This describes what has happened to college football perfectly.

It's not GIVING. They are earning it. They have put in the work training and have God given gifts they've maximized.

That you would think it's bad to develop a talent and get paid for it, no matter what age, is what is sad.
What I think is really sad is the lives that will be ruined because of money they can't handle.
 
Please. Who doesn't want to be handed cash for nothing? Oh, wait: "Here's a pile of cash because you play college football--but you've got
to go to a local hospital with other players and chat with patients for an hour. I hope it's not too strenuous--we don't want to trouble you too much because, you know, you play college football."

This, as far as I can tell, is a bunch of nonsense derived from the social-justice movement--this notion that, first, black players play football; second, football makes a lot of money; ergo, black players are being exploited. That's essentially how all this pay players nonsense got started--by black activists. There are supposedly legal issues as well--but they make no sense to me as the game and the system have been the same for 60 years. Nothing has changed. Games have been televised for 60 years. Sure, the money is bigger--true of everything.

I'm pretty sure giving money to regular college students who've taken out major loans to get a college education would be a "life-changing
opportunity." And THAT is what isi particularly annoying about all this: You NEVER hear all the cats pushing to pay players mention the full, 4-year scholarships they're getting that are worth a LOT of money--$250 K, I'd estimate, over four years. That's a big deal--but you don't hear the activists talk about it because it's not cash in the pocket.

It's like UCONN women's basketball coach Auriemma said recently: We've created an environment in which "the players feel that they owe you nothing and you owe them everything." He added: "How can you have good relationships with your players if it's all transactional."
Why do you never acknowledge the players have been paid for decades. I posted a video of Joe Namath saying he was offered more money than his Dad made + a new car every year + a scholarship. That was 1962.

Obviously, Namath was worth more to that coach than JUST THE SCHOLARSHIP. So, it doesn't matter how much the scholarship is worth, some players are worth much more to the program. Just let that go. Yes, the scholarship is valuable but no, it's not as valuable as some players and hasn't been for many, many decades.

Since the players ARE and HAVE BEEN worth more than the scholarship, they're being compensated. You may hate the free market, but that's how it works.

The players have skills. The coaches want those skills. The coaches OFFER....... the players don't demand...... THE COACHES OFFER the scholarship with a quid pro quo of so much in NIL available.

How is this on the players? They're the bad guys because schools OFFER them NIL? C'mon.
 
What I think is really sad is the lives that will be ruined because of money they can't handle.
Lives are ruined by lots of things. Be sure to wrap us all in big plastic bubbles and never, ever, EVER reach for your highest potential and achieve beyond other players.

Sheesh.
 
Anybody noticed how Bama and Georgia are not annually at the tippy top of recruiting classes any longer since NIL? Not to mention this year neither made it to the NC game. The money to player pipeline those 2 programs enjoyed and camouflaged for many years now has been equalized IMO.
 
I don't buy this for a second. If you're good enough to get really big NIL money then you're good enough to get drafted in the 1st round and make HUGE money. There's no comparing Nico's 7 or 8 million NIL to 20 - 40 million for a 1st round draft pick. He would ghost UT in half a second as he should.

And if you're not good enough to project as a 1st round pick you're probably not making much from NIL.
 
The networks and the schools are just playing the fans, because the fans are crazy and love the sport--in the same way that the NFL, MLB and Fifa exploit their crazy fans. They keep adding games, expanding playoffs--making it easier for lesser teams to get into playoffs--amping up the hype---all to suck more and more money out of fans via, mostly, TV ratings and attendance.

I was a student-athlete on scholarship at UT, lived at Gibbs, and we all felt we were the luckiest people on campus--because we were. And it wasn't just the scholarship, there were lots of other perks. No players in any sport had the thought--gee, my free education, meals, housing, kits, girls, concerts, police giving us a pass on various things---is nice but we really should be getting paid too! I think that just started, frankly, with black activists who looked at the black players on the football and basketball teams, saw the money the football program was bringing, and, always on the lookout for injustice (real or, in this case, imagined), started clamoring for cash for players. You NEVER hear the activists talk about the benefit of a free college education and all that goes with it---because free cash is a bigger priority than a free education. One is cash in the pocket while the other isn't--it's a cost that's been covered for you. I don't mean to make this too racial--but I believe this is how the whole pay the players movement got started, and it's gained momentum as the social justice movement has gained momentum. Plus, we're just turning kids who should be focused on academics--because 90+ percent of them are not going to play pro football or basketball--into greedy mercenaries. Bribing kids to sign with your school? Trying to outbid other schools? Tampering--which is rampant. Transfers--rampant and sometimes/often motivated by money? Seriously, this is what we want college athletics to become? The more ridiculous major-college football becomes, the more obvious it becomes that the Ivy League has been right about college athletics all along. It's chosen not to dirty itself too much with all the seedy commercialism that we see now.

The notion that football players should be paid is nothing more than public perception. The sport has been on TV for 50 years--and now suddenly people are saying, "oh, you gotta pay the players." Really? Nothing has changed except the money has gotten bigger. I don't quite understand how a a couple of judges have suddenly concluded that college football should be treated as a business. College football IS a business--but it's not in any way a conventional business. Businesses are private enterprises; most universities are public entities and state institutions---big difference. Simply put, they're schools, first and foremost, even as they must operate in many ways like businesses. Much of the football money is used to subsidize 15 or 20 other sports that lose money--and won't EVER make money. What conventional business pours money into activities that will always lose money? Nobody. The only people getting rich off the current system are the coaches--who are grotesquely overpaid, and the massive buyouts are a complete joke--and network executives. Nobody else is. College football may resemble pro football now--but it's far different. Pro football is a private enterprise: the clubs are private. The players are employees. College football players are full-time students, first and foremost. The players don't make the game of football--the schools do. There is only college football because the schools have invested in everything needed to have a program--including scholarships for the players.

I read yesterday that the Univ. of Arizona's athletic department has serious financial problems and may have to cut sports. I'm guessing that the Univ. of Arizona is not going to be eager--at this time, anyway--to start paying players with money it doesn't have. Don't many/most major-college athletic departments lose money--even as they're making a lot of money from TV-rights deals? Or is that not true? The athletic departments spend huge sums of money. It's going to be very interesting to see how colleges react to this NCAA proposal to establish a division of schools willing to share revenues with players---which is going to cost a LOT of money and likely negatively impact other sports. You think there's been a problem with players not paying much attention to classses and academics in the past? Wait 'till you start giving them thousands of dollars while in college. Good luck managing that.

The problem with college football, as it is with pro sports, is greed. There's no real leadership. Nobody is willing to say, "enough. ""We don't need more games, we don't need a longer season, we don't need another playoff expansion." Because the networks start waving more money in front of them, and they capitulate--and the university presidents are just as bad as the athletic directors.
Don't recall the dance team being athletes and living in Gibbs but maybe they did.
 
What I think is really sad is the lives that will be ruined because of money they can't handle.
so its better to deny them money they have earned because you think they will lose it all or spend it poorly?

I don't think anyone wants their pay determined by a third parties subjective review of what they spend it on.
 
Anybody noticed how Bama and Georgia are not annually at the tippy top of recruiting classes any longer since NIL? Not to mention this year neither made it to the NC game. The money to player pipeline those 2 programs enjoyed and camouflaged for many years now has been equalized IMO.
2024: Georgia 1, Bama 2
2023: Bama 1, UGA 2
2022: Bama 2, UGA 3 (This was TAMU's best class ever class)
2021: Bama 1, UGA 4 (UGA had at least 4 fewer recruits than the schools above them)

they are handling recruiting just fine during the NIL period.
 
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