The Worley Choreograph...

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photovol said:
When fans finally realize that the QB is only one of our many problems, will they finally be able to see the big picture. We still don't have the skill position players like Alabama, LSU, Georgia, South Carolina and the like. We still don't have LB's like the better teams and we don't have any depth...the list goes on
Patience
Patience
Patience
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oh...i am absolutely patient and i completely agree with you. however, we could make life a little more difficult on opposing D's if we didn't tip them off before every play.
 
#27
#27
A tell could be used against an opponent if they had their **** together enough to utilize something like that. Unfortunately we have bigger concerns so I doubt this is even discussed in the film room or practice.
 
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DD4ME said:
A tell could be used against an opponent if they had their **** together enough to utilize something like that. Unfortunately we have bigger concerns so I doubt this is even discussed in the film room or practice.
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so, an opposing D coordinator wouldn't say, "watch their QB, he telegraphs if it is going to be a run or throw on every play..."? I my friend think he would and I think our O coordinator needs to make sure we do every little thing to help our offensive execution.
 
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Manvol said:
Part of the problem I think this isn't the offense he ran in high school. 90% of the time he had no RB in the back field and it was 5 WR sets.
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where one of those wide receivers was Cordarrelle Patterson
 
#30
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I think you mean 'telegraph'. They ain't dancing out there. :)

As a former fighter, I can vouch for how important telegraphs are. I can also vouch for how hard it is to get rid of them.
 
#31
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Orange_Crush said:
I think you mean 'telegraph'. They ain't dancing out there. :)

As a former fighter, I can vouch for how important telegraphs are. I can also vouch for how hard it is to get rid of them.
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indeed...sorry didn't have coffee this morning. i did however use the term telegraph after my coffee...thanks though! ha! but yes...my point still stands.
 
#32
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aaronvol said:
indeed...sorry didn't have coffee this morning. i did however use the term telegraph after my coffee...thanks though! ha! but yes...my point still stands.
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Just bustin' your chops. The intent came through.

I got a kick out of the vision of Worley as a ballerina...
 
#33
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90 Vol said:
Make fun of the OP all you want to but he's spot on.
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Lol. What does it matter? It's not like the D can adjust in half a second & automatically stop the play. Even if they knew the play they still gotta stop it. OP is just bored or trolling......I hope.
 
#34
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govols/cc said:
Lol. What does it matter? It's not like the D can adjust in half a second & automatically stop the play. Even if they knew the play they still gotta stop it. OP is just bored or trolling......I hope.
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seriously? if a D has half a second to know if it is run or pass that is absolutely detrimental to the offense. it is much more difficult to execute when the D knows if you're running or passing...not to mention how ineffective playaction becomes. i am not bored or trolling. was at the game and noticed how obvious worley telegraphs the play. in a game of inches we can't afford these small details.
 
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govols/cc said:
Lol. What does it matter? It's not like the D can adjust in half a second & automatically stop the play. Even if they knew the play they still gotta stop it. OP is just bored or trolling......I hope.
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and boredom? really? lets look at the amount of posts on your side versus mine...
 
#36
#36
Being at the game saturday and watching in person as opposed to on TV...Worley has a live arm and does have the bad habit of throwing off Back foot a little too much...BUT...Marquez North is not doing him any favors...at least 2 if not 3 or 4 times North was late on getting his head turned around and finding the ball or running wrong route...the pick in End zone on the throw to right was receiver cutting his route off and Worley throwing to where he should have gone...the other was Worley's bc you can't throw into Triple coverage with a 5'10" or shorter receiver or ever really lol...I don't care if your RG3, if your line lets everyone bye before QB finishes his drop, nothing good ever happens...
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
Being at the game saturday and watching in person as opposed to on TV...Worley has a live arm and does have the bad habit of throwing off Back foot a little too much...BUT...Marquez North is not doing him any favors...at least 2 if not 3 or 4 times North was late on getting his head turned around and finding the ball or running wrong route...the pick in End zone on the throw to right was receiver cutting his route off and Worley throwing to where he should have gone...the other was Worley's bc you can't throw into Triple coverage with a 5'10" or shorter receiver or ever really lol...I don't care if your RG3, if your line lets everyone bye before QB finishes his drop, nothing good ever happens...
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all of this is true...but pre-snap habits are setting us up for failure.
 
#38
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aaronvol said:
After watching these 5 games I have realized one of the reasons why defenses are able to have such success against our offense. Worley, will start leaning forward on all run plays about a half second before snap and lean back on all pass plays...100% of the time. There is no surprise for the defense as to what is coming. He even leans back on playaction passes...
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What does Worley do before he decides to throw an Interception, get in the crouch position like hes gonna take a crap?
 
#39
#39
OP is correct. Worley is leaning and the RB's may be doing so as well.

This is something that should have been found in self-scouting.
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
Being at the game saturday and watching in person as opposed to on TV...Worley has a live arm and does have the bad habit of throwing off Back foot a little too much...BUT...Marquez North is not doing him any favors...at least 2 if not 3 or 4 times North was late on getting his head turned around and finding the ball or running wrong route...the pick in End zone on the throw to right was receiver cutting his route off and Worley throwing to where he should have gone...the other was Worley's bc you can't throw into Triple coverage with a 5'10" or shorter receiver or ever really lol...I don't care if your RG3, if your line lets everyone bye before QB finishes his drop, nothing good ever happens...
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Oh come now. Spreading the blame requires far too much reasoning... it is much easier to just say "Worley sucks".


In seriousness, thanks for this post. I thought I was alone in a) listening to Jones about the situation and b) recognizing that WR inconsistency makes a QB look like a doofus and hurts his confidence when throwing.
 
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govols/cc said:
Sorry you were serious. These phantom pre snap "tendencies" have nothing to do with our inept offense.
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It's not "phantom" if it's happening, and it is happening. Will that solve Worley's issues at qb? No, but it's certainly not helping anything. If you give a LB or DB a 1 sec. heads up on run vs. pass, they will take advantage of the information. I don't really see how anyone can deny that with a reasonable arguement.
 
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90 Vol said:
It's not "phantom" if it's happening, and it is happening. Will that solve Worley's issues at qb? No, but it's certainly not helping anything. If you give a LB or DB a 1 sec. heads up on run vs. pass, they will take advantage of the information. I don't really see how anyone can deny that with a reasonable arguement.
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Lol omg. The best argument would probably be no other team has given this a thought.
 
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govols/cc said:
Lol omg. The best argument would probably be no other team has given this a thought.
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From what I've watched, WKU or Oregon's qb doesn't do this. You can get away with a lot of stuff in HS that will bite you at the D1 college level. There's a lot more to film study than just formations and plays. There is a good bit of time spent studying tendencies. If anyone thinks that this kind of stuff doesn't make a difference at this level, then I don't know what to tell you.
 
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90 Vol said:
From what I've watched, WKU or Oregon's qb doesn't do this. You can get away with a lot of stuff in HS that will bite you at the D1 college level. There's a lot more to film study than just formations and plays. There is a good bit of time spent studying tendencies. If anyone thinks that this kind of stuff doesn't make a difference at this level, then I don't know what to tell you.
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Not being able to read coverages, complete a 5 yard pass, or throw a catchable ball has nothing to do with anything anybody has said in this thread.
 
#49
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govols/cc said:
Not being able to read coverages, complete a 5 yard pass, or throw a catchable ball has nothing to do with anything anybody has said in this thread.
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I tend to agree with you. All the discussion may be true, but the fact is we don't have an SEC level QB and he is likely to never develop into a SEC QB.
 
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