got beat by NCSU.... other than that...not too shabby.
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BC, IMO, has a better resume than Clemson does. Everyone likes to compare teams by who they LOST TO, but I hate that. It's like saying, "We're going to rank teams based on who failed the best" not "Who succeeded the most?" Knowwhatimsayin?
 
#31
#31
I'm not sure that the votes for the Stormin' Mormons is that far out there. They've been playing some pretty good football.
 
#32
#32
I like the votes for BYU, but with every Arizona loss, BYU gets hurt in my personal rankings.
 
#33
#33
1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. West Virginia
4. USC
5. Louisville
6. Auburn
7. Florida
8. Tennessee
9. Texas
10. California
11. Clemson
12. LSU
13. Notre Dame
14. Arkansas
15. Rutgers
16. Oklahoma
17. Boston College
18. Wisconsin
19. Texas A&M
20. Missouri
21. Georgia Tech
22. Nebraska
23. Oregon
24. Boise State
25. Penn State

Mine. Rip it, haters!
 
#36
#36
VolinArizona said:
BC, IMO, has a better resume than Clemson does. Everyone likes to compare teams by who they LOST TO, but I hate that. It's like saying, "We're going to rank teams based on who failed the best" not "Who succeeded the most?" Knowwhatimsayin?
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yeah, but losing to NCSU...that's a bad loss imo. who did they beat? clemson...FSU (who is not very good mind you)....and a couple of other cupcake ACC teams?

that loss against NCSU to me penalizes them more than any reward they get by beating Clemson in a game that Clemson gave a way by missing a PAT.....we always talk about the voters that must not be paying attention to the games....BC has not been impressive imo from what i've seen. they deserve to be ranked...but top ten they are not.
 
#37
#37
tidwell said:
1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. West Virginia
4. USC
5. Louisville
6. Auburn
7. Florida
8. Tennessee
9. Texas
10. California
11. Clemson
12. LSU
13. Notre Dame
14. Arkansas
15. Rutgers
16. Oklahoma
17. Boston College
18. Wisconsin
19. Texas A&M
20. Missouri
21. Georgia Tech
22. Nebraska
23. Oregon
24. Boise State
25. Penn State

Mine. Rip it, haters!
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OK...............WVU over USC???? nope. ok, i'm done.
 
#38
#38
I've been thoroughly unimpressed with USC since week one. WVU is at least blowing out the people they should to merit a top five ranking.
 
#39
#39
tidwell said:
I've been thoroughly unimpressed with USC since week one. WVU is at least blowing out the people they should to merit a top five ranking.
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top 5 yes...top 3...no. WVU hasn't played anyone....yet. they have been beating up on nobodies all year.

now that will change in the coming weeks....if they beat Pitt, L'ville and Rutgers....i've got no problem with WVU in the top 3.
 
#40
#40
I think they'll lose one of those games, and if they do I'll probably drop them out of the top ten completely. Louisville, too. I'm giving them along with USC the benefit of the doubt since they're all undefeated up to this point.

Same for Boise State, once they lose, they're gone for good.
 
#41
#41
tidwell said:
I think they'll lose one of those games, and if they do I'll probably drop them out of the top ten completely. Louisville, too. I'm giving them along with USC the benefit of the doubt since they're all undefeated up to this point.

Same for Boise State, once they lose, they're gone for good.
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i agree...and it goes back to prove the old point...if you are going to lose, lose early to a really good team.
 
#42
#42
tidwell said:
1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. West Virginia
4. USC
5. Louisville
6. Auburn
7. Florida
8. Tennessee
9. Texas
10. California
11. Clemson
12. LSU
13. Notre Dame
14. Arkansas
15. Rutgers
16. Oklahoma
17. Boston College
18. Wisconsin
19. Texas A&M
20. Missouri
21. Georgia Tech
22. Nebraska
23. Oregon
24. Boise State
25. Penn State

Mine. Rip it, haters!
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Not a rip, everyone is entitled to their own opinion....but Oklahoma at #16 without their stud QB or RB? I think, right now, with the team they are putting on the field they are not even in the Top 25.
 
#44
#44
VolinArizona said:
Implying I don't watch?
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no not at all...but after watching half a season, and seeing BC play and Clemson play...and watching their game head to head....it's not like BC just killed Clemson. they won...of course.

but i can't let myself belive BC is a top ten team for losing to a bad NCSU team and Clemson choking away the game to BC...BC is lucky to only have one loss.

i guess my point is, we always give voters a hard time cause we wonder what the heck are they thinking...and usually we conclude that they are simply looking at box scores, afte never having seen the game....and in looking at you putting BC in the top ten on the strength of the Clemson victory...it would seem that you used the same rationale.

If we had beaten UF by one point, with -11 yards rushing and then lost to Air force....how much love do you think we'd be getting right now? fact is that one point loss to florida looks much better than the 1 pt win over airforce....
 
#45
#45
The one aspect I really like about BC over Clemson is the schedule strength. In every rating system I've seen, BC's schedule is WORLDS better than Clemson's. Add on that BC beat Clemson (albeit by a missed PAT), then you have a pretty solid argument for having BC ahead.

A lot of us think we can tell which teams have more talent or are better than others by watching. In all honestly, barely any of us know enough to be able to do that.
 
#46
#46
VolinArizona said:
The one aspect I really like about BC over Clemson is the schedule strength. In every rating system I've seen, BC's schedule is WORLDS better than Clemson's. Add on that BC beat Clemson (albeit by a missed PAT), then you have a pretty solid argument for having BC ahead.

A lot of us think we can tell which teams have more talent or are better than others by watching. In all honestly, barely any of us know enough to be able to do that.
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i know NCSU got pasted by Southern Miss and lost at Home to Akron. Then got embarrased by Wake Forest. And they beat BC. to me that doesn't say much about BC....esp considering how they won against Clemson....how the games play out to the naked eye are things that most rating systems, computers etc...can't account for.

and this is the problem with any poll for that matter. it's all based on opinion...even the computer polls and BCS are a summation of a bunch of different opinon polls. it's all horse crap in my book anyway.

which is why the national champ should be determined by playing off the conf. champions and 4 at large teams. Basically, if you don't win your conf., you can't play for a NT. the four at large teams, are for lack of a better word, wild cards...determine them how you like...the 4 highest ranked in the BCS that didn't win their conf....which this year could include USC, Auburn, Tennessee and Michigan. Put those 4 teams in with the OSU's, Clemson's, Cal's, WVU's of the world, and it would be great.

either way, the thing is determined on the feild...you win against those types of teams, you deserve the NT....not because some poll says so.

And if not that...leave it like it is and we'll all have a grand old time bitching about it every year...either way, we win, right?
 
#47
#47
therickbol said:
Not a rip, everyone is entitled to their own opinion....but Oklahoma at #16 without their stud QB or RB? I think, right now, with the team they are putting on the field they are not even in the Top 25.
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Yeah, I thought I had them up a little high, but I went with it. I kept them ahead of Oregon the whole time after their fiasco.
 
#49
#49
therealUT said:
:lolabove:And you questioned my computer poll??? UT, Florida, and Auburn ahead of USC? That is laughable! Well, at least no one can accuse you of being a homer...:zeitung_lesen:
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so... what do you have to say for yourself now? a simple "You were right. I was wrong" will suffice.
 
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