This bowl season was terrible

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I have listened to all the talk about the conferences and who's best, who's worse. In my eyes its all BS when the games play out like they did this year. The real truth is that the top tier teams in all of the power leagues can go toe to toe. They all have the same type of athletes and pump players to the NFL. The amount of blowouts this year is no real indication of the level of play in the leagues, and for sure not a true sign of the teams competition levels. I see a lot of football games and I saw teams that played totally different in the bowl game, than I saw them play over several regular season games. One can only conclude that the SEC had the best bowl season, and the biggest wins. But the way teams were laying down all over the place, it doesn't carry much weight with me. These teams really need to bring there A games to the biggest stages.
 
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I've never seen so many onesided games during Bowl Season ever. I've only been able to sit completely through a few of the games.
 
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Tennessee gave Northwestern a prison beating. I think this bowl season was outstanding :)
 
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I was in Jacksonville last year for our game so I missed quite a few bowls. This year decided to stay home and watch as many as possible and got a big let down. But hey beats working any day.
 
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I have listened to all the talk about the conferences and who's best, who's worse. In my eyes its all BS when the games play out like they did this year. The real truth is that the top tier teams in all of the power leagues can go toe to toe. They all have the same type of athletes and pump players to the NFL. The amount of blowouts this year is no real indication of the level of play in the leagues, and for sure not a true sign of the teams competition levels. I see a lot of football games and I saw teams that played totally different in the bowl game, than I saw them play over several regular season games. One can only conclude that the SEC had the best bowl season, and the biggest wins. But the way teams were laying down all over the place, it doesn't carry much weight with me. These teams really need to bring there A games to the biggest stages.

Glad you could drop by, Coach Franklin.
 
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I have listened to all the talk about the conferences and who's best, who's worse. In my eyes its all BS when the games play out like they did this year. The real truth is that the top tier teams in all of the power leagues can go toe to toe. They all have the same type of athletes and pump players to the NFL. The amount of blowouts this year is no real indication of the level of play in the leagues, and for sure not a true sign of the teams competition levels. I see a lot of football games and I saw teams that played totally different in the bowl game, than I saw them play over several regular season games. One can only conclude that the SEC had the best bowl season, and the biggest wins. But the way teams were laying down all over the place, it doesn't carry much weight with me. These teams really need to bring there A games to the biggest stages.

Outside of the Pac 12 and the SEC, what teams do you honestly think can play big boy ball?

The bowls are an absolute indicator. A 4-5 loss SEC school will dominate any school from #3 down in the BIG, the ACC or the 12.

I think Ohio State, Clemson, Florida State, Michigan, Oklahoma, and Baylor are the only teams that could complete in our conference outside of the Pac 12. Out of those 5 only Clemson or Ohio State could finish in the top 3 of our conference.

At the end of the day, our schools minus a dysfunctional A&M and an underwhelming Florida have proven that top to bottom we are just flat out better than the rest of the college football world.
 
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Okay, there are two different ideas getting intertwined here.

1. Yes, the games are less competitive this year than in recent years. A lot of very lopsided results. That's unfortunate.

2. No, there's no reason to translate that into "you can't compare conferences against each other." We're seeing clear dominance by the SEC and PAC (though there's a caveat to the PAC results, more on that in a minute) ... and weakness in the ACC and, especially, B12. The B10 is smack in the middle, at 5-5.

Sure, the best of all five power conferences can hang with each other. But you can draw more of the "best" from some conferences than others. As the teams are playing right now, I'd put four SEC teams (Bama, Ole Miss, LSU, Vols) into that mix, along with two PAC teams (Stanford, Oregon), two B10 teams (Ohio State, Michigan), two B12 teams (Oklahoma, in spite of their big loss, and Baylor), and one ACC team (Clemson). Those 11 teams would make a pretty good round robin, where on any day, any one of them could beat any other. Just my opinion.


p.s. Oh, the caveat about the PAC's wins. They're getting a heavy dose of those from outside the Power 5:

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If you look just at their games against fellow Power 5, the PAC's record looks a bit less impressive.
 
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Must be a B1G fan.

Damn right I am. I'm also a huge UT fan. Above all, I am a sports and football fan. I have the ability to remove my allegiances and give an accurate, non bias opinion. Bottom line is that there were way too many blowouts to think that the differences are that big between the schools and leagues.
 
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Damn right I am. I'm also a huge UT fan. Above all, I am a sports and football fan. I have the ability to remove my allegiances and give an accurate, non bias opinion. Bottom line is that there were way too many blowouts to think that the differences are that big between the schools and leagues.

That last sentence kinda contradicts what you are trying to say...
 
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p.p.s. For any true Vol fan, and/or any SEC fan (outside of the Gators and Aggie miserables), this bowl season was excellent. :good!:
 
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Damn right I am. I'm also a huge UT fan. Above all, I am a sports and football fan. I have the ability to remove my allegiances and give an accurate, non bias opinion. Bottom line is that there were way too many blowouts to think that the differences are that big between the schools and leagues.

Maybe next year you'll get those free coconut shrimp appetizers.
 
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Damn right I am. I'm also a huge UT fan. Above all, I am a sports and football fan. I have the ability to remove my allegiances and give an accurate, non bias opinion. Bottom line is that there were way too many blowouts to think that the differences are that big between the schools and leagues.

The Big10 is pure horse ****... Sorry for the bad news...
 
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Sure, the best of all five power conferences can hang with each other. But you can draw more of the "best" from some conferences than others. As the teams are playing right now, I'd put four SEC teams (Bama, Ole Miss, LSU, Vols) into that mix, along with two PAC teams (Stanford, Oregon), two B10 teams (Ohio State, Michigan), two B12 teams (Oklahoma, in spite of their big loss, and Baylor), and one ACC team (Clemson). Those 11 teams would make a pretty good round robin, where on any day, any one of them could beat any other. Just my opinion.

The flaw I see here is that you are only going off of bowl games it seems. I know you guys here don't like the big 10, but you cant throw away the two teams that played for the big 10 title because they looked like poop in a bowl game. So one game speaks to the type of teams they are more than the whole season?? Don't forget that MSU beat OSU with a backup QB on the road. Yet you put OSU on your "big boy" list. Its not just for big 10 teams either. OK st is much better than they showed as well
 
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After bowl season there's no denying who the best conference was. I was pleased to see the SEC make a great showing during bowl season. I got really tired of hearing the B1G people making fun of the SEC for 300 plus days.
 
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The flaw I see here is that you are only going off of bowl games it seems. I know you guys here don't like the big 10, but you cant throw away the two teams that played for the big 10 title because they looked like poop in a bowl game. So one game speaks to the type of teams they are more than the whole season?? Don't forget that MSU beat OSU with a backup QB on the road. Yet you put OSU on your "big boy" list. Its not just for big 10 teams either. OK st is much better than they showed as well

No, not just the bowls. Keep track of inter-conference results from the regular season, as well:

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It says pretty much the same thing, though in the regular season it was the ACC that played tail-end Charlie.

Look, if Michigan State wanted to stay in with the "big boys," they shouldn't have depended on a couple of miracle cardiac kid wins to get to the top of their conference, then gotten themselves whupped like a dog in their bowl game. As for Iowa, we knew all along that they were beneficiaries of an ultra-weak schedule. Because we faced largely the same team last January and got a good measure of them. Their 12-0 regular season wasn't fooling anyone here.

I'm not down on the B10 this year...unlike several recent years, they're not the sick man of the Power 5. Wisconsin and Nebraska joined Ohio State and Michigan in representing their league well. But as they're playing right now, today, only OSU and Michigan are competitive at the very top tier nationwide.
 
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I would like to ask the Northwestern fans about the winner of a UT v UM match up since they played both. However, they seem to be in a very bad mood on their board. I do believe a UF v UN would have been close; dull and low scoring but close.
 
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The bowl games on New Year's day were blow outs with the exception of the ND/Buckeys game-16 points.
NO team with a 5-7 record should go to a bowl. NO more bowl games should be added, but drop at least 5. Some of the new ones did not need to be added.No more than 60 temas should play in bowls and the power 5 conference should not have any more than 8 teams go, not 10 (if they are 6-6 or 7-5). Have another conference add a team with a 7-5 record.
 
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The flaw I see here is that you are only going off of bowl games it seems. I know you guys here don't like the big 10, but you cant throw away the two teams that played for the big 10 title because they looked like poop in a bowl game. So one game speaks to the type of teams they are more than the whole season?? Don't forget that MSU beat OSU with a backup QB on the road. Yet you put OSU on your "big boy" list. Its not just for big 10 teams either. OK st is much better than they showed as well

Definitely!
Having the best teams from each conference play one another to see who's better???? Why that's just craziness!

Obviously we should let B1G fans just explain to us how much better they are than how they appear during games! With this true test of abilities, we can just call a halt to all these silly actual games and just let fans (B1G fans of course) tell us who would win. We can now base all results, including championships, off of this new and completely fair idealism :good!:
 
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p.p.s. For any true Vol fan, and/or any SEC fan (outside of the Gators and Aggie miserables), this bowl season was excellent. :good!:

My post was not about the bowl season for a team or a fandom. Its about the horrible games that were played. To watch kids on the field clearly giving up and playing with ZERO emotion is crap, and that's why these teams got hammered. Their is no way I can look at an Iowa team that won all year on hustle and physical play. Only to see them loafing and getting blown off the ball all game. That was a clear case that they did not come to play at all.

And take a look at my first post, in which I clearly stated that the SEC had the best bowl season. So people need to stop trying to turn this into a bash everyone else thread. Its not about that. Its about teams laying eggs in bowl games.
 
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So, the argument is: "They were beaten so bad, they obviously can't be worse than the ones who beat them so bad"?

If they were all competitive games, that wouldn't have shown them well matched?
 
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Definitely!
Having the best teams from each conference play one another to see who's better???? Why that's just craziness!

Obviously we should let B1G fans just explain to us how much better they are than how they appear during games! With this true test of abilities, we can just call a halt to all these silly actual games and just let fans (B1G fans of course) tell us who would win. We can now base all results, including championships, off of this new and completely fair idealism :good!:

... Take a look at this thread, and notice that someone else started with the big 10 stuff. Not me. Why are you guys so threatened by the big 10 that you have to mention them even when others don't??
 
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I have listened to all the talk about the conferences and who's best, who's worse. In my eyes its all BS when the games play out like they did this year. The real truth is that the top tier teams in all of the power leagues can go toe to toe. They all have the same type of athletes and pump players to the NFL. The amount of blowouts this year is no real indication of the level of play in the leagues, and for sure not a true sign of the teams competition levels. I see a lot of football games and I saw teams that played totally different in the bowl game, than I saw them play over several regular season games. One can only conclude that the SEC had the best bowl season, and the biggest wins. But the way teams were laying down all over the place, it doesn't carry much weight with me. These teams really need to bring there A games to the biggest stages.

Good teams make average teams look pathetic. That's the way it is. Go Vols
 

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