Thoughts After Reading The Letter...

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LawVol13

LawVol13

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At this point, the best interest of the school has to be the only thing that Hamilton or anyone with any decision-making influence considers. The "Bruce Pearl's done so much" stuff doesn't work anymore because rewarding what he's done on the court by keeping him now comes at a huge price. They might consist of: major sanctions being taken against our basketball program, an absolute PR nightmare (which is already taken place), and an overall sense that we are willing to place winning at a decent level in basketball above having any integrity.

I've long maintained that if Pearl could get less than 1 year suspension then I wouldn't argue with retaining him. However, I'm quite sure the 'AA isn't going to look fondly on Pearl committing yet another Major Violation in only a matter of days after his public cryfest.

Bottomline, at this point, it seems that an objective analysis would lead any rational person to the conclusion that the cost of keeping Pearl far outweighs the benefits of keeping him. It's truly a sad day for the University of Tennessee, and we can only hope that the people in power do the right thing for the future of the program.
 
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"objective analysis"?


From what I have read, you are not capable of objective analysis, so please don't tell people how to form their opinion.
 
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Yeah, LawVol. It is very apparent that if you aren't supporting Pearl then you have an agenda to push, and also have no way of being objective. Anti-semite.
 
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pl3 said:
"objective analysis"?


From what I have read, you are not capable of objective analysis, so please don't tell people how to form their opinion.
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I'm not going to engage in a back and forth with you about this. I'll just say the 95% probability he's going to be given at least a 1 year show-cause makes the cost of keeping him more than the benefit of keeping him. And, I think rationally, whether you like Pearl or not, he can't survive that.
 
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LawVol13 said:
At this point, the best interest of the school has to be the only thing that Hamilton or anyone with any decision-making influence considers. The "Bruce Pearl's done so much" stuff doesn't work anymore because rewarding what he's done on the court by keeping him now comes at a huge price. They might consist of: major sanctions being taken against our basketball program, an absolute PR nightmare (which is already taken place), and an overall sense that we are willing to place winning at a decent level in basketball above having any integrity.

I've long maintained that if Pearl could get less than 1 year suspension then I wouldn't argue with retaining him. However, I'm quite sure the 'AA isn't going to look fondly on Pearl committing yet another Major Violation in only a matter of days after his public cryfest.

Bottomline, at this point, it seems that an objective analysis would lead any rational person to the conclusion that the cost of keeping Pearl far outweighs the benefits of keeping him. It's truly a sad day for the University of Tennessee, and we can only hope that the people in power do the right thing for the future of the program.
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That is the unfortunate reality; more unfortunately, it appears the nitwits running our program & university seem to have no clue about this.
 
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pl3 said:
"objective analysis"?


From what I have read, you are not capable of objective analysis, so please don't tell people how to form their opinion.
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You wouldn't know an objective analysis if it spooned you at night.

LV13 is one of the better posters on the site, you just simply couldn't be more wrong.
 
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LawVol13 said:
I'm not going to engage in a back and forth with you about this. I'll just say the 95% probability he's going to be given at least a 1 year show-cause makes the cost of keeping him more than the benefit of keeping him. And, I think rationally, whether you like Pearl or not, he can't survive that.
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If he's gone, he's gone and it's 100% his fault. I can't argue if he is fired. People are often fired for being stupid. I just think this whole thing is bs. Coaches around the SE committed worse violations with me back in the day and I was just a partial scholly. I also coached AAU in Memphis for several years in the mid-late 90's. As it's hard for you to be objective because you are in the field of law and are going by the laws/rules, it's also hard for me because I have seen worse and from different sides. This whole ordeal isn't on my top 200 violation radar.
 
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pl3 said:
If he's gone, he's gone and it's 100% his fault. I can't argue if he is fired. People are often fired for being stupid. I just think this whole thing is bs. Coaches around the SE committed worse violations with me back in the day and I was just a partial scholly. I also coached AAU in Memphis for several years in the mid-late 90's. As it's hard for you to be objective because you are in the field of law and are going by the laws/rules, it's also hard for me because I have seen worse and from different sides. This whole ordeal isn't on my top 200 violation radar.
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Why don't you get it? It's not the violation. It's the lying. It's the going out and ignoring an easy rule to remember four days after the teary press conference.
 
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pl3 said:
If he's gone, he's gone and it's 100% his fault. I can't argue if he is fired. People are often fired for being stupid. I just think this whole thing is bs. Coaches around the SE committed worse violations with me back in the day and I was just a partial scholly. I also coached AAU in Memphis for several years in the mid-late 90's. As it's hard for you to be objective because you are in the field of law and are going by the laws/rules, it's also hard for me because I have seen worse and from different sides. This whole ordeal isn't on my top 200 violation radar.
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The original violations weren't...

The continued lying, calling parents to influence their story, and then violating more rules after the cry-fest are. I don't understand how people have such a problem comprehending this.
 
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zjcvols said:
Why don't you get it? It's not the violation. It's the lying. It's the going out and ignoring an easy rule to remember four days after the teary press conference.
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Shush, he was a partial scholarship player. You do not question him.
 
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zjcvols said:
Why don't you get it? It's not the violation. It's the lying. It's the going out and ignoring an easy rule to remember four days after the teary press conference.
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I get it. Most on here have lied about something in the last 24 hrs, yet are all over somebody about a lie. That's what I don't get. Regarding the "bump rule", I need to investigate more. Technically, I don't know if that kid was classified as a jr or sr and exactly when BP saw him. I'm sure someone will be glad to let me know.
 
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Domestic Silence said:
The original violations weren't...

The continued lying, calling parents to influence their story, and then violating more rules after the cry-fest are. I don't understand how people have such a problem comprehending this.
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I haven't seen who he called and what he said to influence them. Fill me in with the facts.
 
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pl3 said:
I get it. Most on here have lied about something in the last 24 hrs, yet are all over somebody about a lie. That's what I don't get. Regarding the "bump rule", I need to investigate more. Technically, I don't know if that kid was classified as a jr or sr and exactly when BP saw him. I'm sure someone will be glad to let me know.
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Jordan Adams is a 2012 recruit.

Actually, you'd be surprised. Some people actually do something wrong and fess up. Everyone lies. Not everyone lies, calls other people to help cover it (specifically teenagers), try and pass that they had a change of heart even though their governing body knew they lied, still be able to make millions and keep their job and then go out and cheat again four days later after going in front of millions of people to say they are sorry, promise to behave, and cry about how they embarrass the university. I doubt volnation has done that.
 
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A bit too many sanctimonious angst for my taste. We've already suffered the worst of it from a PR perspective, though we'll take another hit when the sanctions are announced. But we're nearing the end on that front. As for Pearl, he screwed up and I don't take it lightly. But he's already gotten one pretty serious punishment from the SEC--which by the way I think is total BS. Who else--ever--has been sanctioned by the league prior to the NCAA handing down its punishment? Calhoun certainly wasn't punished by the Big East. It just shows what a D-CK Slive is. Beyond that, a one-year NCAA suspension would be totally excessive, in my view. UT should stick with Pearl at this point, and the coach knows that he's lost all his leeway; any more violations and he's gone.
 
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LawVol13 said:
I'm not going to engage in a back and forth with you about this. I'll just say the 95% probability he's going to be given at least a 1 year show-cause makes the cost of keeping him more than the benefit of keeping him. And, I think rationally, whether you like Pearl or not, he can't survive that.
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I agree with you that if Pearl receives a 1 year show cause then he is and should be gone, but it seems that most in the local media do not agree that he will
 
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Coastypop said:
I agree with you that if Pearl receives a 1 year show cause then he is and should be gone, but it seems that most in the local media do not agree that he will
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Read the ESPN article. Makes it sound almost certain that he'll get one.
 
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pl3 said:
Yeah, I don't know anything. You have a lot to learn lawboy. You want to make it personal? Then pm me. Children belittle others to make their point. Grow up.
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It's not personal. It's a fact. You said yourself you don't even know what Pearl himself admitted to do doing. That's called ignorance.
 
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pl3 said:
That's making me laugh. I'm done. Lawboy will have a different outlook in a few years, and maybe he'll be able to conversate without telling someone they are "completely ignorant".:peace2:
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What's making me laugh is when people, who readily admit that they have no clue about the situation they're vehemently arguing about, are surprised when someone simply observes the truth, that they're ignorant.
 
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pl3 said:
I get it. Most on here have lied about something in the last 24 hrs, yet are all over somebody about a lie. That's what I don't get. Regarding the "bump rule", I need to investigate more. Technically, I don't know if that kid was classified as a jr or sr and exactly when BP saw him. I'm sure someone will be glad to let me know.
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Surely even a casual, habitual liar such as yourself can understand that the stakes ramp way up when you lie to the governing body of your profession.
 
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LawVol13 said:
What's making me laugh is when people, who readily admit that they have no clue about the situation they're vehemently arguing about, are surprised when someone simply observes the truth, that they're ignorant.
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You'll have a different outlook when you're older.

Lying to the state bar association about breaking rules governing your profession, claiming you'll never do it again publicly, then breaking another rule of your profession will suddenly become something you're okay with.
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armchair said:
A bit too many sanctimonious angst for my taste.
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What does it say about your own personal ethics if you think worrying about integrity = meaningless sanctimonious angst?

UT should stick with Pearl at this point, and the coach knows that he's lost all his leeway; any more violations and he's gone.
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This is laughable. HE COMMITTED ANOTHER VIOLATION FOUR DAYS AFTER HE STOOD UP AND CRIED AND SWORE HE'D NEVER DO IT AGAIN. How the hell can you people just swallow this shat?
 
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LawVol13 said:
What's making me laugh is when people, who readily admit that they have no clue about the situation they're vehemently arguing about, are surprised when someone simply observes the truth, that they're ignorant.
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The truth is that you don't know the details of this "new violation" but assume you know wtf you are talking about, then call me ignorant. MH knew about this weeks ago. Compliance cleared it. It will be appealed. Did you know this?
 
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