The War on Women begins ....

Pity? Whatever for? I like old country, some new country, southern rock, 60s, 70s,80s rock & roll classics, acid rock, heavy metal, old time 5 piece string band, classical symphonic orchestral music, choral, a few ballet (daughter danced several years) and so also a few opera, old time mountain music, broadway musicals, and movie scores.

Ahm soooo pitiful...goin to the garden an eat some worms.

But Celine Dion? Man card revoked.:)
 
Am I the only one who doesn't think all lives aren't sacred or valuable. With over population, the value of a life drops. When there is a mass surplus of people on the planet, their worthiness drops. Zinc, a metal used everyday, is priced lowly because there is a massive abundance of it. The all lives are sacred and equal thing is fuzzy and warm, but it isn't true biologically. The life of Albert Einstein is worth more than almost every life is on this board.

The reason why crime went down in the early 90's was due to Roe v. Wade. Abortion took out many of the unwanted kids from the incompetent mother. It's an unfortunate reality, but it is reality. If abortion is illegalized, crime would go back up to 70's levels within 20 years.

You are not the only one. The implication goes well beyond abortion though.
 
I am talking about an abortion that is done to save mom's life. I am not talking about killing her to save the child. There is a difference.

But if the abortion isn't done, she dies. Either way, a person, the mother or the child, dies.
 
But if the abortion isn't done, she dies. Either way, a person, the mother or the child, dies.
It is not the same to allow someone to die without doing something to save them versus doing the killing act.
 
It's funny I haven't seen weapons military tanks or soldiers on ground troops rounding up women
 
The war on women is a massive myth. White Females are the most privileged group in the country right now.
 
Well, the solution is deceptively simple. The point of reference is you. Same as with objective truth/knowledge debates.

Could they be acting in long-term beneficial way towards us? Sure. Let's say that they do for the sake of the argument, action X. Now, let's add two conditionals.

First conditional, they have no way to communicate effectively to us. This would be most similar to a dog going to the vet. If it involves short-term pain, is it irrational to not let them continue to let them carryout action X? I don't think so. You have no reason to believe it is in your long-term benefit and there is no way for them to effectively communicate such. Much in the same way I don't blame my dog for acting the way she does at the vet. Now, having said that, my dog is much better at the vet than she once was. She has learned. That option would be open to humans as well.

Second conditional, they can communicate effectively to us. We understand what they are trying to accomplish with action X. For the sake of the argument, we approve of their intentions and expected long-term results. Do we trust them? Trust tends to be built on past actions. Does this dynamic change if we are able to resist effectively? I think it does.

Even within this construct, do we value long-term results and goals? If not, whether they communicate effectively becomes irrelevant. We would value our short-term goals and results over anything they were either trying to accomplish or sell us via action X.

Regardless of how you, another person, or my dog approaches the dilemma above, the point of view always stays the same (irrespective of time obviously). As someone who adheres to Marcus Aurelius's philosophy, never let the future disturb you, for if you have to meet it, you will meet it with the same weapons of reason which today arm you against the present.

In other words, we have the same problems in the present, just in different forms. In the other thread, the discussion is why should we trust the CIA/NSA/FBI etc. or John McAfee. Should I trust my wife, best friend, coworkers, neighbors, etc? Should I trust the food I ate, the medicine I took, or the device I am using to type this?

Well ya damn sure caint trust wimmin. I KNOW!
 
This is the same guy that was on national TV saying F#ck, F#ck, F#ck, F#ck when he couldn't figure out how to operate his computer during an online hearing. He's probably not the nicest guy in the world and has some anger issues to deal with, but vote for him because he's for black people!


Anger issues? Misogynistic?

Sounds like Trump.
 

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