this team has regressed

#26
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feathersax said:
LOTS of UN-doing to accomplish with this LV basketball team. Takes a while to build a great program yet only a short while to demolish it. Holly coached for six years. Giving KJH a pass until the culture can change.
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Until the corrections are made to conditioning, the players desire for the rock with protection and the lazy telegraphed passes change we are going to be a mid level SEC team.

CPHS always had a way of dealing with the above with grueling workouts and practices. CKH knows this but the players don't and they will soon get it.

Our biggest detriments is conditioning and the turnovers which may be a symptom of conditioning.
 
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Place Lady Vol basketball back in highest ranks again!!!! Magical presumptions for amazing results when voiced here are detrimental to future success. UT Vol fans spread far and wide and in particular the USA should be encouraged by Vol Nation to speak and think high. This mighty fan base should be encouraged to boost recruiting efforts and helpful in positive ways rather be disgusted by detrimental sarcasm.
 
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BreatheUT said:
We need to start by cutting the European tour budget. Has been a big waste of time and "money" for years! They look no better than before they go. It's just a school paid vacation.
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These trips are great. They help with team building, long trips are great for that. They also give our kids the opportunity to see places most have not been to. It combines an educational opportunity with basketball. They are student athletes not professionals. A distinction sorely missed by some on this board.
 
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Lucy said:
These trips are great. They help with team building, long trips are great for that. They also give our kids the opportunity to see places most have not been to. It combines an educational opportunity with basketball. They are student athletes not professionals. A distinction sorely missed by some on this board.
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I understand fully what you say. Way too much importance is expected by many as it relates to the dominating play on court aspect of these trips. As far as the playing of the games, I feel it should build the "I know what she is going to do" factor more than the win factor. As to the off court, building bonds is just one small factor to me. Just being able to watch and understand the attitude and personality for the people you are going to "live and die" with in the basketball world on and off court over the next few years is more important as I see it.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Until the corrections are made to conditioning, the players desire for the rock with protection and the lazy telegraphed passes change we are going to be a mid level SEC team.

CPHS always had a way of dealing with the above with grueling workouts and practices. CKH knows this but the players don't and they will soon get it.

Our biggest detriments is conditioning and the turnovers which may be a symptom of conditioning.
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Lets hope they will get it and live with it. Many this day and time are not going to except this type approach. As I and others have stated this is a most important part of recruiting. Getting a prospect with the right mind set.
As to this squad, sh-- or get off the pot...
 
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Darth_Vol said:
And it isn't just based on tonight. Compare the conference games Tennessee played earlier in the season to the rematches in the last couple of weeks and you can only reach one of two conclusions: 1)Other teams have improved significantly more than Tennessee or 2)Tennessee has become significantly worse.

Either way, it's very discouraging and not a good look for Kellie...
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So let’s get this out of the way.......You would find a sweet sixteen not a good look for Kellie.
I said this on a different thread last night. Can you honestly say Rennia, Rae, Jaz, Horston, Rennie and Key have not improved this year? I think they have all made strides. Is it a perfectly diagonal line up? No, but that is generally not how improvement works. They have had periods in the second half of the season where you can start to see the light bulb going on for our young players. They find it and lose it and find it but I think we’ve more recently seen periods of what Kellie is developing. The quality of early season opponents somewhat obscures the growth. I hope we play a little stouter early schedule going forward. I don’t think this team was helped by the constant cup cakes. A few are fine to build confidence but too many desserts are not good for you.
 
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savannahfan said:
I understand fully what you say. Way too much importance is expected by many as it relates to the dominating play on court aspect of these trips. As far as the playing of the games, I feel it should build the "I know what she is going to do" factor more than the win factor. As to the off court, building bonds is just one small factor to me. Just being able to watch and understand the attitude and personality for the people you are going to "live and die" with in the basketball world on and off court over the next few years is more important as I see it.
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Good points! But don’t forget the museums! I’m a museum nerd😆
 
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Darth_Vol said:
And it isn't just based on tonight. Compare the conference games Tennessee played earlier in the season to the rematches in the last couple of weeks and you can only reach one of two conclusions: 1)Other teams have improved significantly more than Tennessee or 2)Tennessee has become significantly worse.

Either way, it's very discouraging and not a good look for Kellie...
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Go find another coach. This one didn't shine in her first year of taking over a broken program. How dare her struggle to get a team that had completely lost the knowledge of how to play a full four quarters. Her supplier of Foo FOO Dust and wand manufacturer should be sued and drawn and quartered. How dare her expect to have more than a season to turn it around. To be honest, I doubt she cares what you think of her look.
 
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Lucy said:
So let’s get this out of the way.......You would find a sweet sixteen not a good look for Kellie.
I said this on a different thread last night. Can you honestly say Rennia, Rae, Jaz, Horston, Rennie and Key have not improved this year? I think they have all made strides. Is it a perfectly diagonal line up? No, but that is generally not how improvement works. They have had periods in the second half of the season where you can start to see the light bulb going on for our young players. They find it and lose it and find it but I think we’ve more recently seen periods of what Kellie is developing. The quality of early season opponents somewhat obscures the growth. I hope we play a little stouter early schedule going forward. I don’t think this team was helped by the constant cup cakes. A few are fine to build confidence but too many desserts are not good for you.
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I think there is definitely individual improvements for the most part, but what is missing is cohesive team play. How to get them to stop looking like a random group of talented players who don't know how to play together? The team lacks leadership on the court, and that needs to be fixed.
 
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The most telling sign for this team and lack of Basketball Skill not height or Athletic ability Skill is that this team was always at there best when Lou was on the floor and quite honestly with her mobility due to playing on one good leg she should have been depth off the bench. That is the roster culture that Kellie inherited. Now saying that some of these Ladies can be fixed and raise their play for next year as some have the gifts you need to be bigtime players. And getting Zaye back hopefully close to full strength our true leader will help. Go Lady Vols. In CHRIST ALONE
 
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BreatheUT said:
Holly coached 8 or 9 years and each year was an underachievement and each year the program got worse. I think she had a bad locker room, bad on court body language and allowed jealously to seep into the program those early years we had never seen before. I remember the way Stricklen used to show frustration toward Speedy and then way Holly used to pull her. We should've gotten to st least one Final 4. Not with Holly. Most of those players during the Holly era never return and the lack of development started to show in years 3 and beyond when the program barely sent players to the WNBA or they couldn't stick.

I think Coach Harper will start to reverse this trend. It will take a little more patience. I guess I'm more frustrated about the past 8 or 9 years than I am about this year.
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Oh just wait, you probably just saw Harper's best team. I hope I am wrong, but fear I am right!
 
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Pride85 said:
Go find another coach. This one didn't shine in her first year of taking over a broken program. How dare her struggle to get a team that had completely lost the knowledge of how to play a full four quarters. Her supplier of Foo FOO Dust and wand manufacturer should be sued and drawn and quartered. How dare her expect to have more than a season to turn it around. To be honest, I doubt she cares what you think of her look.
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We should have found another coach. This one was a failure when hired. No reason to expect she’ll succeed here.
 
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#48
Tennessee has its tallest team ever and virtually no post presence. The game has evolved and reffing has changed as well so that there is no Advantage for being big. All advantage goes to being short and quick.

Tennessee has no one who is short and quick. To be tall and fast does not make one quick. One would have to be conditioned to getting low enough to match the quickness that springs effortlessly from the ITTY-bitty players. The only one who has any possibility of being quick to defend the PGs of other teams on the Tennessee team is Horston. She is ridiculed mercilessly here. Not her fault when she should probably be a small forward or possibly a 2 guard.

Tennessee posts just don’t have the strength AND quickness to truly be effective posts. A fact sadly exacerbated when refs are letting the big get shoved whilst the ref diligently watches each big for the smallest of transgressions. Furthermore, the post issue is complicated when there is no true quickness on Tennessee to pull defenders off the post for an easy opportunity to catch a pass and score. All this leaves Tennessee with horrible post opportunities as they can be easily guarded by shorter quicker opponents.

The perimeter tall players are defended by shorter quicker guards that throw themselves underneath the taller Tennessee player and either get called for nothing or draw a charge. This relegates the y’all Tennessee player to be forced to stand around the 3 point arc with little options.

I think this contributes to Tennessee being the only team in all of division I that has poor 3 point shooting, which is related to only ever shooting at least partly contested 3s. It’s so rare they rare are open that when they do, it’s such a surprise they rush and miss.

KJH has inherited a team that little can be done with. Pray to God she can get some quickness and a true PG. It seems any true PG has been ran off in the Holly era. Ie, Tea Cooper and Annie Hayes.

19 turnovers a game. Small wonder given the extremely handcuffed position Kelly and the team have found themselves in all season long.
 
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Hmm, this regression theme strikes a chord.

There used to be a poster on the SUmmiTT who was always super negative and posting about how the team had regressed and we are talking about CPS teams, during CP3' first two seasons and before during the championship run.

By that posters view, the LVs had been regressing so far that one wondered if the primordial soup would actually show up on the court.

I forgot that posters handle but Darth is that you?
 
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NoBackBoard said:
Horston is worn down after a career high? You sound foolish.
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Didn't Rennia just get some major award last week? Guess the flu symptoms came back...


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