Thoughts About The End Of the Trump Reign

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MontyPython said:
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Orange defense said:
Court jester? Biden can't control Trump. Trump will win by the courts.
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I do not know how any decent person could support a rascally con man like Trump. He lies more than any poerson I've ever seen or heard about. He is a terrible man and a terrible President. As for the courts, they require cases to be based on law and evidence. Trump's pack of lies are not working in court, like they do in your head. Trump's lawyers already admitted that they are not alleging any fraud. They have no evidence for it, and they are losing in one court after another. What they are trying to do is overturn an election Trump clearly lost, which means overturning our Constitution and our democratic Republic for a dictatorship.
 
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Vol Main said:
I do not know how any decent person could support a rascally con man like Trump. He lies more than any poerson I've ever seen or heard about. He is a terrible man and a terrible President. As for the courts, they require cases to be based on law and evidence. Trump's pack of lies are not working in court, like they do in your head. Trump's lawyers already admitted that they are not alleging any fraud. They have no evidence for it, and they are losing in one court after another. What they are trying to do is overturn an election Trump clearly lost, which means overturning our Constitution and our democratic Republic for a dictatorship.
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An answer to your first question would be that since Ronald Regan all of our Presidents have been scum bags. I’d argue Trump is the least scummy of them. And so would roughly half the country. Until you understand how evil and inept our leadership has been the last 30 years you won’t understand the appeal of Trump.
 
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lukeneyland said:
An answer to your first question would be that since Ronald Regan all of our Presidents have been scum bags. I’d argue Trump is the least scummy of them. And so would roughly half the country. Until you understand how evil and inept our leadership has been the last 30 years you won’t understand the appeal of Trump.
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Regan was a scumbag pos too. Just like most politicians. He was just too weak to actually have any positions by the end. He was simply a senile racist puppet.
 
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k-town_king said:
Regan was a scumbag pos too. Just like most politicians. He was just too weak to actually have any positions by the end. He was simply a senile racist puppet.
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Well at the very end he was crippled by Alzheimer’s. I think he deserves quite a bit of credit for “winning” the Cold War and saving Eastern Europe. Russia is also far better off now that they aren’t ruled by Communist. Regan deserves credit for that as well. People seem to forget that nuclear conflict between the US and Russia was a seemingly plausible reality back then. Regan contributing to the resolution of that conflict can’t be denied.
 
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lukeneyland said:
Well at the very end he was crippled by Alzheimer’s. I think he deserves quite a bit of credit for “winning” the Cold War and saving Eastern Europe. Russia is also far better off now that they aren’t ruled by Communist. Regan deserves credit for that as well. People seem to forget that nuclear conflict between the US and Russia was a seemingly plausible reality back then. Regan contributing to the resolution of that conflict can’t be denied.
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If he wasn't just a puppet that supported racism then he would get some credit. The greatness of his legacy is greatly overstated.
 
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k-town_king said:
If he wasn't just a puppet that supported racism then he would get some credit. The greatness of his legacy is greatly overstated.
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Overstated yes. Puppet no, at least not compared to the last 30 years of leadership. I don’t know where you are getting the racism from. You may even be right, but it’s incredibly hard to tell at the rate that you people through around allegations of racism.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I don’t know, sometimes I see racist everywhere.
I could use it as a crutch to explain failures if I had any like that guy.
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I always thought it was a plus to be Jewish. They look out for their own. Look at the finance industry, movie industry, etc. I admire the way they take care of each other with employment, etc.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I always thought it was a plus to be Jewish. They look out for their own. Look at the finance industry, movie industry, etc. I admire the way they take care of each other with employment, etc.
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yup.
Even a mud blood like me is among the congregation.
 
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lukeneyland said:
An answer to your first question would be that since Ronald Regan all of our Presidents have been scum bags. I’d argue Trump is the least scummy of them. And so would roughly half the country. Until you understand how evil and inept our leadership has been the last 30 years you won’t understand the appeal of Trump.
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Arguing that Trump is "the least scummy of them" seems wrong on its face.
 
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McDad said:
I mentioned them a couple weeks ago. From memory:
1. right to try bill
2. he re signed and expanded Obama's VA bill
3. allowed veterans to go outside VA for care
4. no new foreign conflicts
5. deferred to states during covid

I think there is one more but it escapes me right now.
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About #5: Back in May, Trump claimed that he had the legal authority to override governors on school and church closings. Of course, he doesn't. He only "deferred" to states because he had to. He shouldn't be getting credit for it, because that was never what he wanted to do.
 
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evillawyer said:
Happy? Sad? What will you miss? What will you not miss?

If you hated him (like me), did he have any good qualities? I didn't agree with all of his specific actions on China, but I do think he demonstrated you can be tough on China without the world coming to an end.
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In my opinion, Trump will go down as one of the worst presidents in American history. If for no other reason, because of the divide he has fostered between the American people is horrific.

As for those who will site economics and employment, that data is easily misrepresented.

For example: Obama inherited an economic nightmare in the financial crisis of 2008, this was partly due to actions taken during the Clinton and Bush years. These data often get represented as negatives of the Obama administration. The US debt to GDP ratio under Trump has gone from 104% to 136% (most of that is due to covid and some of it is due to tariffs) these numbers are horrible. Of course, you can blame outside forces for that spike. But then you can look at whether the management of Covid by the Trump administration was well managed and it wasn't. Remember it was going to be gone by Easter of 2020. Still it would be unfair to blame all of that on Trump. I do believe that an average administration would have done a much better job than the Trump administration.

Now the Biden administration will inherit a lot of problems that are a direct result of the Trump administrations mismanagement.

Point is just looking at date to date information doesn't do justice to the evaluation of how well an administration performs for the American people.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
In my opinion, Trump will go down as one of the worst presidents in American history. If for no other reason, because of the divide he has fostered between the American people is horrific.

As for those who will site economics and employment, that data is easily misrepresented.

For example: Obama inherited an economic nightmare in the financial crisis of 2008, this was partly due to actions taken during the Clinton and Bush years. These data often get represented as negatives of the Obama administration. The US debt to GDP ratio under Trump has gone from 104% to 136% (most of that is due to covid and some of it is due to tariffs) these numbers are horrible. Of course, you can blame outside forces for that spike. But then you can look at whether the management of Covid by the Trump administration was well managed and it wasn't. Remember it was going to be gone by Easter of 2020. Still it would be unfair to blame all of that on Trump. I do believe that an average administration would have done a much better job than the Trump administration.

Now the Biden administration will inherit a lot of problems that are a direct result of the Trump administrations mismanagement.

Point is just looking at date to date information doesn't do justice to the evaluation of how well an administration performs for the American people.
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LOL

In 4 years people will be longing for the Trump days.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
In my opinion, Trump will go down as one of the worst presidents in American history. If for no other reason, because of the divide he has fostered between the American people is horrific.

As for those who will site economics and employment, that data is easily misrepresented.

For example: Obama inherited an economic nightmare in the financial crisis of 2008, this was partly due to actions taken during the Clinton and Bush years. These data often get represented as negatives of the Obama administration. The US debt to GDP ratio under Trump has gone from 104% to 136% (most of that is due to covid and some of it is due to tariffs) these numbers are horrible. Of course, you can blame outside forces for that spike. But then you can look at whether the management of Covid by the Trump administration was well managed and it wasn't. Remember it was going to be gone by Easter of 2020. Still it would be unfair to blame all of that on Trump. I do believe that an average administration would have done a much better job than the Trump administration.

Now the Biden administration will inherit a lot of problems that are a direct result of the Trump administrations mismanagement.

Point is just looking at date to date information doesn't do justice to the evaluation of how well an administration performs for the American people.
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So, you are setting up Biden's future failure by blaming Trump now? How quaint. Just like the Kenyan Messiah blamed Bush for all his failures.
 
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1972 Grad said:
So, you are setting up Biden's future failure by blaming Trump now? How quaint. Just like the Kenyan Messiah blamed Bush for all his failures.
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You aren't thinking clearly at all, why don't you reread the post and think about it some more before you respond.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
You aren't thinking clearly at all, why don't you reread the post and think about it some more before you respond.
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Not only did obama/biden not fix things they said jobs were never coming back. Any attempt to refute Trumps success by giving it to obama is referred to his own words. Dude didn’t even try
 
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