This is why I trust my own eyes.

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1vol8 said:
No I don’t think they were trusting the stats. I think they were trusting their eyes as to whom they thought fit their system at the time under Urban Meyer. Meyer still would’ve been forced to resign given his “history” and Day still would’ve taken over and changed the offensive approach.
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What, exactly, did Day change? Looks like a very similar offense to me.

The point is what if Day hadn’t gotten ahold of Fields? Ohio State would (likely) be at least a 3-4 loss team and the fans would be damn near rioting with how cocky they are knowing they let Burrow go.
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What if Orgeron hadn't decided to completely overhaul his offense? Would you be here questioning the scouts' assessments of Burrow? Better yet, did you make a prediction regarding Burrow having a breakout year any time before this season started? If you trust your eyes, what did they tell you about Burrow?
 
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#27
1vol8 said:
No I don’t think they were trusting the stats. I think they were trusting their eyes as to whom they thought fit their system at the time under Urban Meyer. Meyer still would’ve been forced to resign given his “history” and Day still would’ve taken over and changed the offensive approach. The point is what if Day hadn’t gotten ahold of Fields? Ohio State would (likely) be at least a 3-4 loss team and the fans would be damn near rioting with how cocky they are knowing they let Burrow go.
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I haven't seen Ohio State play since Day took over. But, Burrow really isn't rugged enough of a runner to succeed in that Urban system.

It is somewhat like saying that Tom Brady wouldn't be a great fit into the Urban Meyers offense.

Joe can run, when he picks his spots and all the DB's / LB's are deep covering receivers,
 
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1vol8 said:
No I don’t think they were trusting the stats. I think they were trusting their eyes as to whom they thought fit their system at the time under Urban Meyer. Meyer still would’ve been forced to resign given his “history” and Day still would’ve taken over and changed the offensive approach. The point is what if Day hadn’t gotten ahold of Fields? Ohio State would (likely) be at least a 3-4 loss team and the fans would be damn near rioting with how cocky they are knowing they let Burrow go.
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Did Day actually get him, or was he just really lucky Fields chose them??
 
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bamawriter said:
What, exactly, did Day change? Looks like a very similar offense to me.



What if Orgeron hadn't decided to completely overhaul his offense? Would you be here questioning the scouts' assessments of Burrow? Better yet, did you make a prediction regarding Burrow having a breakout year any time before this season started? If you trust your eyes, what did they tell you about Burrow?
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Solid
Game Manager
The guy to get you through relatively undamaged while getting a recruit ready.

What he ended up with was icing on the cake.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
I haven't seen Ohio State play since Day took over. But, Burrow really isn't rugged enough of a runner to succeed in that Urban system.

It is somewhat like saying that Tom Brady wouldn't be a great fit into the Urban Meyers offense.

Joe can run, when he picks his spots and all the DB's / LB's are deep covering receivers,
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My point exactly. He didn’t fit Urbans style but he would’ve done great under Day.
 
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1vol8 said:
No I don’t think they were trusting the stats. I think they were trusting their eyes as to whom they thought fit their system at the time under Urban Meyer. Meyer still would’ve been forced to resign given his “history” and Day still would’ve taken over and changed the offensive approach. The point is what if Day hadn’t gotten ahold of Fields? Ohio State would (likely) be at least a 3-4 loss team and the fans would be damn near rioting with how cocky they are knowing they let Burrow go.
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Oh, it sounded like the point was the thread title.

In scouting, use your eyes but you have to know, just like stats, you can't trust them. We're wrong all the time. Everybody. No exceptions. Even Bill Belichick doesn't know who the good pro players are until he sees them play snaps on Sundays.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Oh, it sounded like the point was the thread title.

In scouting, use your eyes but you have to know, just like stats, you can't trust them. We're wrong all the time. Everybody. No exceptions. Even Bill Belichick doesn't know who the good pro players are until he sees them play snaps on Sundays.
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What you bolded in my last comment was the point of THAT comment. The point of trusting your eyes is the point of the thread. Overall I agree, if the services actually used their eyes over school rank and they actually KNEW what they were looking at over who offered, the rankings would look much different every year.
 
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1vol8 said:
What you bolded in my last comment was the point of THAT comment. The point of trusting your eyes is the point of the thread. Overall I agree, if the services actually used their eyes over school rank and they actually KNEW what they were looking at over who offered, the rankings would look much different every year.
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So, you think that the schools don't "use their eyes"?
 
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bamawriter said:
So, you think that the schools don't "use their eyes"?
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Not “schools” but fans. I think it’s clear that “schools” absolutely do. Although it’s a safe bet to say “schools” use their eyes to pick who “fits” the system they want to run.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
I haven't seen Ohio State play since Day took over. But, Burrow really isn't rugged enough of a runner to succeed in that Urban system.

It is somewhat like saying that Tom Brady wouldn't be a great fit into the Urban Meyers offense.

Joe can run, when he picks his spots and all the DB's / LB's are deep covering receivers,
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I've seen Burrow outrun SEC DB's on more than one occasion. Cardale Jones isn't a runner.
 
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