Thoughts on a potentially new offense?

#26
#26
I'm fine with Tennessee doing whatever, but the 2021 and 2022 offenses (ranked #7 and #1, respectively) were beautiful and impossible not to love. Wide splits, presnap motion, create mismatches, read the defense, and if he's even I'm leavin'. And a whole lot of running in between. I get that some people think it's been solved, but that didn't make it any less beautiful to watch and cheer for. Watching those offenses was like being able to breathe after a decade of allergies. Every breath tasted sweet.

So. We'll see. If they become less explosive I can't say that I'd be thrilled. But we'll see.

Agree those were some immensely fun seasons to watch. 2021 made me love college football again.

What concerns me is that those numbers were put up with misfit parts and guys we pulled off the street a few months before the season for the most part.

As Heupel has gotten in 'his guys" our output has decreased linearly. One of the more frustrating aspects of recent Tennessee football history.
 
#28
#28
Agree those were some immensely fun seasons to watch. 2021 made me love college football again.

What concerns me is that those numbers were put up with misfit parts and guys we pulled off the street a few months before the season for the most part.

As Heupel has gotten in 'his guys" our output has decreased linearly. One of the more frustrating aspects of recent Tennessee football history.
Velus Jones, Cedric Tillman, Jalin Hyatt, Bru, and Hendon Hooker weren’t exactly “misfit toys”. For the most part they were all highly recruited in either HS or the transfer portal and showed their potential before Heupel got here. Our issue in 2020 was the QB, and not the skill positions. We had explosive offensive plays in Pruitt’s last year, the consistency just wasn’t there
 
#29
#29
Analysis come and go. We frequently run condensed sets in short yardages sets.

More likely than the idea that we are about to see a dramatic shift is that we were just going over short yardage scenarios

Where was the report you read? I didn’t noticed that from Fingers (I may have overlooked it)
“One final offensive note before getting to competition results, Tennessee ran a decent bit of pistol formation and had less reps with wide splits compared to its normal offense. I don’t know how much to make of it but it was worth noting”

I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens. The offense Heupel called at OU is a lot different than what he started running at Utah State and has ran since, and I think Jones and Littrell were brought in to add things to the offense. They’re both guys he has a long history with that he trusts but have experience running and calling different offenses than the veer and shoot
 
#30
#30
If the offensive line is solid and deep, we can run any offense Huepel can create. If it has holes, then we will be limited to quick hitting RPOs like last year.
 
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#32
#32
Just be a effective offense, fast or conventional or a blend I don’t care. As long as we move the ball and can score effectively. We will have to be able to run and throw that doesn’t change. I think our defense will be good, especially upfront. Linebackers need to stay healthy and back end has to get better and hopefully a few injured back there are ready by fall. We did have a good year recruiting linebackers but we are thin at experienced back ups at LB. ends and interior D line looks stout. O-Line has to step up, we have some numbers now we need them to be players. We got to be mean and tough up front. GBO!
 
#33
#33
If the offensive line is solid and deep, we can run any offense Huepel can create. If it has holes, then we will be limited to quick hitting RPOs like last year.
The OL held up fine on a lot of passing plays last year. The issue was we only used half the field in a majority of the passing game and the defense had an extra player on the field called the sideline. So if a DB got decent inside leverage on our outside receiver or jammed him at the line it blew the play up. Combine those things with Nico not being able to go through his progressions and it was a recipe for disaster. We need plays that get guys open early that gives him more than 2 options from the boundary hash to the field sideline
 
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#34
#34
I’m all for a potentially new offense. Whatever offense we tried to run in 2023-2024 didn’t seem to work very well with limited creativity and adjustments.
 
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Agree those were some immensely fun seasons to watch. 2021 made me love college football again.

What concerns me is that those numbers were put up with misfit parts and guys we pulled off the street a few months before the season for the most part.

As Heupel has gotten in 'his guys" our output has decreased linearly. One of the more frustrating aspects of recent Tennessee football history.

I agree about being concerned, although I don't know if they were misfit parts as much as they were some pretty good pieces recruited by Pruitt with a few key transfers brought in. I think what made 2021 and 2022 work was Hendon Hooker, and to a big extent, Jalin Hyatt. Hooker being a fifth year guy who could read defenses and make pre-snap decisions really was the straw that stirred the drink. Hyatt made it easy for him, but I think Hooker would have done just as well if he'd played in 2023 without Hyatt - not that he had any eligibility, I'm just saying I think Hooker would have found the open guys.

And there were open guys. The thing I will say in defense of the system was that we saw plenty - plenty - of wide open receivers in 2023. There were a number of games where we had the mismatches we wanted but didn't get the ball out on time. For whatever reason, be it Milton, or offensive line protection, or defenses changing how they defended Tennessee's splits, Tennessee couldn't get the ball to them. But they were open, and they were open quite a bit. 2024, for whatever reason, we didn't see anywhere near as much pre-snap motion. I have no idea why they went away from that. I guess personnel or scheming for Iamaleava? I guess?

But definitely 2021 was what did it for me as well. The feeling I had going into 2022, knowing what we had on offense, was the best feeling I've had since 2001's team (which had no damn business on Earth losing to Matt Mauck in the SECCG).
 
#37
#37
I’m all for a potentially new offense. Whatever offense we tried to run in 2023-2024 didn’t seem to work very well with limited creativity and adjustments.
The passing game did not work as well as many of us hoped it would but we had the best RB in the SEC last season. Hard to say that "didn't work very well."
 
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#38
#38
Pistol favors Nico but I feel like it might hurt our run game. If coach can pull this off and make it work, we better pay CJH the Bama/Oregon/OSU salary.
 
#39
#39
The passing game did not work as well as many of us hoped it would but we had the best RB in the SEC last season. Hard to say that "didn't work very well."
It's also year 3 and major adjustments were made in the SEC to compensate for the influx of the Leach-style offense.
 
#40
#40
The passing game did not work as well as many of us hoped it would but we had the best RB in the SEC last season. Hard to say that "didn't work very well."
No doubt Sampson had a great year and the overall body of work for the run game looked good. However, timing is everything and it seemed like we couldn’t score when we absolutely had to, especially in the red zone. We sputtered often, and barely hung on for many of our SEC games and relied of the defense to bail us out. We also seemed to insist of ramming it up the middle when it clearly wasn’t there or continued to throw when the run game was working. A competent offense doesn’t only score 14 against Arkansas. Just seemed like the overall offensive strategy was off.
 
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#41
#41
Pistol favors Nico but I feel like it might hurt our run game. If coach can pull this off and make it work, we better pay CJH the Bama/Oregon/OSU salary.
It doesn’t mean we’re switching to the pistol exclusively. I think it’s a sign of Heupel making some necessary tweaks to give us balance though. I know on paper we’re a balanced offense with our pass/run ratio, but our intermediate passing game has been almost non existent since Hooker left
 
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