Though He'd Never Admit It,...

#26
#26
tennrich1 said:
Agreed....I am constantly amazed at the real lack of understanding some have....CBP is only with his team LIKE EVERYDAY WORKING ON OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SETS...I think he knows what gives us the best chance of winning...I just sometimes laugh too myself and sometimes I reply...but I'm still AMAZED....High School Flex???? GMAB
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+1 to both you guys! Haters will always be just that.
 
#27
#27
Hayezb said:
Lofton didn't bail us out with 3's last year to get to the Elite 8. He must have been teaching them something.
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more baskets in the paint than this team does. I watched the OSU highlights the other day, and was amazed at all the baskets we scored inside--many off of good passes. This team can't do that, which is why our ncaa future doesn't look too bright....
 
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I guess that, as difficult a time as UT has had finding consistent ball handling from the guards, going to an uptempo game plan this season is not in the cards.
 
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StepCross said:
I think the whole "score early or score late" philosophy is kind of universal in basketball. You either want to get something easy in transition, or you want to make a team guard you long enough that they make a mistake. It's not unique to Pearl, and it's not unique to the flex.

The problem with the flex is we're not giving the other team enough opportunities to make a mistake. JMO.
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Yea, the other team doesn't have to play too much D when we make weak arse flex cuts and pass back and forth 25 feet from the basket.
 
#32
#32
StepCross said:
I think the whole "score early or score late" philosophy is kind of universal in basketball. You either want to get something easy in transition, or you want to make a team guard you long enough that they make a mistake. It's not unique to Pearl, and it's not unique to the flex.

The problem with the flex is we're not giving the other team enough opportunities to make a mistake. JMO.
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I don't buy it. It's either transition, secondary break or get a good shot in the offense, regardless of timing. The "wait to see if someone can make a play" just looks silly.
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#33
#33
BigPapaVol said:
I don't buy it. It's either transition, secondary break or get a good shot in the offense, regardless of timing. The "wait to see if someone can make a play" just looks silly.
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Even if that is his philosophy, with the offense he is running, the defense doesn't even have to work that hard.
 
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JZVOL said:
Even if that is his philosophy, with the offense he is running, the defense doesn't even have to work that hard.
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The offense isn't as much a problem as is the way we run it once we start. You can make room for guys to play 2 man ball or go one on one, but ours mindlessly drone through the cuts and picks without ever trying to find a bucket. Hell, if you sat them all down and told them to tell you how to score out of our flex, even with every defender knowing the O, they would be able to tell you. Screens, set well and used well can't be defended consistently.
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#35
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BigPapaVol said:
The offense isn't as much a problem as is the way we run it once we start. You can make room for guys to play 2 man ball or go one on one, but ours mindlessly drone through the cuts and picks without ever trying to find a bucket. Hell, if you sat them all down and told them to tell you how to score out of our flex, even with every defender knowing the O, they would be able to tell you. Screens, set well and used well can't be defended consistently.
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Good summary, I should have said the way we are running the offense doesn't force the defense to work that.
 
#36
#36
hatvol96 said:
it's becoming readily apparent why Pearl appears to have the halfcourt offense essentially eating 15-20 seconds of the shot clock before attacking the basket. He's trying to shorten the game. Halfcourt defense and offensive rebounding, the two strengths of this team, are magnified in low possession contests.
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Sounds like a good coaching job then. adapt to your strengths, even if it is out of your comfort zone...but, i still have never seen a team that plays soo up/down to their competition and cannot finish a game.we could easily have 5 more wins.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I don't buy it. It's either transition, secondary break or get a good shot in the offense, regardless of timing. The "wait to see if someone can make a play" just looks silly.
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No, I agree with you. You don't score late for the sake of scoring late.

The "score early or score late" bit is a good pithy, memorable phrase, but what people really mean when they say it is "score in transition if it's there, or else be patient and wait for a breakdown and get a good shot; if there is no glaring defensive breakdown, then we'll run a set play when the shot clock gets low and try to manufacture something or score one-on-one."

IMO Tennessee isn't working hard enough and taking the offense seriously enough in that middle ground. "Score early or score late" isn't supposed to mean give the defense a pass through the whole middle of the shot clock, but that's what we're doing about half the time.
 
#38
#38
I have heard Pearl admit it about 20 times this year. He consistently says that the score has to be in the 60's for his team to win, 70's will be tough and games in the 80's are going to be losses.
 
#39
#39
thegeneralneyland said:
I have heard Pearl admit it about 20 times this year. He consistently says that the score has to be in the 60's for his team to win, 70's will be tough and games in the 80's are going to be losses.
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Well, he's just wrong about that. Tennessee is 5-3 when the winning team is 80+, 5-2 in the 70's, and 6-5 below 70.

I'm not sure what he means by it. Probably he means there's a great chance the Vols can't score 80 no matter what, and so if the winner scores in the 80's, then the Vols weren't playing defense and got reamed.

But really, I don't see what use it is to run clock just for it's own sake. After you score (or don't), the other team gets a turn no matter what. Then you do, etc.

We don't want to get all frantic and play so fast we're sloppy with the ball, but beyond that, we just want every possession to count, whether it takes 35 seconds or 10.
 
#40
#40
hatvol96 said:
it's becoming readily apparent why Pearl appears to have the halfcourt offense essentially eating 15-20 seconds of the shot clock before attacking the basket. He's trying to shorten the game. Halfcourt defense and offensive rebounding, the two strengths of this team, are magnified in low possession contests.
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Yep
 
#41
#41
it's laughable how teams are now timing our redundant 30 feet from the basket "reversal" pass for easy steals and layups. another example how the flex is mind numbingly dumb.

the fact that pearl IS WITH THEM EVERYDAY IN PRACTICE, and the SAME PROBLEMS STILL EXIST speaks volumes.

10-5 above 70 points.
6-5 below.

but we're TRYING to slow the game down? lol. what are we Princeton? we are outmatched athletically? oh yeah... mcbee and junior get 25 minutes a game while the 4 stars sit.

i played on run n gun teams in high school and college... the teams that purposefully held the ball to run down the shot clock down were ALWAYS the teams with less athleticism. the good teams just ran their normal stuff.
 
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StepCross said:
Well, he's just wrong about that. Tennessee is 5-3 when the winning team is 80+, 5-2 in the 70's, and 6-5 below 70.

I'm not sure what he means by it. Probably he means there's a great chance the Vols can't score 80 no matter what, and so if the winner scores in the 80's, then the Vols weren't playing defense and got reamed.

But really, I don't see what use it is to run clock just for it's own sake. After you score (or don't), the other team gets a turn no matter what. Then you do, etc.

We don't want to get all frantic and play so fast we're sloppy with the ball, but beyond that, we just want every possession to count, whether it takes 35 seconds or 10.
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agreed. If you can defend and rebound, the final score should be immaterial. I will grant him that the more we're making an effort to score, the more we turn it over. We have to turn the ball over more than anyone else. If we didn't do the interludes, we'd probably head that stat nationally by a huge margin.
 
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JZVOL said:
Even if that is his philosophy, with the offense he is running, the defense doesn't even have to work that hard.
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The defense basically can catch their breath when we're on offense. It's one reason that our depth doesn't give us any advantage.
 
#44
#44
BigPapaVol said:
agreed. If you can defend and rebound, the final score should be immaterial. I will grant him that the more we're making an effort to score, the more we turn it over. We have to turn the ball over more than anyone else. If we didn't do the interludes, we'd probably head that stat nationally by a huge margin.
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right. so he coaches them to stall instead of teaching them how to succeed in a 5 on 5 HC offense. brilliant.
 
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